Stranger allegedly slaps crying child in store

Hammerdonkey

I don't think I've ever been anywhere where I couldn't get one of my kids to be quiet. Granted, it might take me getting a toy or some candy but silence is greater than a few bucks because nothing is worse than a kid showing his or her ass out in public.

That being said, this old dude would have got me put in the Ass Whipping Hall of Fame if he had tried that shit with one of mine.

That's pretty ballsy though. To hit a kid that you don't know in the world's largest retail chain with more security cameras than any place in the known universe. That's fucking old school.

JD Sal

Heineken Helen wrote:

some of us don't have kids so we don't have to deal with that shit, why should we shut up and deal with other people's shit?

Hmm, easy answer here - because you elected to venture out into a public place like Walmart and took the assumed risk that you may end up hearing some noise while you're there, possibly from a child.

Heineken Helen wrote:

If your kids have any effect on my life whatsoever, either by being loud or otherwise, I'll speak my mind and if you proceed to tell me to go fuck myself... well that may not be a wise choice of yours.

This is quite possibly the most arrogant and self-centered post I have ever read on the pit. Just wow.

It's amazing how elitist some of you are when it comes to children. "Attention Walmart shoppers: Please muzzle your children immediately. Queen Heineken Helen has entered the store and demands total silence!"

dunkman

Jason P wrote:

I was in a Walmart in Wyoming last week and there was a kid acting nuts and got about ten warnings from his Dad before finally getting yanked over his Dad's knee and getting a stiff spanking. It shut the kid up. I saw them 15 minutes later and he was still well behaved. You usually don't see stuff like that anymore thanks to the politically correct society we live in.

The moral of the story is that people that shop at Walmart like to beat up kids . . . and buy $9.99 DVD's.

thats shocking!!! dvds are $9.99 over there!!!

nuffingman

Have I missed something? Has someone slapped a kid?

purple_chick79

What's even worse than a screamin kid is a screamin kid who has been warned "keep it up and no toy" but they keep it up AND get the toy.

Its not so much about the kid screamin, its how parents deal with it. FOLLOW THROUGH!!! Kids aren't dumb, you threaten them then don't follow through they know they can do what they want. I saw this happen at Yankee Candle and I wanted to slap the mother. My boyfriend does it all the time with his kid, threatens this or that but let's her do what she wants anyway.

Parents, its YOUR fault if the kid acts up, public or not. Thank god my 2 year old nephew knows better, one look from his Aunty and he knows what time it is.

Heatherj43

nuffingman wrote:

Have I missed something? Has someone slapped a kid?

Yeah, a strange mean looking man slapped a toddler in the face several times in a store.

Heatherj43

I agrre. Don't go out if you can't handle society.

JD Sal wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

some of us don't have kids so we don't have to deal with that shit, why should we shut up and deal with other people's shit?

Hmm, easy answer here - because you elected to venture out into a public place like Walmart and took the assumed risk that you may end up hearing some noise while you're there, possibly from a child.

Heineken Helen wrote:

If your kids have any effect on my life whatsoever, either by being loud or otherwise, I'll speak my mind and if you proceed to tell me to go fuck myself... well that may not be a wise choice of yours.

This is quite possibly the most arrogant and self-centered post I have ever read on the pit. Just wow.

It's amazing how elitist some of you are when it comes to children. "Attention Walmart shoppers: Please muzzle your children immediately. Queen Heineken Helen has entered the store and demands total silence!"

Cree Nations

I would have fucked that guy over right there. Screaming kids on planes, in malls, etc, piss me off too but I would never condone violence, whether it be name calling or aggression against the child or its parents. I have no children and hope to so Im just not use to kids screaming. Some people dont deserve kids

Heatherj43

iamica wrote:

Heatherj43 wrote:

I'm wondering if kids should not go out in public or if people who can't handle a kid crying should stay home.

I have an answer for that one...when I was a kid, my little brother (who was about 2 or 3) used to throw tantrums in stores all the time. One day, my mom had enough. She said to him, "If you throw one more tantrum while we're in here, I'm not taking you to the store for a YEAR." Sure enough, while we were there he threw a tantrum...and she kept her word. My brother wasn't allowed in any store for an entire year. He never threw a tantrum in public again.
Moral of the story...kids who are acting like that need to be taught that it's not appropriate, and they need to be disciplined.

