Stranger allegedly slaps crying child in store

Heineken Helen

cropduster82 wrote:

I have a question for you pjhawks...

It obviously bothers you to hear a child crying or screaming in a public place but, honestly now, how many times have you approached the parent and asked them to quiet their child?

I'm guessing never. You hide behind you're computer screen and say all the things you don't have the balls to say in public when they actually happen. You let it happen, then bitch about it later to someone else or on a message board of all places.

I have a kid and sometimes, yeah, he cries in public. I don't like it any more than anyone else but it happens. I deal with it and try my best to comfort him. But if someone came up to me and told me to quiet my kid, I'd tell them to go fuck themselves. You don't like it? You leave. No one is forcing you to stay.

On the one hand you ask him if he ever asks the parents to keep their kid quiet... then you go on to tell him that you'd tell him to go fuck himself if he did?????????????? Well that's just rude... wouldn't you prefer people speak their minds? You'd really be teaching your kid an example by telling a stranger to go fuck themselves.

There's a lot of 'if you don't have kids, don't tell me what to do' going on here... and then followed by telling other people how they SHOULD parent... like smacking being child abuse. Surely all parents have their own way of dealing with things... some parents can be sooooo bloody sanctimonious, it's ridiculous. Try saying 'don't tell me how to parent my kid' when they start stealing or being little bastards. If your kids have any effect on my life whatsoever, either by being loud or otherwise, I'll speak my mind and if you proceed to tell me to go fuck myself... well that may not be a wise choice of yours.

brother123

mrvedderson wrote:

im a parent and all you need to do is get the kids attention, if words arent doing it a smack on the mouth wont do any harm, gets the eye contact you are after. there have been many times where i wanna treat others kids like mine, but i know i cant do that. and for the stranger to feel it is their place to step in is pretty hypocritical, like saying, dont bother me when no one was even paying attention to you.

You're in trouble now. . . All these parents here are gonna go apeshit

Quite honestly, it was the parents fault. Yeah I said it, if they can't control the kid and just let it go on and on they're to blame

what the old fart did was wrong too.

pearljgirl2010

Heineken Helen wrote:

On the one hand you ask him if he ever asks the parents to keep their kid quiet... then you go on to tell him that you'd tell him to go fuck himself if he did?????????????? Well that's just rude... wouldn't you prefer people speak their minds? You'd really be teaching your kid an example by telling a stranger to go fuck themselves.

There's a lot of 'if you don't have kids, don't tell me what to do' going on here... and then followed by telling other people how they SHOULD parent... like smacking being child abuse. Surely all parents have their own way of dealing with things... some parents can be sooooo bloody sanctimonious, it's ridiculous. Try saying 'don't tell me how to parent my kid' when they start stealing or being little bastards. If your kids have any effect on my life whatsoever, either by being loud or otherwise, I'll speak my mind and if you proceed to tell me to go fuck myself... well that may not be a wise choice of yours.

Yeah, Helen!!!!!

mrvedderson

brother123 wrote:

mrvedderson wrote:

im a parent and all you need to do is get the kids attention, if words arent doing it a smack on the mouth wont do any harm, gets the eye contact you are after. there have been many times where i wanna treat others kids like mine, but i know i cant do that. and for the stranger to feel it is their place to step in is pretty hypocritical, like saying, dont bother me when no one was even paying attention to you.

You're in trouble now. . . All these parents here are gonna go apeshit

Quite honestly, it was the parents fault. Yeah I said it, if they can't control the kid and just let it go on and on they're to blame

what the old fart did was wrong too.

its ok, i would much rather my kids be smart and know whats real and not than lie to them and baby them just so i dont have to hear the whining and crying. i think its way worse to let your child be dumb and ignorant than it is to spank. i dont beat, i spank, and a smack on the mouth is not abuse. if a parent can not get over themselves enough to do what is best for their child in the long run, then they shouldnt be parents. people forget what kind of fucked up world it is and i would rather have them prepared than for them to get slapped in the face by this fucked up world.

youngster

Heineken Helen wrote:

cropduster82 wrote:

I have a question for you pjhawks...

It obviously bothers you to hear a child crying or screaming in a public place but, honestly now, how many times have you approached the parent and asked them to quiet their child?

I'm guessing never. You hide behind you're computer screen and say all the things you don't have the balls to say in public when they actually happen. You let it happen, then bitch about it later to someone else or on a message board of all places.

I have a kid and sometimes, yeah, he cries in public. I don't like it any more than anyone else but it happens. I deal with it and try my best to comfort him. But if someone came up to me and told me to quiet my kid, I'd tell them to go fuck themselves. You don't like it? You leave. No one is forcing you to stay.

On the one hand you ask him if he ever asks the parents to keep their kid quiet... then you go on to tell him that you'd tell him to go fuck himself if he did?????????????? Well that's just rude... wouldn't you prefer people speak their minds? You'd really be teaching your kid an example by telling a stranger to go fuck themselves.

