Stranger allegedly slaps crying child in store

pearljgirl2010

oh, Helen!! Thank you for all of these posts...they're fantastic!!! I agree with you 98%!!!!!!!!

Heineken Helen

pearljgirl2010 wrote:

oh, Helen!! Thank you for all of these posts...they're fantastic!!! I agree with you 98%!!!!!!!!

what happened to the 2%??

People forget that we still know what kids are like... with my niece and nephews, sometimes they act up in public and you just get them out of there straight away (their mother does too.. cos as much as teaching them stuff is important, she still understands that you have to respect other people and their mental health). You teach them how to behave at home and enforce it in public. If you can't control your kids in public, you're simply a bad parent. Sorry if that's something you don't wanna hear. But letting your kid cry and cry and cry whilst you continue to do your shopping is much MUCH worse than a smack.

pearljgirl2010

Heineken Helen wrote:

pearljgirl2010 wrote:

oh, Helen!! Thank you for all of these posts...they're fantastic!!! I agree with you 98%!!!!!!!!

what happened to the 2%??

People forget that we still know what kids are like... with my niece and nephews, sometimes they act up in public and you just get them out of there straight away (their mother does too.. cos as much as teaching them stuff is important, she still understands that you have to respect other people and their mental health). You teach them how to behave at home and enforce it in public. If you can't control your kids in public, you're simply a bad parent. Sorry if that's something you don't wanna hear. But letting your kid cry and cry and cry whilst you continue to do your shopping is much MUCH worse than a smack.

Yup! Kids need to be taught respect very early on...and consequences to their actions. I have friends who let their boy do whatever he wants--there is no discipline of any sort, he doesn't clean up after himself, etc--it's terrible. They ask me to babysit and I run in the opposite direction!

Heineken Helen

pearljgirl2010 wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

pearljgirl2010 wrote:

oh, Helen!! Thank you for all of these posts...they're fantastic!!! I agree with you 98%!!!!!!!!

what happened to the 2%??

People forget that we still know what kids are like... with my niece and nephews, sometimes they act up in public and you just get them out of there straight away (their mother does too.. cos as much as teaching them stuff is important, she still understands that you have to respect other people and their mental health). You teach them how to behave at home and enforce it in public. If you can't control your kids in public, you're simply a bad parent. Sorry if that's something you don't wanna hear. But letting your kid cry and cry and cry whilst you continue to do your shopping is much MUCH worse than a smack.

Yup! Kids need to be taught respect very early on...and consequences to their actions. I have friends who let their boy do whatever he wants--there is no discipline of any sort, he doesn't clean up after himself, etc--it's terrible. They ask me to babysit and I run in the opposite direction!

rightly so :oops: I think some people tend to forget that advice from the outside is often the best. E.g if you're looking for some petty teenage relationship advice, it's quite often that someone who's never been in your stupid situation will be the one who can give you the most practical advice. But if you're gonna be all defensive, well you won't learn anything. Sometimes when you're on the outside, the solution is soooo simple.

Heatherj43

All those who somehow think the kid deserved to be slapped cuz of its continual crying still got it wrong, even if I should agree with you as to not having to listen to some crying kid. Slap the parent, but not the kid. I still cannot see how you can see that it is ever allright to slap a baby repeatedly. I just don't get the rationalization.
I'd f'ck up that guy so bad. Cops wouldn't have to be called. It wouldn't even have to be my kid.

dunkman

this thread is like funny... non-parents telling us how we should treat and deal with our own kids...

its like getting advice from Michael J Fox at the best way to win Musical Statues

Chazz

dunkman wrote:

this thread is like funny... non-parents telling us how we should treat and deal with our own kids...

its like getting advice from Michael J Fox at the best way to win Musical Statues

seriously you should get a job in stand up - i would pay money to see (heckle) you

TriumphantAngel

dunkman wrote:

this thread is like funny... non-parents telling us how we should treat and deal with our own kids...

its like getting advice from Michael J Fox at the best way to win Musical Statues

i love me some dunky.

Heatherj43

dunkman wrote:

this thread is like funny... non-parents telling us how we should treat and deal with our own kids...

its like getting advice from Michael J Fox at the best way to win Musical Statues

Yeah!! Can you imagine if your kid was just having one of those days, (this was a toddler), and some stranger slapped it repeatedly?? Oh man!! I just can't imagine.
One time my 5 year old son and I went to the movie show. An old lady in back of us placed her feet inside the crevice of my son's seat; where the top and bottom meet, but in the back of his seat, so he gets up and then sits right back down and pinched her toes. I heard her yell out, turned and realized what happned and apologized, even though it was not my kid's fault. She ignored me and put her hand up like she was gonna back hand him and said, "I oughta slap you, sonny". I felt my blood boil. My ex was there too and I saw him get pissed. I waved to him to just ignore her and calm down, but then she proceeded to bitch to her husband thru the whole movie about how her toes hurt!!! The movie was some older version of Superman, or something like that, it may have been Star Wars.
It took a lot for my ex and I to just sit there and try to ignore her. I had taken my son out at some point and let him know he was not at fault. Why she had her feet in the crevice of a seat that automatically folds when someone gets up is beyond me. When my son got up and this happened, the show hadn't started and he was getting up to go with his dad to get treats, I said he couldn't go right then, and he sat back down, pinching her toes which shouldn't had been on my kid's seat anyway. To threaten to slap him and me stay quiet was very hard!! My blood boiled.

