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  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    all these haters with the big man :lol:



    old man oswalt coming to town cliffy???


    ughhhhhhhhhh hope not
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,358
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    old man oswalt coming to town cliffy???

    ughhhhhhhhhh hope not

    He would get slaughtered by that division. Good riddance to that guy. :twisted: Maybe he can go work for FEMA.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    all these haters with the big man :lol:



    old man oswalt coming to town cliffy???


    ughhhhhhhhhh hope not

    I doubt it but you never know. I think he'll get a multi year deal somewhere and it sure as hell better not be from the Yankees.

    Darvish or a trade or possibly Buherle (don't see him leaving though). Stay the fuck away from Wilson.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    beauty of this is we will see what CC does next year ... not 4 years from now ... next year ... i don't think he can keep his era below 3.50 ...
  • neilybabes86
    neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    old man oswalt coming to town cliffy???

    ughhhhhhhhhh hope not

    He would get slaughtered by that division. Good riddance to that guy. :twisted: Maybe he can go work for FEMA.


    my how quick the love vanished :lol:
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    polaris_x wrote:
    beauty of this is we will see what CC does next year ... not 4 years from now ... next year ... i don't think he can keep his era below 3.50 ...

    Yeah, I mean, he only had the second lowest ERA of his career this year.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,358
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    old man oswalt coming to town cliffy???

    ughhhhhhhhhh hope not

    He would get slaughtered by that division. Good riddance to that guy. :twisted: Maybe he can go work for FEMA.

    my how quick the love vanished :lol:

    Oswalt was never loved (in Philly at least). He was on the team, so you root for him to win, but he wasn't a great fit for the city. And then he hurt his back operating heavy machinery in Mississippi and blamed something or someone else every time he lost.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

    Oswalt was never loved (in Philly at least). He was on the team, so you root for him to win, but he wasn't a great fit for the city. And then he hurt his back operating heavy machinery in Mississippi and blamed something or someone else every time he lost.

    Sounds like he would last about 3.2 seconds with the New York media.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    beauty of this is we will see what CC does next year ... not 4 years from now ... next year ... i don't think he can keep his era below 3.50 ...

    Yeah, I mean, he only had the second lowest ERA of his career this year.

    ya ... but what was his era since august? ... i'm gonna say north of 4 ... that would be the last 2.5 months if we include the playoffs ...

    edit: added "months"
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    polaris_x wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    beauty of this is we will see what CC does next year ... not 4 years from now ... next year ... i don't think he can keep his era below 3.50 ...

    Yeah, I mean, he only had the second lowest ERA of his career this year.

    ya ... but what was his era since august? ... i'm gonna say north of 4 ... that would be the last 2.5 if we include the playoffs ...

    The guy had a bad 6 weeks, it happens in baseball. He gained weight and they went with a 6 man rotation. I think he'll be fine.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,358
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

    Oswalt was never loved (in Philly at least). He was on the team, so you root for him to win, but he wasn't a great fit for the city. And then he hurt his back operating heavy machinery in Mississippi and blamed something or someone else every time he lost.

    Sounds like he would last about 3.2 seconds with the New York media.

    I don't know why the fans & media didn't get on him more here. Especially considering the treatment of Hamels. :?
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The guy had a bad 6 weeks, it happens in baseball. He gained weight and they went with a 6 man rotation. I think he'll be fine.

    6 weeks is like a quarter of the season ... plus, i'm talking about the last 10 weeks - when it matters most ...
  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    I don't like the idea of the Yankees scouting another Japanese pitcher. Look what happened with Hideki Irabu and Kei Igawa.
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  • Monster Rain
    Monster Rain Posts: 1,415
    That's insane. Other than Halladay, what pitcher has been as consistently among the best pitchers in the league for each of the last 5 seasons besides CC? Not Lee, not Hamels, not even guys like Verlander, Felix Hernandez, or Weaver. Not that those guys aren't good, but they've all had at least one down season in that time.

