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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,969
    igotid88 wrote:

    Forget the avg. salary. Totally meaningless. It's about the total contract. $200 million and 10 years have never worked in a single contract. Yankess smart not to go there.

    How does Felix Hernandez fell about his hometown discount now?

    A-Rod's first 10 year $250 million contract worked

    Not really he opted out after 7 only one that you could say actually worked was DJ 10/189


    In terms of production, yes. And the opt out could have benefited them of they didn't re-sign
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  • igotid88 wrote:
    igotid88 wrote:
    A-Rod's first 10 year $250 million contract worked

    Not really he opted out after 7 only one that you could say actually worked was DJ 10/189


    In terms of production, yes. And the opt out could have benefited them of they didn't re-sign

    But, would even the first 7 years have worked out if he didn't use steroids?

    I think in this post-roids era 10 year deals are a utter and complete disaster unless you are on the brink of winning a championship in the next 2 years.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,839
    This is what I am going to try and tell myself

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/moving-o ... nson-cano/
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,969

    But, would even the first 7 years have worked out if he didn't use steroids?

    I think in this post-roids era 10 year deals are a utter and complete disaster unless you are on the brink of winning a championship in the next 2 years.


    Assuming he used all those years other than the 3. Even without them i believe he would have put up similar numbers. Well close to them.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,155
    :shock: :shock: :shock:

    I can't fathom this deal. altho a good player, cano has absolutely no power to put asses in the seats.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,825
    Beltran 3/$45M>Not much of a surprise. You knew the Yanks would sign him, Choo or Cruz. But, would they sign one of the others too?

    How about a pitcher? or 2?
  • cutz wrote:
    Beltran 3/$45M>Not much of a surprise. You knew the Yanks would sign him, Choo or Cruz. But, would they sign one of the others too?

    How about a pitcher? or 2?

    So, Ellsbury, McCann, Beltran and Kuroda for $299 million or Cano for $240 mill and 3+ more years commitmment?

    Props to Cashman. Lessons learned. Job well done. Will miss Cano, but Yankees are clearly better off in any way you look at this.
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  • cutz wrote:
    Beltran 3/$45M>Not much of a surprise. You knew the Yanks would sign him, Choo or Cruz. But, would they sign one of the others too?

    How about a pitcher? or 2?

    Sweet as for the pitching we just resigned Kuroda guess they're waiting to see if Tanaka gets posted before going after whats out there.
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    How's everyone doing over here?
    :lol::lol:
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  • igotid88 wrote:

    But, would even the first 7 years have worked out if he didn't use steroids?

    I think in this post-roids era 10 year deals are a utter and complete disaster unless you are on the brink of winning a championship in the next 2 years.


    Assuming he used all those years other than the 3. Even without them i believe he would have put up similar numbers. Well close to them.

    Not just that, but he spent 3 years In last place in Texas and they paid the Yankees 10 mill a year to take hi. Off their hands. So no way can you say that contract was a success..agree that jeter is the only 10 year deal that has ever worked. Giving a guy over 30 a ten year deal is dumb
  • So does Beltran signing mean Gardner will be traded? Was really looking forward to Gardner and ellsbury wreaking havoc on the bases and playing the best outfield in baseball. Now have ellsbury Beltran Gardner Soriano I chirp and wells under contract. Wells will probably just be released
  • So does Beltran signing mean Gardner will be traded? Was really looking forward to Gardner and ellsbury wreaking havoc on the bases and playing the best outfield in baseball. Now have ellsbury Beltran Gardner Soriano I chirp and wells under contract. Wells will probably just be released

    He will play Vs right handers. Soriano will be primary DH with some of Of vs lefties (also some to let Beltran and mccann get some dh) to let Jeter get some time at dh.

    You also forgot ichiro. Wells will be waived.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,969
    Gardner can probably get you a better deal. But I don't want to give up all that speed. Gardner and Ellsbury at the top, or 9 and 1. Or Ichiro 9, Garder 1, and Ellsbury 2.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,839
    What a fucking offseason.

    Don't like 3 years for Beltran at all, but not like it's gonna cripple them. Beltran is finally a Yankee. It was inevitable. Three free agencies in the making.

