First time in my life I was not a proud fan of this band...

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  • helplessdancer
    helplessdancer Posts: 5,293
    its kind of a fine line and the record industry is in a real flux

    if they were doing a commercial for best buy or walmart it would be a completely different story IMO

    target is OK with me, mostly cause of who they aren't
  • adamdude
    adamdude Posts: 101
    Seriously I think some of you people would defend this band even if they started playing Creed covers.

    "Oh so what? They've changed get over it, dey liek to play Creed now, who cares, if u dun like it den find anuva band!"
  • Happy Jack
    Happy Jack Posts: 207
    i love it..i wish pearl jam music was played throughout everything! sell the fuck out! who cares..the more pearl jam the better.
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  • orig_long red
    orig_long red Posts: 2,029
    adamdude wrote:
    Yield commercial wasn't also promoting a fucking huge corporate retail company!

    no, it was promoting a fucking huge entertainment company.

    sony, hello?
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    The Yield commercial was good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzjOXidORYg
    Up until the end it reminds me of Mr. Plow's second commercial where no one knows what just happened... :lol:
  • adamdude
    adamdude Posts: 101
    long red wrote:
    adamdude wrote:
    Yield commercial wasn't also promoting a fucking huge corporate retail company!

    no, it was promoting a fucking huge entertainment company.

    sony, hello?

    no it wasnt, never in the commercial did it say sony or have the sony logo
  • elevation622
    elevation622 Posts: 926
    Got to admit, this commercial bothers me a bit. That's my opinion. Also to all the people that practically quote Kelly Curtis ("Target's a corporation, but so was Sony...") when defending this deal, give it a rest. We all read the same article.
    On a more positive note, I'm loving the album!
  • RITFWinCO
    RITFWinCO Posts: 217
    The world is different now. People STEAL music without thinking twice. Consequently the rules for promoting and distributing music has changed. People trivialize this major thing. They want their band to stick to approaches that worked in kinder times.
  • MAS
    MAS Posts: 630
    Ledbetterman 10 is absolutely right, the Yield commercial was cool....This Target thing is a hideous skit, that had a fake audience with bad acting
  • adamdude
    adamdude Posts: 101
    Lately the band's actions have really disconnected me as a fan, and that makes me sad. I still really like the music, Backspacer is great. But the Fixer as a song, and the video, and this commercial. It all seems very Fall Out Boy. :cry:
  • orig_long red
    orig_long red Posts: 2,029
    edited September 2009
    adamdude wrote:
    Lately the band's actions have really disconnected me as a fan, and that makes me sad. I still really like the music, Backspacer is great. But the Fixer as a song, and the video, and this commercial. It all seems very Fall Out Boy. :cry:

    Fall Out Boy? Really? You're gonna go with Fall Out Boy. What actions?! So they made a video of the catchiest song on the album and are using it to promote and sell the album! Big fucking deal!
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    adamdude wrote:
    Yield commercial wasn't also promoting a fucking huge corporate retail company!

    Neither is this one. It is promoting Pearl Jam.

    Or, another way of looking at it, the Yield commercial was promoting Sony ... which is a bigger pain in the ass than Target could ever think of being.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,003
    edited September 2009
    MAS wrote:
    Ledbetterman 10 is absolutely right, the Yield commercial was cool....This Target thing is a hideous skit, that had a fake audience with bad acting

    Yeah I don't give a shit if the commercial promotes Target or if it makes PJ "sellouts" or whatever. I'm critical of this commercial (and The Fixer video in general) from a artistic standpoint. The Alive and Even Flow videos were performance videos. But the band got tired of that and Jeremy, Do the Evolution, and Life Wasted all had some artistic merit. But The Fixer was a complete 180 back to just playing in front of people. But without the realism of...ya know...playing in front of REAL fans like the Alive and Even Flow videos have, this video comes off very poorly to me.

    I think Cameron Crowe is big part of the problem with this vid.
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    adamdude wrote:
    Lately the band's actions have really disconnected me as a fan, and that makes me sad. I still really like the music, Backspacer is great. But the Fixer as a song, and the video, and this commercial. It all seems very Fall Out Boy. :cry:

    Then go away. Nobody is forcing you to stay on the bandwagon.

