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Cliffy6745

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

This fucking blows

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/ ... lpen-help/

Dude has flown through the minors, he was on Low A when they traded him and was thought to be a few years away. Facking a.

that's the thing with this whole prospect stuff, you just don't know. you don't know at the time you trade them and you don't know even after a few years in the majors.

Agreed, the guy could still blow up,just sucks seeing it, especially after how worthless Javy was. I remember at the time the kid was a big time prospect, just a long long ways away from the big leagues, I guess not.

xavier mcdaniel

Cliffy6745 wrote:

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

This fucking blows

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/ ... lpen-help/

Dude has flown through the minors, he was on Low A when they traded him and was thought to be a few years away. Facking a.

that's the thing with this whole prospect stuff, you just don't know. you don't know at the time you trade them and you don't know even after a few years in the majors.

Agreed, the guy could still blow up,just sucks seeing it, especially after how worthless Javy was. I remember at the time the kid was a big time prospect, just a long long ways away from the big leagues, I guess not.

To be honest, I don't remember him as a Big Time prospect, especially since he just finished a season of short season ball.

Cliffy6745

xavier mcdaniel wrote:

To be honest, I don't remember him as a Big Time prospect, especially since he just finished a season of short season ball.

I believe he was a top 100 prospect with somewhat of an injury history, for him to be that young and in the top 100 with injuries, I kind of see that as a legit prospect. Maybe not big time but definitely promising. Oh well. Definitely can't predict these things and I thought Javy was goign to be a huge help last year.

Austin Jackson on the other hand...not doing so well.

Cliffy6745

This is awesome

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/artic ... o.twitter1)

Armando Benitez vs. Tino Martinez and the Yankees


At 28-9, the 1998 Yankees had already shown that they were in the business of kicking ass and taking names when the Orioles came to town having lost five straight games to push them under .500. The O's were on track to snap their streak with a 5-3 lead in the eighth inning when the Yankees drew two walks while making two outs against tiring O's starter Sidney Ponson and reliever Alan Mills. A Paul O'Neill single off Norm Charlton cut the lead to 5-4 when Benitez, the Orioles' imposing but immature closer, was summoned for a four-out save. Instead, he served up a three-run homer to Bernie Williams to give the Yankees a 7-5 lead, then blatantly plunked Tino Martinez between the shoulder blades with a 90-something MPH fastball on his next pitch. "That was a real cheap shot," said Yankees broadcaster Jim Kaat.

Martinez jawed at Benitez on the way down to first base, and the 6-foot-4 reliever dropped his glove. Both benches and bullpens emptied, and things escalated when Yankees' lefty reliever Graeme Lloyd—a 6-foot-8 Australian native my friends and I called "The Big Dingo"—came charging out of the bullpen and grabbed Benitez's chin before throwing a few wild punches with fellow Yankee reliever Jeff Nelson joining the fray. Benitez connected on a blow to the back of Lloyd's neck as he retreated from the mound into foul territory. As he neared the dugout, he squared off with Scott Brosius, who threw no punches but captured his attention while Darryl Strawberry rolled up behind and connected on a sucker punch to Benitez's head before pushing him into the Oriole dugout. Strawberry was restrained by multiple Orioles at the edge of the dugout, but amazingly enough, the two would square off again minutes later after Mills punched Strawberry while an irate Martinez kept making his way towards Benitez. The second time, Stawberry's blow was more glancing, and his momentum carried him into the dugout where Eddie Murray and Cal Ripken tried to calm him down. Ultimately, it took around 15 minutes before order was restored and play resumed.

"This is like one of those hockey brawls where the umpires have to figure out who stays and who goes," said Yankees broadcaster (and former Oriole) Ken Singleton. "To a man, the Orioles refused to muster even feigned support for Benitez," wrote Sports Illustrated's Tom Verducci. "The action of 'I'll hurt you if I can't beat you' totally misrepresents the Baltimore Orioles' tradition of good play and sportsmanship," said manager Ray Miller in apologizing to the Yankees. Benitez drew an eight-game suspension while Strawberry and Lloyd (three games) and Mills and Nelson (two games) received suspensions as well. The Yankees went on to win 114 regular season games and the World Series while the Orioles were swept by the Yankees en route to a nine-game losing streak. They haven't had a winning season since. —Jay Jaffe

Edit: Just to add, I was at the first game that Benitez played in for the Yankees. By far the loudest I have ever heard Yankees fans boo a Yankee, although Farnsworth certainly was close on a few occasions.

neilybabes86

i remember that fight like it was yesterday..one of the best ever

the big auusie was a goofy nut ..all off balance and shit

strawman with a project sucker punch

great brawl

Cliffy6745

neilybabes86 wrote:

i remember that fight like it was yesterday..one of the best ever

the big auusie was a goofy nut ..all off balance and shit

strawman with a project sucker punch

great brawl

Yeah, man. Same here. That was great. That was an awesome season, obviously.

neilybabes86

Cliffy6745 wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

i remember that fight like it was yesterday..one of the best ever

the big auusie was a goofy nut ..all off balance and shit

strawman with a project sucker punch

great brawl

Yeah, man. Same here. That was great. That was an awesome season, obviously.

best ever...

i think we were tripping that night cause we watched sportcenter over and over for 12 hours

i really do think we were tripping

but he will always be loved by the fans for that incident (lloyd)

neilybabes86

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/04 ... -entirety/

tim raines hit a homer as soon as play resumed

Cliffy6745

neilybabes86 wrote:

