First time in my life I was not a proud fan of this band...

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  • MAS
    MAS Posts: 630
    daryl jam wrote:
    MAS wrote:
    What was always so cool about this band was that they did things on their own terms, without any real promotion. Especially not by jumping into bed with a huge co. like Target. Why didn't thay use this marketing ploy for No Code, Yield, Binaural, or any other album for that matter? It just put a bad taste in my mouth....

    Yeah..it sucks how they have made this album widely available across america as well as vinyl at a realistic price, while offering a cool shirt to help feed the poor. i hate it when bands do that. jesus.

    Every album they have ever put out was "widely available". That's not the point. I
  • UpSideDown
    UpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    only problem w/ the commercial is that i havent seen it on tv yet.
  • daryl jam
    daryl jam Posts: 104
    MAS wrote:
    daryl jam wrote:
    MAS wrote:
    What was always so cool about this band was that they did things on their own terms, without any real promotion. Especially not by jumping into bed with a huge co. like Target. Why didn't thay use this marketing ploy for No Code, Yield, Binaural, or any other album for that matter? It just put a bad taste in my mouth....

    Yeah..it sucks how they have made this album widely available across america as well as vinyl at a realistic price, while offering a cool shirt to help feed the poor. i hate it when bands do that. jesus.

    Every album they have ever put out was "widely available". That's not the point. I

    Ok, I know. I feel the same. I am not entirely comfortable with this big box collaboration either. But at least they are not being totally selfish. They dont HAVE to offer a charity shirt. Or sell the vinyl and CD cheap. Or give us 2 concert downloads. They could just sell the disc for 16 and the record for 30. If widespread promotion is "selling out" then this is the best compromise i think.
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  • AndySlash
    AndySlash Posts: 3,287
    MAS wrote:
    ok, That I get. But I just can't remember any serious promotion that the labels used to do, or had to do.

    Label promotional efforts definitely tapered off over the years, but I don't think the band cared all that much, either. You'd still see posters and stickers and the like when an album came out, but nothing like in the Vs.-Vitalogy heyday.

    Well, the band definitely cares now-they have to since they had to put all the money into the recording on their own- and they don't have the label to do the work. So they need to do different things than what they're accustomed to, and that includes promotion of their own.
  • helplessdancer
    helplessdancer Posts: 5,293
    MAS wrote:
    Was last night when I saw their Target commercial....It was as cheesey as it gets. I never thought I would see the day. Oh well....

    ha ha

    whats wrong with cheese anyways? i don't get that...

    i happen to really like cheddar

    mmmm cheddar
  • MAS
    MAS Posts: 630
    Ok, I know. I feel the same. I am not entirely comfortable with this big box collaboration either. But at least they are not being totally selfish. They dont HAVE to offer a charity shirt. Or sell the vinyl and CD cheap. Or give us 2 concert downloads. They could just sell the disc for 16 and the record for 30. If widespread promotion is "selling out" then this is the best compromise i think.[/quote]

    Good point. You make sense. Maybe its all just a sign of the times... or I'm just guilty of the whole "pedistal" thing...
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,684
    Am I the only one who hasn't seen it on TV yet?
    I miss igotid88
  • helplessdancer
    helplessdancer Posts: 5,293
    igotid88 wrote:
    Am I the only one who hasn't seen it on TV yet?

    what's tv?

    i gave up on that and now im addicted to internet porn

    damn
  • adamdude
    adamdude Posts: 101
    Remember in '03 when Vedder slammed Jewl for putting her new song on an ad?

    Very suspect them having a commercial like this after all they used to stand for.
  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    daryl jam wrote:
    Ok, I know. I feel the same. I am not entirely comfortable with this big box collaboration either. But at least they are not being totally selfish. They dont HAVE to offer a charity shirt. Or sell the vinyl and CD cheap. Or give us 2 concert downloads. They could just sell the disc for 16 and the record for 30. If widespread promotion is "selling out" then this is the best compromise i think.
    To play devil's advocate... the pricing of the CD/Vinyl is in-line with other new releases so there's really no 'giveaway' there whatsoever. The CD will be more next week and the vinyl for $20 to me seems very standard for a single LP release.