There's a lot of 'if you don't have kids, don't tell me what to do' going on here... and then followed by telling other people how they SHOULD parent... like smacking being child abuse. Surely all parents have their own way of dealing with things... some parents can be sooooo bloody sanctimonious, it's ridiculous. Try saying 'don't tell me how to parent my kid' when they start stealing or being little bastards. If your kids have any effect on my life whatsoever, either by being loud or otherwise, I'll speak my mind and if you proceed to tell me to go fuck myself... well that may not be a wise choice of yours.

I just asked if he ever did. Then I gave my own personal response if that ever happened. Sure it's rude. Never said I wasn't. But at a stressful time like trying to quiet you're kid down, you don't need some yuppie douche to tell you what you already know. I'm sure most parents would apologize if a stranger approached them and asked them to quiet their kid. Sounds like a PC answer nowadays. I'm not most parents. I like to think I tell it like it is. I'm not at all trying to give people advice either. I simply stated what I would do. That's all. I guess we'll agree to disagree. You have a right to tell me to quiet my kid, and I have a right to tell you to go fuck yourself. End of story.

iamica

Heatherj43 wrote:

I'm wondering if kids should not go out in public or if people who can't handle a kid crying should stay home.

I have an answer for that one...when I was a kid, my little brother (who was about 2 or 3) used to throw tantrums in stores all the time. One day, my mom had enough. She said to him, "If you throw one more tantrum while we're in here, I'm not taking you to the store for a YEAR." Sure enough, while we were there he threw a tantrum...and she kept her word. My brother wasn't allowed in any store for an entire year. He never threw a tantrum in public again.
Moral of the story...kids who are acting like that need to be taught that it's not appropriate, and they need to be disciplined.

ZiggyStar

Would a 2 or 3 year old even be able to comprehend how long a year was?

aNiMaL

ZiggyStar wrote:

Would a 2 or 3 year old even be able to comprehend how long a year was?

I seriously doubt it. I don't think a kid at that age has that great of a grasp on the notion of time. Probably could have said a month and it would have had the same outcome.

ZiggyStar

aNiMaL wrote:

ZiggyStar wrote:

Would a 2 or 3 year old even be able to comprehend how long a year was?

I seriously doubt it. I don't think a kid at that age has that great of a grasp on the notion of time. Probably could have said a month and it would have had the same outcome.

That's what I thought! I remember how long the school year used to last.....the fucking year never used to end! Now I wish the years went by a little slower.

pearljgirl2010

iamica wrote:

I have an answer for that one...when I was a kid, my little brother (who was about 2 or 3) used to throw tantrums in stores all the time. One day, my mom had enough. She said to him, "If you throw one more tantrum while we're in here, I'm not taking you to the store for a YEAR." Sure enough, while we were there he threw a tantrum...and she kept her word. My brother wasn't allowed in any store for an entire year. He never threw a tantrum in public again.
Moral of the story...kids who are acting like that need to be taught that it's not appropriate, and they need to be disciplined.[/quote]


I also think it's important that the punishment be carried out--I feel like i hear parents giving out a punishment but not following through...making it a half-assed attempt. that doesn't make anything better!

aNiMaL

ZiggyStar wrote:

aNiMaL wrote:

ZiggyStar wrote:

Would a 2 or 3 year old even be able to comprehend how long a year was?

I seriously doubt it. I don't think a kid at that age has that great of a grasp on the notion of time. Probably could have said a month and it would have had the same outcome.

That's what I thought! I remember how long the school year used to last.....the fucking year never used to end! Now I wish the years went by a little slower.

You now it! I remember summer vacation, which was only a little more than two months, seemed like it was half the year.

my2hands

aNiMaL wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/02/georgia.tot.slapped/index.html

Stranger allegedly slaps crying child in store
By Gabriel Falcon
AC360° Writer


Roger Stephens allegedly slapped a stranger's crying toddler in a Walmart store in Stone Mountain, Georgia.

(CNN) -- A Georgia man allegedly slapped a toddler at a Walmart store because she wouldn't stop crying, authorities said.

Roger Stephens, 61, was arrested Monday and charged with first-degree cruelty to children. An incident report obtained from police in Gwinnett County indicated Stephens did not know the 2-year-old girl he stands accused of hitting.

The confrontation happened shortly before noon at the Walmart in Stone Mountain, a suburb of Atlanta.

According to the arresting officer, the child's mother said her daughter was crying as they walked down one of the aisles.

The mother said a stranger later identified as Stephens approached them and said, "If you don't shut the baby up, I will shut her up for you." Video Watch what the stranger said »

A few moments later, while the mother and the crying child were in another aisle, Stephens allegedly grabbed the girl and slapped her across the face.

Police said he hit her four or five times. "See, I told you I would shut her up," the suspect allegedly told the mother.

Authorities described "slight redness" to the toddler's face. Before he was arrested, Stephens apologized to the mother for striking the girl, the incident report said.

Stephens, a Stone Mountain resident, is being held by the Gwinnett County Sheriff's Department.

if anyone hit my child they would not make out out of the store

BhagavadGita

Heatherj43 wrote:

I'm wondering if kids should not go out in public or if people who can't handle a kid crying should stay home.