    This lineup is not bad. Going to be a weird team but turn your eyes to the staff now
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Now for pitching.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,155
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Going to be a weird team

    it's always a weird team :shh:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,969
    Well Kuroda's back
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,969
    And Cashman's getting calls for Gardner
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  • igotid88 wrote:
    And Cashman's getting calls for Gardner

    That would be awesome if they could get some sucker to give something of value for him. Even a #4 starter would be awesome.
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  • gregkitefangregkitefan Posts: 1,115
    igotid88 wrote:
    And Cashman's getting calls for Gardner

    That would be awesome if they could get some sucker to give something of value for him. Even a #4 starter would be awesome.

    134 - 577 - 92 - 172 - 31 - 8 - 9 - 53 - 246 - 47 - 92 - 52 - .298 - .355 - .426 - .781 - Jacoby - 153 mil
    145 - 539 - 81 - 147 - 33 - 10 - 8 - 52 - 224 - 52 - 127 - 24 - .273 - .344 - .416 - .759 - Gardner - 2.8 mil

    Wow anyone you slice it this these numbers look VERY similar.
    I realy wonder who the real sucker is???
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  • igotid88 wrote:
    And Cashman's getting calls for Gardner

    That would be awesome if they could get some sucker to give something of value for him. Even a #4 starter would be awesome.

    134 - 577 - 92 - 172 - 31 - 8 - 9 - 53 - 246 - 47 - 92 - 52 - .298 - .355 - .426 - .781 - Jacoby - 153 mil
    145 - 539 - 81 - 147 - 33 - 10 - 8 - 52 - 224 - 52 - 127 - 24 - .273 - .344 - .416 - .759 - Gardner - 2.8 mil

    Wow anyone you slice it this these numbers look VERY similar.
    I realy wonder who the real sucker is???

    172 -.298 -52/56 (you forgot to put in 9 CS for gardy)
    147 -.273 (20 pts above career) - 24/33 and going in the wrong direction.

    Not going to argue stats. Ellsburys the better player by a huge margin. And one lefty coming to the friendliest RF porch and the other leaving (in theory).

    Don't get me wrong, they will use your line up to convince someone they are equal in hopes of robbing a #3 or 4 starter. I love that they are saying they're not looking to trade him too. I hope there's a gm out there thinking the way you do.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,839
    The Yankees have combined for $299 million over 16 years for McCann, ellsbury, Kuroda and Beltran while cano and granderson have gotten $300 million and 14 years
  • So does Beltran signing mean Gardner will be traded? Was really looking forward to Gardner and ellsbury wreaking havoc on the bases and playing the best outfield in baseball. Now have ellsbury Beltran Gardner Soriano I chirp and wells under contract. Wells will probably just be released

    He will play Vs right handers. Soriano will be primary DH with some of Of vs lefties (also some to let Beltran and mccann get some dh) to let Jeter get some time at dh.

    You also forgot ichiro. Wells will be waived.

    Haha. Didn't forget him. My phone just auto corrected to I Chirp.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,839
    Nice to see Torre get into the Hall.
  • I wonder what happens if the Mariners still have a losing record a few years into the deal for Cano

    http://gothamhub.com/2013/12/mariners-s ... -contract/
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,969
    Forget about getting Roy Halladay
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  • Seattle management gets destroyed today by former manager Eric eps edge and a few other former management guys
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,839
    Seattle management gets destroyed today by former manager Eric eps edge and a few other former management guys

    That was a pretty great article. Have fun with that, Robbie.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,839
    “Just a player like that, putting on the pinstripes, and being able to play your whole career in New York means something – to me, obviously,” Sabathia said after an event showcasing his wife Amber’s CCandy clothing line at The Mall at Short Hills. “It didn’t mean that much to him. It’s a difficult choice being a free agent. And he made a tough choice. I know he’s happy with his decision, and his family’s happy. So that’s good.”
  • I wonder what happens if the Mariners still have a losing record a few years into the deal for Cano

    http://gothamhub.com/2013/12/mariners-s ... -contract/

    Andy Pettitte without the ability to choose his own destination.
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