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/04/28/the-yankees-orioles-benitez-bean-ball-brawl-in-its-glorious-entirety/

tim raines hit a homer as soon as play resumed

Good shit. Looks like 15 minutes out of my day is shot. Yeah, the Raines home run was just icing on cake, doesn't get better than that.

neilybabes86

Cliffy6745

neilybabes86 wrote:

Now thats a brawl.

neilybabes86

all the videos have been taken down by MLB

Cliffy6745

neilybabes86 wrote:

all the videos have been taken down by MLB

ahh, damn it. Was just about to settle in with my lunch and watch that. Fuckers.

neilybabes86

scotty b was a girl though..... but we forgave him with the mvp


however he distracted the big animal so straw could get the sucker punch

neilybabes86

Cliffy6745 wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

all the videos have been taken down by MLB

ahh, damn it. Was just about to settle in with my lunch and watch that. Fuckers.

search for it..i dont get youtube at work..but all the other sites i just looked at said it was taken down

Newch91

Cliffy6745 wrote:

This is awesome

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/artic ... o.twitter1)

Armando Benitez vs. Tino Martinez and the Yankees


At 28-9, the 1998 Yankees had already shown that they were in the business of kicking ass and taking names when the Orioles came to town having lost five straight games to push them under .500. The O's were on track to snap their streak with a 5-3 lead in the eighth inning when the Yankees drew two walks while making two outs against tiring O's starter Sidney Ponson and reliever Alan Mills. A Paul O'Neill single off Norm Charlton cut the lead to 5-4 when Benitez, the Orioles' imposing but immature closer, was summoned for a four-out save. Instead, he served up a three-run homer to Bernie Williams to give the Yankees a 7-5 lead, then blatantly plunked Tino Martinez between the shoulder blades with a 90-something MPH fastball on his next pitch. "That was a real cheap shot," said Yankees broadcaster Jim Kaat.

Martinez jawed at Benitez on the way down to first base, and the 6-foot-4 reliever dropped his glove. Both benches and bullpens emptied, and things escalated when Yankees' lefty reliever Graeme Lloyd—a 6-foot-8 Australian native my friends and I called "The Big Dingo"—came charging out of the bullpen and grabbed Benitez's chin before throwing a few wild punches with fellow Yankee reliever Jeff Nelson joining the fray. Benitez connected on a blow to the back of Lloyd's neck as he retreated from the mound into foul territory. As he neared the dugout, he squared off with Scott Brosius, who threw no punches but captured his attention while Darryl Strawberry rolled up behind and connected on a sucker punch to Benitez's head before pushing him into the Oriole dugout. Strawberry was restrained by multiple Orioles at the edge of the dugout, but amazingly enough, the two would square off again minutes later after Mills punched Strawberry while an irate Martinez kept making his way towards Benitez. The second time, Stawberry's blow was more glancing, and his momentum carried him into the dugout where Eddie Murray and Cal Ripken tried to calm him down. Ultimately, it took around 15 minutes before order was restored and play resumed.

"This is like one of those hockey brawls where the umpires have to figure out who stays and who goes," said Yankees broadcaster (and former Oriole) Ken Singleton. "To a man, the Orioles refused to muster even feigned support for Benitez," wrote Sports Illustrated's Tom Verducci. "The action of 'I'll hurt you if I can't beat you' totally misrepresents the Baltimore Orioles' tradition of good play and sportsmanship," said manager Ray Miller in apologizing to the Yankees. Benitez drew an eight-game suspension while Strawberry and Lloyd (three games) and Mills and Nelson (two games) received suspensions as well. The Yankees went on to win 114 regular season games and the World Series while the Orioles were swept by the Yankees en route to a nine-game losing streak. They haven't had a winning season since. —Jay Jaffe

Edit: Just to add, I was at the first game that Benitez played in for the Yankees. By far the loudest I have ever heard Yankees fans boo a Yankee, although Farnsworth certainly was close on a few occasions.

Best baseball fight EVER! My cousins were at that game and they told me they were about to leave when Bernie hit the home run, decided to stay, and got a show right after the home run.

Someone on YouTube had put up the entire fight, but I think it was taken down.

Here are a couple clips:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxV01qyqEw8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkv4yY9C ... re=related

Newch91

Cliffy6745 wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

Now thats a brawl.

:thumbup:

Cliffy6745

Newch91 wrote:

Best baseball fight EVER! My cousins were at that game and they told me they were about to leave when Bernie hit the home run, decided to stay, and got a show right after the home run.

Someone on YouTube had put up the entire fight, but I think it was taken down.

Here are a couple clips:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxV01qyqEw8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkv4yY9C ... re=related

Yes, Video! That's awesome. By far the best brawl. Tino was fired up.

Cliffy6745

I was just reading up on this a little more. I forgot or didn't realize that Steinbrenner pretty much offered out Peter Angelos after the fight, thats awesome. Sarcastic I am sure, but awesome either way.

"[AL president Gene Budig] may say he wants Peter Angelos and I to go three rounds and settle it. I'm ready." -- Yankees owner George Steinbrenner

The Juggler

neilybabes86 wrote:

that one made what happened between the phils and giants the other look like a tea and strumpets get together.

if your'e gonna brawl---then BRAWL.....all they do nowadays is pull people off each other.

then again, back then everyone was suffering from roid rage so, you know.....zing