    As for Lee's postseason legend, I'm not saying his legend is overblown based on 1 game this year. He was also pretty awful in the World Series last year (0-2, 6.94 ERA). He also only gave up 2 walks and had 9 K's in the game this year in which you say he was "squeezed." That's his 3rd straight bad start in the postseason. I'm not saying he's a terrible postseason pitcher, but I expect more out of a guy who's annointed a postseason deity by the media than 0-3 with a 7.13 ERA. If you want to say that he pitched well in that game, fine (Lee said after the game that he didn't pitch well, by the way), but if we're making excuses for players then CC's 2008 postseason stats need to be tossed out the same way Lee's 2011 game is because Milwaukee used him on short rest and he threw 7 complete games for them down the stretch (he led the NL in Complete Games and Shutouts in his half-season in the league).
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Monster Rain wrote:
    He's probably not the best pitcher in baseball, but he's in the top 2-4.

    Don't be ridiculous. He would be 4th in the Phillies' rotation. And he's come up fairly small in a large sample of playoff starts.

    And don't give me shit about Lee's playoff game this year. He was squeezed by the umpire (after Larussa's bitch fest) and had unlucky BABIP/poor fielding. Cliffy likes his sabermetrics and should understand that.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,358
    Monster Rain wrote:
    That's insane. Other than Halladay, what pitcher has been as consistently among the best pitchers in the league for each of the last 5 seasons besides CC? Not Lee, not Hamels, not even guys like Verlander, Felix Hernandez, or Weaver. Not that those guys aren't good, but they've all had at least one down season in that time.

    As for Lee's postseason legend, I'm not saying his legend is overblown based on 1 game this year. He was also pretty awful in the World Series last year (0-2, 6.94 ERA). He also only gave up 2 walks and had 9 K's in the game this year in which you say he was "squeezed." That's his 3rd straight bad start in the postseason. I'm not saying he's a terrible postseason pitcher, but I expect more out of a guy who's annointed a postseason deity by the media than 0-3 with a 7.13 ERA. If you want to say that he pitched well in that game, fine (Lee said after the game that he didn't pitch well, by the way), but if we're making excuses for players then CC's 2008 postseason stats need to be tossed out the same way Lee's 2011 game is because Milwaukee used him on short rest and he threw 7 complete games for them down the stretch (he led the NL in Complete Games and Shutouts in his half-season in the league).

    Even after 3 poor starts for Lee, he still has a 2.52 ERA in the playoffs. Of course he wouldn't make excuses after that game - he's not that type.

    Sabathia is at 4.81 in the playoffs, which is just awful any way you slice it. It's in a sample of about half a regular season, which is pretty significant. Sorry - I, and pretty much everyone else who doesn't root for the Yankees, just don't think he's a great pitcher.
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  • Monster Rain
    Monster Rain Posts: 1,415
    He had an ERA of 4.68 in August and 3.08 in September. His September was hardly a disaster by any stretch of the imagination.
    polaris_x wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    beauty of this is we will see what CC does next year ... not 4 years from now ... next year ... i don't think he can keep his era below 3.50 ...

    Yeah, I mean, he only had the second lowest ERA of his career this year.

    ya ... but what was his era since august? ... i'm gonna say north of 4 ... that would be the last 2.5 months if we include the playoffs ...

    edit: added "months"
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    old man oswalt coming to town cliffy???

    ughhhhhhhhhh hope not

    He would get slaughtered by that division. Good riddance to that guy. :twisted: Maybe he can go work for FEMA.


    my how quick the love vanished :lol:


    you guys love picking up old phillies pitchers. i hear jamie moyer looked good in work out recently. :lol:
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Monster Rain wrote:
    He had an ERA of 4.68 in August and 3.08 in September. His September was hardly a disaster by any stretch of the imagination.

    not saying it is ... it's just he's getting paid as the best pitcher in baseball ...

    i'd love to have CC on the jays but if AA paid that much for him, i would say he wasn't worth it ... it's as simple as that ...
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,273
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

    Even after 3 poor starts for Lee, he still has a 2.52 ERA in the playoffs. Of course he wouldn't make excuses after that game - he's not that type.
    everything was going so good until the giants ruined his confidence :lol:
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Sorry - I, and pretty much everyone else who doesn't root for the Yankees, just don't think he's a great pitcher.

    This is just complete and utter bullshit. He is not Roy Halladay but he is one of the best pitchers in the game, playoff performance or not. He has pitched over 700 innings to an ERA of 3.18 over the past 3 years in the AL East. Only Verlander, Weaver & Felix have a better ERA while pitching all three years in the AL and close to that many innings.

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