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  • Cliffy6745 wrote:
    actually, never mind...that was stupid what I said. I dont blame the Yankees for not wanting another ARod mistake. But I gotta wonder how much this terrible Ellsbury contract ruined their chances.

    Zero, the Yankees stated from the beginning they weren't going above $200 or even close to that.

    Well, they'll have fun filling those seats this year. Is Youklis coming back? :lol:
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    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    actually, never mind...that was stupid what I said. I dont blame the Yankees for not wanting another ARod mistake. But I gotta wonder how much this terrible Ellsbury contract ruined their chances.

    Zero, the Yankees stated from the beginning they weren't going above $200 or even close to that.

    Well, they'll have fun filling those seats this year. Is Youklis coming back? :lol:

    We saw this year that Cano doesn't put players in the seat alone. They need to win. They are going to have to sign a few guys. Infante should be a Yankee tomorrow.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,520
    as a non-Yankees fan my question is isn't Cano at $24 million better than Ellsbury at $21 million per year? cano is a better player and Ellsbury is often hurt. from the outside sure seems like they chose the wrong guy.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,839
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    pjhawks wrote:
    as a non-Yankees fan my question is isn't Cano at $24 million better than Ellsbury at $21 million per year? cano is a better player and Ellsbury is often hurt. from the outside sure seems like they chose the wrong guy.

    Obviously not, but the Yankees aren't doing 10 year deals anymore. It wasn't one or the other. They weren't signing Cano to a 10 year contract regardless of Ellsbury.
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  • Cliffy6745 wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    as a non-Yankees fan my question is isn't Cano at $24 million better than Ellsbury at $21 million per year? cano is a better player and Ellsbury is often hurt. from the outside sure seems like they chose the wrong guy.

    Obviously not, but the Yankees aren't doing 10 year deals anymore. It wasn't one or the other. They weren't signing Cano to a 10 year contract regardless of Ellsbury.

    I bet they would go 10 for Trout or Harper :corn:
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,839
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    as a non-Yankees fan my question is isn't Cano at $24 million better than Ellsbury at $21 million per year? cano is a better player and Ellsbury is often hurt. from the outside sure seems like they chose the wrong guy.

    Obviously not, but the Yankees aren't doing 10 year deals anymore. It wasn't one or the other. They weren't signing Cano to a 10 year contract regardless of Ellsbury.

    I bet they would go 10 for Trout or Harper :corn:

    Well yeah, but they are going to be 25/26 when they hit free agency
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,520
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    as a non-Yankees fan my question is isn't Cano at $24 million better than Ellsbury at $21 million per year? cano is a better player and Ellsbury is often hurt. from the outside sure seems like they chose the wrong guy.

    Obviously not, but the Yankees aren't doing 10 year deals anymore. It wasn't one or the other. They weren't signing Cano to a 10 year contract regardless of Ellsbury.

    I agree 10 year contracts are crazy but it's not like they went short on Ellsbury either. he got 7 with an option. 7 for Ellsbury is way too long as well. from the outside I think 10 of Cano is a lot better than 7 for Ellsbury. will be interesting to see where the Yanks go next.
  • rival.rival. Posts: 7,775
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    #Mariners and Cano agree. $240 million/10 years. Physical next monday in Seattle

    have fun in obscurity.

    and thank you for chasing a paycheck and strengthen the argument that there is zero loyalty and being "homegrown" means jack shit.
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,969
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,969
    looks like the Yankees are going to be a hit and run team next year. Tex will be the only hr threat. At least until Alexcomes back
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  • igotid88 wrote:
    looks like the Yankees are going to be a hit and run team next year. Tex will be the only hr threat. At least until Alexcomes back

    We'll be fine Sori and B Mac can bring the lumber both will have more than cano who will be lucky to hit 20 hr playing 80 games in that park.
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  • gregkitefangregkitefan Posts: 1,115
    Gosh this is has been a great offseason as a Red Sox fan.
    First the Yanks grossly overpay for Jacoby and now this.
    Good stuff.
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  • pjhawks wrote:
    as a non-Yankees fan my question is isn't Cano at $24 million better than Ellsbury at $21 million per year? cano is a better player and Ellsbury is often hurt. from the outside sure seems like they chose the wrong guy.