    I swear, some people just like to hear themselves bitch.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • orig_long red
    orig_long red Posts: 2,029
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    MAS wrote:
    Ledbetterman 10 is absolutely right, the Yield commercial was cool....This Target thing is a hideous skit, that had a fake audience with bad acting

    Yeah I don't give a shit if the commercial promotes Target or if it makes PJ "sellouts" or whatever. I'm critical of this commercial (and The Fixer video in general) from a artistic standpoint. The Alive and Even Flow videos were performance videos. But the band got tired of that and Jeremy, Do the Evolution, and Life Wasted all had some artistic merit. But The Fixer was a complete 180 back to just playing in front of people. But without the realism of...ya know...playing in front of REAL fans like the Alive and Even Flow videos have, this video comes off very poorly to me.

    And I think Cameron Crowe is big part of the problem with this vid.

    the saddest part is that the actors were more energetic than most "real" pj fans.
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    MAS wrote:
    Ledbetterman 10 is absolutely right, the Yield commercial was cool....This Target thing is a hideous skit, that had a fake audience with bad acting

    Yeah I don't give a shit if the commercial promotes Target or if it makes PJ "sellouts" or whatever. I'm critical of this commercial (and The Fixer video in general) from a artistic standpoint. The Alive and Even Flow videos were performance videos. But the band got tired of that and Jeremy, Do the Evolution, and Life Wasted all had some artistic merit. But The Fixer was a complete 180 back to just playing in front of people. But without the realism of...ya know...playing in front of REAL fans like the Alive and Even Flow videos have, this video comes off very poorly to me.

    And I think Cameron Crowe is big part of the problem with this vid.

    That's a fair enough take.

    It's not a great piece of art. I just don't give a shit. It's a video I will never see once on TV, and a commercial I might see a handful of times and never see again. It's such an insignificant thing, that I don't think I've really taken much time to analyze it.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
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  • adamdude
    adamdude Posts: 101
    slightofjeff wrote:
    adamdude wrote:
    Yield commercial wasn't also promoting a fucking huge corporate retail company!

    Neither is this one. It is promoting Pearl Jam.

    So you're trying to tell me that no where in the commercial is there any promotion for the Target store? No target logos floating around? No Target mentioned?

    The Yield commercial has no chroma-keyed Sony logos, no mention of Sony. Nothing. Its a promotion for the album, which happens to be on the Sony label.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    long red wrote:
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    MAS wrote:
    Ledbetterman 10 is absolutely right, the Yield commercial was cool....This Target thing is a hideous skit, that had a fake audience with bad acting

    Yeah I don't give a shit if the commercial promotes Target or if it makes PJ "sellouts" or whatever. I'm critical of this commercial (and The Fixer video in general) from a artistic standpoint. The Alive and Even Flow videos were performance videos. But the band got tired of that and Jeremy, Do the Evolution, and Life Wasted all had some artistic merit. But The Fixer was a complete 180 back to just playing in front of people. But without the realism of...ya know...playing in front of REAL fans like the Alive and Even Flow videos have, this video comes off very poorly to me.

    And I think Cameron Crowe is big part of the problem with this vid.

    the saddest part is that the actors were more energetic than most "real" pj fans.

    They were all unemployed and just happy to be making a buck without having to resort to fellatio.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    adamdude wrote:
    slightofjeff wrote:
    adamdude wrote:
    Yield commercial wasn't also promoting a fucking huge corporate retail company!

    Neither is this one. It is promoting Pearl Jam.

    So you're trying to tell me that no where in the commercial is there any promotion for the Target store? No target logos floating around? No Target mentioned?

    The Yield commercial has no chroma-keyed Sony logos, no mention of Sony. Nothing. Its a promotion for the album, which happens to be on the Sony label.

    You're right. I swear I hear Ed singing in that version of Fixer ... "If I'm out of sooaaaaap ... I just buy some more at Target!"

    :roll: :roll:
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • SM10080
    SM10080 Posts: 239
    MAS wrote:
    Was last night when I saw their Target commercial....It was as cheesey as it gets. I never thought I would see the day. Oh well....

    I said the same thing

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