dunkman

Heatherj43 wrote:

dunkman wrote:

this thread is like funny... non-parents telling us how we should treat and deal with our own kids...

its like getting advice from Michael J Fox at the best way to win Musical Statues

Yeah!! Can you imagine if your kid was just having one of those days, (this was a toddler), and some stranger slapped it repeatedly?? Oh man!! I just can't imagine.
One time my 5 year old son and I went to the movie show. An old lady in back of us placed her feet inside the crevice of my son's seat; where the top and bottom meet, but in the back of his seat, so he gets up and then sits right back down and pinched her toes. I heard her yell out, turned and realized what happned and apologized, even though it was not my kid's fault. She ignored me and put her hand up like she was gonna back hand him and said, "I oughta slap you, sonny". I felt my blood boil. My ex was there too and I saw him get pissed. I waved to him to just ignore her and calm down, but then she proceeded to bitch to her husband thru the whole movie about how her toes hurt!!! The movie was some older version of Superman, or something like that, it may have been Star Wars.
It took a lot for my ex and I to just sit there and try to ignore her. I had taken my son out at some point and let him know he was not at fault. Why she had her feet in the crevice of a seat that automatically folds when someone gets up is beyond me. When my son got up and this happened, the show hadn't started and he was getting up to go with his dad to get treats, I said he couldn't go right then, and he sat back down, pinching her toes which shouldn't had been on my kid's seat anyway. To threaten to slap him and me stay quiet was very hard!! My blood boiled.

i would have punched her in the fudd™

catefrances

Heineken Helen wrote:

rightly so :oops: I think some people tend to forget that advice from the outside is often the best. E.g if you're looking for some petty teenage relationship advice, it's quite often that someone who's never been in your stupid situation will be the one who can give you the most practical advice. But if you're gonna be all defensive, well you won't learn anything. Sometimes when you're on the outside, the solution is soooo simple.

me: helen i just dont know what to do with little johnny anymore.. its gotten where i cant even take him to tesco's

helen: why cate whats the problem??

me: he just continually cries and chucks a tanty whenever we bypass the confectionary aisle.

helen: well cate have you slapped the little bastard?? maybe thatll teach him how to behave in the supermarket.

me: ive always been of the opinion that violence begets violence. i really dont want to hit my child.

helen: no no hell be fine.. hell grow up with respect for you that you taught him how to stay in line through violence. and when hes a parent hell know how to handle the same situation.

me: wow jeez thanks helen i hadnt thought of hitting my child before. youre a lifesaver.

dunkman

catefrances wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

rightly so :oops: I think some people tend to forget that advice from the outside is often the best. E.g if you're looking for some petty teenage relationship advice, it's quite often that someone who's never been in your stupid situation will be the one who can give you the most practical advice. But if you're gonna be all defensive, well you won't learn anything. Sometimes when you're on the outside, the solution is soooo simple.

me: helen i just dont know what to do with little johnny anymore.. its gotten where i cant even take him to tesco's

helen: why cate whats the problem??

me: he just continually cries and chucks a tanty whenever we bypass the confectionary aisle.

helen: well cate have you slapped the little bastard?? maybe thatll teach him how to behave in the supermarket.

me: ive always been of the opinion that violence begets violence. i really dont want to hit my child.

helen: no no hell be fine.. hell grow up with respect for you that you taught him how to stay in line through violence. and when hes a parent hell know how to handle the same situation.

me: wow jeez thanks helen i hadnt thought of hitting my child before. youre a lifesaver.

at no point in this scenario did you punch her in the fudd™ though? why is this?

nuffingman

catefrances wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

rightly so :oops: I think some people tend to forget that advice from the outside is often the best. E.g if you're looking for some petty teenage relationship advice, it's quite often that someone who's never been in your stupid situation will be the one who can give you the most practical advice. But if you're gonna be all defensive, well you won't learn anything. Sometimes when you're on the outside, the solution is soooo simple.

me: helen i just dont know what to do with little johnny anymore.. its gotten where i cant even take him to tesco's

helen: why cate whats the problem??

me: he just continually cries and chucks a tanty whenever we bypass the confectionary aisle.

helen: well cate have you slapped the little bastard?? maybe thatll teach him how to behave in the supermarket.

me: ive always been of the opinion that violence begets violence. i really dont want to hit my child.

helen: no no hell be fine.. hell grow up with respect for you that you taught him how to stay in line through violence. and when hes a parent hell know how to handle the same situation.

me: wow jeez thanks helen i hadnt thought of hitting my child before. youre a lifesaver.