    Forget the avg. salary. Totally meaningless. It's about the total contract. $200 million and 10 years have never worked in a single contract. Yankess smart not to go there.

    How does Felix Hernandez fell about his hometown discount now?
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,969
    pjhawks wrote:
    as a non-Yankees fan my question is isn't Cano at $24 million better than Ellsbury at $21 million per year? cano is a better player and Ellsbury is often hurt. from the outside sure seems like they chose the wrong guy.

    Forget the avg. salary. Totally meaningless. It's about the total contract. $200 million and 10 years have never worked in a single contract. Yankess smart not to go there.

    How does Felix Hernandez fell about his hometown discount now?

    A-Rod's first 10 year $250 million contract worked
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  • igotid88 wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    as a non-Yankees fan my question is isn't Cano at $24 million better than Ellsbury at $21 million per year? cano is a better player and Ellsbury is often hurt. from the outside sure seems like they chose the wrong guy.

    Forget the avg. salary. Totally meaningless. It's about the total contract. $200 million and 10 years have never worked in a single contract. Yankess smart not to go there.

    How does Felix Hernandez fell about his hometown discount now?

    A-Rod's first 10 year $250 million contract worked

    Not really he opted out after 7 only one that you could say actually worked was DJ 10/189
  • gregkitefangregkitefan Posts: 1,115
    rival. wrote:
    Enrique Rojas/ESPN ‏@Enrique_Rojas1 3m
    #Mariners and Cano agree. $240 million/10 years. Physical next monday in Seattle

    have fun in obscurity.

    and thank you for chasing a paycheck and strengthen the argument that there is zero loyalty and being "homegrown" means jack shit.


    Dustin Pedroia signed both of his extensions for way below market value.
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  • rival. wrote:
    Enrique Rojas/ESPN ‏@Enrique_Rojas1 3m
    #Mariners and Cano agree. $240 million/10 years. Physical next monday in Seattle

    have fun in obscurity.

    and thank you for chasing a paycheck and strengthen the argument that there is zero loyalty and being "homegrown" means jack shit.


    Dustin Pedroia signed both of his extensions for way below market value.

    Thank you for adding some hope to this discussion gregkitefan!
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,839
    Sooo, Arod getting off would be best case scenario at this point, huh?

    Before not having him would free up salary for other people. Now I feel like they need his bat, whatever that is.
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  • Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Sooo, Arod getting off would be best case scenario at this point, huh?

    Before not having him would free up salary for other people. Now I feel like they need his bat, whatever that is.

    Always was. The more I look at this, though is they knew the Cano think was happening and that resulted in the Ellsbury signing. It's not an exact trade off obviously, but I'm guessing while they wouldn't have minded Cano coming back at that point, they signed the Ellsbury contract assuming he wasn't.

    As for A-Rod - Always helps to have another bat.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,839
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Sooo, Arod getting off would be best case scenario at this point, huh?

    Before not having him would free up salary for other people. Now I feel like they need his bat, whatever that is.

    Always was. The more I look at this, though is they knew the Cano think was happening and that resulted in the Ellsbury signing. It's not an exact trade off obviously, but I'm guessing while they wouldn't have minded Cano coming back at that point, they signed the Ellsbury contract assuming he wasn't.

    As for A-Rod - Always helps to have another bat.

    Yeah, I'd think they had a pretty good idea this was going to happen.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,839
    How's everyone doing over here?

    :lol:

    This is what it takes to bring you out of the woodwork?

    Not thrilled, to say the least. Screw the Mariners.
  • Yeah, I've been outta the game for a while. Complete coincidence Cliffy, I swear.
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  • Hey cheer up, you got a new 30 year old CF for only $150 million!
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,839
    Yeah, I've been outta the game for a while. Complete coincidence Cliffy, I swear.

    Yeah, yeah. Hope things are going well. In your hood almost weekly these days. Well, Weston at least. Logan is like my second home.
  • Cliffy6745 wrote:

    Great article. And if Cano is of any value he will not be a Marnier past year 4 because of all the reasons he stated about the current state of the team.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
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