First time in my life I was not a proud fan of this band...

MASMAS Posts: 630
edited September 2009 in The Porch
Was last night when I saw their Target commercial....It was as cheesey as it gets. I never thought I would see the day. Oh well....
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    MAS wrote:
    Was last night when I saw their Target commercial....It was as cheesey as it gets. I never thought I would see the day. Oh well....
    haven't seen it but its not so bad, the situation, its just mainstream
  • blondieblue227blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    what?
    it's just the music vid with the target logo on the screen behind them.
    so...?
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  • HeavyHandsHeavyHands Posts: 2,130
    I'd much rather see PJ on tv raising awareness of their new album than a Nickelback or Creed cameo in a cell phone commercial...
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  • MASMAS Posts: 630
    Nah, it was a commercial, I don't know, I always thought they were above that shit...
  • HeavyHandsHeavyHands Posts: 2,130
    Above promoting their work? Or above aligning themselves with a different organization?
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  • they used to be against commercials.... until they grew up and realized it's not a big deal. cuz it isn't.
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  • blondieblue227blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    Take them off that pedestal.
    “I’m not your fucking messiah”

    as a fan I get it but things change.
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  • It's easily the all-time cheesiest thing Pearl Jam has ever done. It might as well have been a promo for a Fall Out Boy album.
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  • MASMAS Posts: 630
    What was always so cool about this band was that they did things on their own terms, without any real promotion. Especially not by jumping into bed with a huge co. like Target. Why didn't thay use this marketing ploy for No Code, Yield, Binaural, or any other album for that matter? It just put a bad taste in my mouth....
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    for some reason, the commercial doesn't bother me at all & i thought that it would.
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  • you know, it's not technically a Target commercial... it's a commercial for the album, which is sold at Target. If you're going to step outside of the major label world, you have to do SOME promotion...

    now, as to the look and feel of the spot, I can't argue that... but we can't begrudge the guys doing something to promote their album -
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  • blondieblue227blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    they have gone out own their own. they have their own label now. gotta have somebody to sell their product. they picked target.
    it's all about how you look at it.
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  • blahblahblahblahblah

    Don't like it, don't watch it, don't listen to it, it's this thing we have here called FREEDOM OF CHOICE.

    Unreal.
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  • they have gone out own their own. they have their own label now. gotta have somebody to sell their product. they picked target.
    it's all about how you look at it.

    yeah but for me, it's not a matter of "They made a commercial" as it is "they made a CHEESY commercial". They've made commercials for albums before. Check out this Yield commercial which I think is far superior to that Backspacer one:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzjOXidORYg
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  • MAS wrote:
    Was last night when I saw their Target commercial....It was as cheesey as it gets. I never thought I would see the day. Oh well....

    Found this from another thread, yes PJ did a Target commerical but they are still doing things their way!!!!!

    Funny moment from last night - Ed says " I went to Target yesterday an bought a record... First time I have seen a record in a store like that.... Now if only we can get them to sell record players."

    So true
  • I agree that the video/commercial is cheesy. It feels like something Bon Jovi or Nickelback would do. But I'm just talking about the style/cinematography, not the "sell out" factor.
  • MASMAS Posts: 630
    I agree that the video/commercial is cheesy. It feels like something Bon Jovi or Nickelback would do. But I'm just talking about the style/cinematography, not the "sell out" factor.

    For me it was a little of both...Just having Pearl Jam associated with some retail chain was weird.
    Didn't seem llike them, know what I mean?
  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,616
    blahblahblahblahblah

    Don't like it, don't watch it, don't listen to it, it's this thing we have here called FREEDOM OF CHOICE.

    Unreal.
    Agreed.

    And we needed yet another thread about it.
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  • The way i see it is the Target deal is already over. PJ sold them 1 million copies of BS (rumored at $5ea) and provided them with some tools to use in marketing the record. This was a one album deal

    it's like a one night stand and Pearl Jams "walk of shame" is the commercial.

    we've all been there
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  • I agree that the video/commercial is cheesy. It feels like something Bon Jovi or Nickelback would do. But I'm just talking about the style/cinematography, not the "sell out" factor.

    I believe Cameron Crowe shot that and I think he has made a few movies, could be wrong.

    The commerical simply states where you can find the album, it's not like they are trying to sell a Chevy with it.

    That day may come, but this is a promotional tool so I see nothing wrong with it.
  • SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,398
    They are trying to beat the record labels...commercials and little publicity and plugging the album at shows are necessary.
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  • MASMAS Posts: 630
    it's like a one night stand and Pearl Jams "walk of shame" is the commercial.

    Well put....
  • MAS wrote:

    For me it was a little of both...Just having Pearl Jam associated with some retail chain was weird.
    Didn't seem llike them, know what I mean?
    I dont think PJ the fanbase they used to be able to say "fuck you" to everything anymore. Their records sales will drop everytime between records.

    Although saying that I dont like the ad either. If the performance for the ad was real, i would have liked it better, even with a target logo. I think its annoying that they made a fake crowd. etc.

    They could have just used footage shot like LATG DVD. But from an 09 show.. would have looked better too.
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  • It is all how you look at it. I guess you could view it as a "sellout" but it would be pretty ignorant. The band owns themselves and that is simply not the case with any major act or band. I see it as them rising above the machine using it, and truthfully everyone in America has access to target. Its totally funny, this is one band that has never danced like monkeys on a string and yet gets harped on by sixties burnouts looking superficially at them as "sellouts". :lol: . It ain't the 60's no mo peeps! :lol:
  • MAS wrote:

    For me it was a little of both...Just having Pearl Jam associated with some retail chain was weird.
    Didn't seem llike them, know what I mean?

    Well I remember the commercials for "Yield", so it's a not a totally foreign thing to me. I just think the combination of the song (super poppy) and the in-your-face cinematography makes for a super-corny experience.
  • MASMAS Posts: 630
    They are trying to beat the record labels...commercials and little publicity and plugging the album at shows are necessary.

    Isn't pearl Jam at the stage of their career where they don't have to chase down the $$ anymore?
    That should be at the beginning, no?
  • drsluggodrsluggo Posts: 4,742

    I believe Cameron Crowe shot that and I think he has made a few movies, could be wrong.
    Just because you make a movie doesn't mean that you can make a commercial, let alone make a good movie. I make movies too, but I don't wear pants and the critics just don't get it. It doesn't mean I can make a commercial or music video that isn't beyond cheesy :)
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