I find that extreme. I think one should make sure when they make threats they make them reasonable and carry through. I'm surprised he knew how to act in public without being there to learn.
When my daughter was young, we'd go out to eat at a family restaurant, (did you catch the family part of the restaurant), anyway, I'd make her sit near the wall/window and me on the outside and her brother across from us. Well, instead of asking me to get out, she'd crawl underneath the table. I found it embarassing. One day, I said that if she does it again, I am going to do it too. Well, she did it and so did I. I never had that problem again. Because of that incident, my son learned I ain't kidding when I threaten. So, he got in a bad habit of doing his homework and forgetting to take it to school. In junior high, he was still doing this. I told him I would pin it on him and walk him to school if he didn't learn to do this himself. He knew I meant it and I didn't have to carry through. His homework got to school.
I also learned while raising my kids to not have the "cuz I said so additude". I learned that all I wanted was results and would do what it takes to get that. The "cuz I said so" never worked. Stern punishment doesn't either. Discipline is different. Its them learning to internalize and behave without my threats. They discipline themselves. I think that is lacking with a lot of kids. They only know what to do when their parents are there and punishing. They are loss without the parent bitching. Discipline is them directing themselves, which takes time.
My 30 yr. old daughter and I had to go to court this past Tuesday. My daughter was dressed appropriately and addressed the court mannerfully. Most people in there had not learned this, likely cuz they only were "ordered to be mannerful" and they were inappropriate and dressed in jeans and spoke to the judge using slang and just rude.
I was proud. I had taught her to do this without me.

Heatherj43

Slapping anyone in the face is wrong, even a kid. Its abuse. A spanking is not a slap in the face.

Flagg

my2hands wrote:

aNiMaL wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/02/georgia.tot.slapped/index.html

Stranger allegedly slaps crying child in store
By Gabriel Falcon
AC360° Writer


Roger Stephens allegedly slapped a stranger's crying toddler in a Walmart store in Stone Mountain, Georgia.

(CNN) -- A Georgia man allegedly slapped a toddler at a Walmart store because she wouldn't stop crying, authorities said.

Roger Stephens, 61, was arrested Monday and charged with first-degree cruelty to children. An incident report obtained from police in Gwinnett County indicated Stephens did not know the 2-year-old girl he stands accused of hitting.

The confrontation happened shortly before noon at the Walmart in Stone Mountain, a suburb of Atlanta.

According to the arresting officer, the child's mother said her daughter was crying as they walked down one of the aisles.

The mother said a stranger later identified as Stephens approached them and said, "If you don't shut the baby up, I will shut her up for you." Video Watch what the stranger said »

A few moments later, while the mother and the crying child were in another aisle, Stephens allegedly grabbed the girl and slapped her across the face.

Police said he hit her four or five times. "See, I told you I would shut her up," the suspect allegedly told the mother.

Authorities described "slight redness" to the toddler's face. Before he was arrested, Stephens apologized to the mother for striking the girl, the incident report said.

Stephens, a Stone Mountain resident, is being held by the Gwinnett County Sheriff's Department.

if anyone hit my child they would not make out out of the store

No question.

pjhawks

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norm

pjhawks wrote:

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libragirl

norm wrote:

pjhawks wrote:

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hey at least they didn't charge for the comment

PJPOWER

Looking at that dude's picture, I'm suprised the headline wasn't "Man takes a bite out of screaming kid in Walmart". On the other hand, it almost seems like some people on this board defend him...maybe they're sick in the head too. Sure no one wants to hear a kid throwing a fit, but it happens, for any number of reasons. To assume that parent is a bad parent because their kid is acting up in Wal Mart is just ignorant. Hell, I feel like throwing a fit when I go to that place too!

Heineken Helen

cropduster82 wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

cropduster82 wrote:

I have a question for you pjhawks...

It obviously bothers you to hear a child crying or screaming in a public place but, honestly now, how many times have you approached the parent and asked them to quiet their child?

I'm guessing never. You hide behind you're computer screen and say all the things you don't have the balls to say in public when they actually happen. You let it happen, then bitch about it later to someone else or on a message board of all places.

I have a kid and sometimes, yeah, he cries in public. I don't like it any more than anyone else but it happens. I deal with it and try my best to comfort him. But if someone came up to me and told me to quiet my kid, I'd tell them to go fuck themselves. You don't like it? You leave. No one is forcing you to stay.

On the one hand you ask him if he ever asks the parents to keep their kid quiet... then you go on to tell him that you'd tell him to go fuck himself if he did?????????????? Well that's just rude... wouldn't you prefer people speak their minds? You'd really be teaching your kid an example by telling a stranger to go fuck themselves.

There's a lot of 'if you don't have kids, don't tell me what to do' going on here... and then followed by telling other people how they SHOULD parent... like smacking being child abuse. Surely all parents have their own way of dealing with things... some parents can be sooooo bloody sanctimonious, it's ridiculous. Try saying 'don't tell me how to parent my kid' when they start stealing or being little bastards. If your kids have any effect on my life whatsoever, either by being loud or otherwise, I'll speak my mind and if you proceed to tell me to go fuck myself... well that may not be a wise choice of yours.