Well, said...

yes, let's lock up our kids like in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. For those who remember that movie.

Let's make it adult land so no one ever has to be uncomfortable.

acoustic guy

aNiMaL wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/02/georgia.tot.slapped/index.html

Stranger allegedly slaps crying child in store
By Gabriel Falcon
AC360° Writer


Roger Stephens allegedly slapped a stranger's crying toddler in a Walmart store in Stone Mountain, Georgia.

(CNN) -- A Georgia man allegedly slapped a toddler at a Walmart store because she wouldn't stop crying, authorities said.

Roger Stephens, 61, was arrested Monday and charged with first-degree cruelty to children. An incident report obtained from police in Gwinnett County indicated Stephens did not know the 2-year-old girl he stands accused of hitting.

The confrontation happened shortly before noon at the Walmart in Stone Mountain, a suburb of Atlanta.

According to the arresting officer, the child's mother said her daughter was crying as they walked down one of the aisles.

The mother said a stranger later identified as Stephens approached them and said, "If you don't shut the baby up, I will shut her up for you." Video Watch what the stranger said »

A few moments later, while the mother and the crying child were in another aisle, Stephens allegedly grabbed the girl and slapped her across the face.

Police said he hit her four or five times. "See, I told you I would shut her up," the suspect allegedly told the mother.

Authorities described "slight redness" to the toddler's face. Before he was arrested, Stephens apologized to the mother for striking the girl, the incident report said.

Stephens, a Stone Mountain resident, is being held by the Gwinnett County Sheriff's Department.

WHAT????????????????????
If that happened to my daughter I would FUCK HIM UP! OMG!! I am shocked. I would be in fucking jail. Totally Shocked~!

dunkman

acoustic guy wrote:

WHAT????????????????????
If that happened to my daughter I would FUCK HIM UP! OMG!! I am shocked. I would be in fucking jail. Totally Shocked~!

i'm going out on a limb here... but do you find this story 'shocking'?

Byrnzie

dunkman wrote:

i'm going out on a limb here... but do you find this story 'shocking'?

He was so shocked when he read it that he looked exactly like the picture of Beaker in your avatar. :P

Ms. Haiku

LikeAnOcean wrote:

After a spanking I remember feeling shocked, ashamed and embarassed it came to such a silly act.

You forgot the anger and the confusion. Shocked, humiliated, angry and confused. I just got hit for what . . . ?!

I only know the I'll hit you because I can attitude of being parented.

I'm not a parent, but isn't there another way?

supersonicyears

mrvedderson wrote:

im a parent and all you need to do is get the kids attention, if words arent doing it a smack on the mouth wont do any harm, gets the eye contact you are after. there have been many times where i wanna treat others kids like mine, but i know i cant do that. and for the stranger to feel it is their place to step in is pretty hypocritical, like saying, dont bother me when no one was even paying attention to you.

You smack your children in the mouth. You should be sitting in the cell right next to that ass that hit that little girl. I feel sorry for your children.

If someone hit my child, I would hope I was in one of the more interesting sharp aisles in the store. He wouldn't be able to hit another child again.

You people that are posting like you're sympathizing with that monster are pathetic. I hope you don't have children.

Heatherj43

pearljgirl2010 wrote:

iamica wrote:

I have an answer for that one...when I was a kid, my little brother (who was about 2 or 3) used to throw tantrums in stores all the time. One day, my mom had enough. She said to him, "If you throw one more tantrum while we're in here, I'm not taking you to the store for a YEAR." Sure enough, while we were there he threw a tantrum...and she kept her word. My brother wasn't allowed in any store for an entire year. He never threw a tantrum in public again.
Moral of the story...kids who are acting like that need to be taught that it's not appropriate, and they need to be disciplined.

I also think it's important that the punishment be carried out--I feel like i hear parents giving out a punishment but not following through...making it a half-assed attempt. that doesn't make anything better![/quote]
Yep! Also, when dishing out the punishment, it needs to be reasonable enough to carry out. You are right about they must be carried out and consistent. If you just threaten most of the time, the kid thinks whatever you say is likely another threat and will ignore you or tempt you. They also will be shocked when you actually carry out your threat. They will not know which time you mean it and when you don't. I also find I need to only spank a child when the child is in physical danger. They take it serious then. If I spank a kid for spilling milk AND for running in the street, he will equate them as the same danger or problem. If I only spank when its real serious, he will know that it was more serious than any of his other bad behavior. I didn't know this with my own kids, but I do with the grandkids. I only spank the oldest one time and it was when he ran in the street in a parking lot. He never did it agaian, at least not with me.
For other behavior, the punishment equates to the crime. That way they stay safe and know how serious their behavior may be.

Jason P

I was in a Walmart in Wyoming last week and there was a kid acting nuts and got about ten warnings from his Dad before finally getting yanked over his Dad's knee and getting a stiff spanking. It shut the kid up. I saw them 15 minutes later and he was still well behaved. You usually don't see stuff like that anymore thanks to the politically correct society we live in.

The moral of the story is that people that shop at Walmart like to beat up kids . . . and buy $9.99 DVD's.