I think help from the outside can be very useful.

cate: I just dont know what to do with little johnny anymore.. its gotten where i cant even take him to tesco's

me: why cate whats the problem??

cate: he just continually cries and chucks a tanty whenever we bypass the confectionary aisle.

me: well tell him you'll buy him some if he agrees to eat everything you buy. Then you buy him 3 huge family bars and watch him chuck the lot.

cate: but he'll leave a horrific mess

me: take a sick bag cate, take a sick bag.

cate: wow jeez thanks, I never knew that projectile vomiting would be the cure.

me: no problem cate, glad to be of service

catefrances

nuffingman wrote:

catefrances wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

rightly so :oops: I think some people tend to forget that advice from the outside is often the best. E.g if you're looking for some petty teenage relationship advice, it's quite often that someone who's never been in your stupid situation will be the one who can give you the most practical advice. But if you're gonna be all defensive, well you won't learn anything. Sometimes when you're on the outside, the solution is soooo simple.

me: helen i just dont know what to do with little johnny anymore.. its gotten where i cant even take him to tesco's

helen: why cate whats the problem??

me: he just continually cries and chucks a tanty whenever we bypass the confectionary aisle.

helen: well cate have you slapped the little bastard?? maybe thatll teach him how to behave in the supermarket.

me: ive always been of the opinion that violence begets violence. i really dont want to hit my child.

helen: no no hell be fine.. hell grow up with respect for you that you taught him how to stay in line through violence. and when hes a parent hell know how to handle the same situation.

me: wow jeez thanks helen i hadnt thought of hitting my child before. youre a lifesaver.

I think help from the outside can be very useful.

cate: I just dont know what to do with little johnny anymore.. its gotten where i cant even take him to tesco's

me: why cate whats the problem??

cate: he just continually cries and chucks a tanty whenever we bypass the confectionary aisle.

me: well tell him you'll buy him some if he agrees to eat everything you buy. Then you buy him 3 huge family bars and watch him chuck the lot.

cate: but he'll leave a horrific mess

me: take a sick bag cate, take a sick bag.

cate: wow jeez thanks, I never knew that projectile vomiting would be the cure.

me: no problem cate, glad to be of service

thats torture you know.

catefrances

dunkman wrote:

catefrances wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

rightly so :oops: I think some people tend to forget that advice from the outside is often the best. E.g if you're looking for some petty teenage relationship advice, it's quite often that someone who's never been in your stupid situation will be the one who can give you the most practical advice. But if you're gonna be all defensive, well you won't learn anything. Sometimes when you're on the outside, the solution is soooo simple.

me: helen i just dont know what to do with little johnny anymore.. its gotten where i cant even take him to tesco's

helen: why cate whats the problem??

me: he just continually cries and chucks a tanty whenever we bypass the confectionary aisle.

helen: well cate have you slapped the little bastard?? maybe thatll teach him how to behave in the supermarket.

me: ive always been of the opinion that violence begets violence. i really dont want to hit my child.

helen: no no hell be fine.. hell grow up with respect for you that you taught him how to stay in line through violence. and when hes a parent hell know how to handle the same situation.

me: wow jeez thanks helen i hadnt thought of hitting my child before. youre a lifesaver.

at no point in this scenario did you punch her in the fudd™ though? why is this?

i think you know why dunk.

Drowned Out

I find it interesting that most of the people defending or advocating spankings/smacking a kid, are likely to have been disciplined that way themselves....like they're defending their parents or their upbringing. I don't think a swat on the butt is some form of horrific child abuse...I've done it myself...but the few times I have, it's been a last resort; done when I was out of options and patience....which in itself tells me that it cannot be the best way to handle the situation. If it's done impulsively and out of frustration, it's not a well conceived way of dealing.... right?
'smack on the mouth'????? :? :( wtf.....seriously? who smacks a kid in the MOUTH?
'she keeps back-talkin like that and I'ma gonna make that mouth a lil less purdy'

Ms. Haiku

Drowned Out wrote:

I find it interesting that most of the people defending or advocating spankings/smacking a kid, are likely to have been disciplined that way themselves....like they're defending their parents or their upbringing. I don't think a swat on the butt is some form of horrific child abuse...I've done it myself...but the few times I have, it's been a last resort; done when I was out of options and patience....which in itself tells me that it cannot be the best way to handle the situation. If it's done impulsively and out of frustration, it's not a well conceived way of dealing.... right?
'smack on the mouth'????? :? :( wtf.....seriously? who smacks a kid in the MOUTH?
'she keeps back-talkin like that and I'ma gonna make that mouth a lil less purdy'

I'm very proud to say that my siblings who have kids do not hit their kids even though we were. It wasn't a rare occasion, either. They are breaking the cycle! Yippee! When I see my siblings with their kids, and notice how their kids are not in any way shape or form scared of them or have negative relationships with them it's an incredible sight

Heatherj43

Are people missing the point that this kid was NOT HIS KID!!!

Ms. Haiku

Heatherj43 wrote:

Are people missing the point that this kid was NOT HIS KID!!!

No, I don't think so. It just looks like some are talking about stranger assault, and some are talking about child abuse.

catefrances

Heatherj43 wrote:

Are people missing the point that this kid was NOT HIS KID!!!

im not.