    The concert downloads cost them nothing outside of bandwith since they didn't pick anything that hasn't been previously released, and is nothing more than a marketing tool to get people to Target to buy the CD.

    The shirt is definitely cool though and I'm glad they had that partnership in there. Sure everyone makes more money through it, but at least charity gets a lot as well.
  • bigbadbill
    bigbadbill Posts: 1,758
    Next thing you know, there'll be Pearl Jam band action figures with kung fu grip. They'll be fighting the forces of W. and Cheney, along with their old nemesis, Ticketmaster (the Death Star of the enemy). You'll have PJ's sweetened cereal, with an action toy in the box - a member of the band with their own instrument (which is really a laser gun).
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  • Geoff
    Geoff Posts: 44
    emptyglass wrote:
    igotid88 wrote:
    Am I the only one who hasn't seen it on TV yet?

    what's tv?

    i gave up on that and now im addicted to internet porn

    damn
    tv's are great! you can buy them at Target. no porn there though. :evil:
  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    bigbadbill wrote:
    Next thing you know, there'll be Pearl Jam band action figures with kung fu grip. They'll be fighting the forces of W. and Cheney, along with their old nemesis, Ticketmaster (the Death Star of the enemy). You'll have PJ's sweetened cereal, with an action toy in the box - a member of the band with their own instrument (which is really a laser gun).
    I want some PJ figures done by McFarlane - that guy makes awesome figures.
  • MAS
    MAS Posts: 630
    bigbadbill wrote:
    Next thing you know, there'll be Pearl Jam band action figures with kung fu grip. They'll be fighting the forces of W. and Cheney, along with their old nemesis, Ticketmaster (the Death Star of the enemy). You'll have PJ's sweetened cereal, with an action toy in the box - a member of the band with their own instrument (which is really a laser gun).

    :lol:
  • BadFlounder
    BadFlounder Posts: 25
    MAS wrote:
    Nah, it was a commercial, I don't know, I always thought they were above that shit...

    Get a grip dude. They can't be depressed singing "Ten" songs their entire lives. So they have evolved a bit and so what if they're selling at Target and making a commercial. Is it REALLY such a problem??
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    BadFlounder wrote:
    MAS wrote:
    Nah, it was a commercial, I don't know, I always thought they were above that shit...

    Get a grip dude. They can't be depressed singing "Ten" songs their entire lives. So they have evolved a bit and so what if they're selling at Target and making a commercial. Is it REALLY such a problem??

    Not to mention, once upon a time, there was a commercial for Yield ...
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  • MAS
    MAS Posts: 630
    BadFlounder wrote:
    MAS wrote:
    Nah, it was a commercial, I don't know, I always thought they were above that shit...

    Get a grip dude. They can't be depressed singing "Ten" songs their entire lives. So they have evolved a bit and so what if they're selling at Target and making a commercial. Is it REALLY such a problem??

    No, I just personally thought/hoped they wouldn't go that route.
  • orig_long red
    orig_long red Posts: 2,029
    good lord! they're trying to sell an album!

    next thing you know they'll be promoting a tour or *gasp* selling t-shirts!!!!!

    ooooh what oh what will i do with all this leftover angst from the 90s?!?!
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,003
    edited September 2009
    long red wrote:
    good lord! they're trying to sell an album!

    next thing you know they'll be promoting a tour or *gasp* selling t-shirts!!!!!

    ooooh what oh what will i do with all this leftover angst from the 90s?!?!


    I don't think the fact that they made a commercial is the issue here. I think that most complaints about the Backspacer commercial is that it's not very good. Let's face it: it's a couple of mid-40's hipsters playing a pop song in front of a bunch of fake fans.

    The Yield commercial was good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzjOXidORYg
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  • adamdude
    adamdude Posts: 101
    Yield commercial wasn't also promoting a fucking huge corporate retail company!

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