I just asked if he ever did. Then I gave my own personal response if that ever happened. Sure it's rude. Never said I wasn't. But at a stressful time like trying to quiet you're kid down, you don't need some yuppie douche to tell you what you already know. I'm sure most parents would apologize if a stranger approached them and asked them to quiet their kid. Sounds like a PC answer nowadays. I'm not most parents. I like to think I tell it like it is. I'm not at all trying to give people advice either. I simply stated what I would do. That's all. I guess we'll agree to disagree. You have a right to tell me to quiet my kid, and I have a right to tell you to go fuck yourself. End of story.

fair enough... I appreciate that... there are just so many parents who are pretty scary when it comes to defending their kids that it's not an easy thing to approach someone to ask them to do something. I think most of us ARE patient and understanding when it comes to kids crying/having a tantrum or just being kids... sometimes though you can TELL it's a result of shit parenting. Of course a kid crying is going to annoy people... most of the parents will even admit it annoys them... so be a little more understanding of other people who don't have any emotional connection to the kid, it's just an annoying noise.

Heineken Helen

Ms. Haiku wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

After a spanking I remember feeling shocked, ashamed and embarassed it came to such a silly act.

You forgot the anger and the confusion. Shocked, humiliated, angry and confused. I just got hit for what . . . ?!

I only know the I'll hit you because I can attitude of being parented.

I'm not a parent, but isn't there another way?

Again... some people forget there's a difference between a smack and a beating. I was never EVER in any doubt about why I got smacked. I was never shocked, humiliated, angry or confused... I was only sorry I got caught and I always knew it was coming. It was only if I did something really bad, like stealing, breaking something or putting my or someone elses life in danger. The worst one I got was when I was 5 and I pushed my neighbour (of the same age) into the river at the back of our house. I really needed to learn that that was incredibly serious... and it was definitely something I would never do again... would you put your kid on a step for 2 minutes in that situation? If so, then I simply have no words to describe your parenting. When you're that age you don't fully understand the consequences of your actions as I've stated before... a smack will teach you that these actions have them.

Heineken Helen

TheBeach wrote:

mrvedderson wrote:

im a parent and all you need to do is get the kids attention, if words arent doing it a smack on the mouth wont do any harm, gets the eye contact you are after. there have been many times where i wanna treat others kids like mine, but i know i cant do that. and for the stranger to feel it is their place to step in is pretty hypocritical, like saying, dont bother me when no one was even paying attention to you.

You smack your children in the mouth. You should be sitting in the cell right next to that ass that hit that little girl. I feel sorry for your children.

If someone hit my child, I would hope I was in one of the more interesting sharp aisles in the store. He wouldn't be able to hit another child again.

You people that are posting like you're sympathizing with that monster are pathetic. I hope you don't have children.

I feel sorry for you... your kids will possibly grow up to be sociopaths... yearning for SOME kinda reaction!

Wishing other people don't have kids is pretty mature of you... I'm sure you're a great parent :roll:

Heineken Helen

JD Sal wrote:

Heineken Helen wrote:

some of us don't have kids so we don't have to deal with that shit, why should we shut up and deal with other people's shit?

Hmm, easy answer here - because you elected to venture out into a public place like Walmart and took the assumed risk that you may end up hearing some noise while you're there, possibly from a child.

Heineken Helen wrote:

If your kids have any effect on my life whatsoever, either by being loud or otherwise, I'll speak my mind and if you proceed to tell me to go fuck myself... well that may not be a wise choice of yours.

This is quite possibly the most arrogant and self-centered post I have ever read on the pit. Just wow.

It's amazing how elitist some of you are when it comes to children. "Attention Walmart shoppers: Please muzzle your children immediately. Queen Heineken Helen has entered the store and demands total silence!"

see... YOU understand... thank you

How is it arrogant, elitist and self centred? People were saying we HAVE to put up with their little brats... I simply disagreed

Heineken Helen

purple_chick79 wrote:

What's even worse than a screamin kid is a screamin kid who has been warned "keep it up and no toy" but they keep it up AND get the toy.

Its not so much about the kid screamin, its how parents deal with it. FOLLOW THROUGH!!! Kids aren't dumb, you threaten them then don't follow through they know they can do what they want. I saw this happen at Yankee Candle and I wanted to slap the mother. My boyfriend does it all the time with his kid, threatens this or that but let's her do what she wants anyway.

Parents, its YOUR fault if the kid acts up, public or not. Thank god my 2 year old nephew knows better, one look from his Aunty and he knows what time it is.

Lol, I had THAT look to my niece too. Worked EVERY SINGLE time. I never laid a finger on her or did anything bad to her so I never knew what she thought that look meant... it still works on her now, even though she's 14. Although it even works on my boyfriend so maybe I have a naturally scary face

My sister and I used to laugh about 'the look' though cos she did it too. Seriously though, if nothing ever comes from the look why are kids so scared of it? It's fantastic!