Ten club pairs at the shows- observation

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  • if you want to see pairs of women at a show just go to a K D Lang concert. :lol:
  • Lauri
    Lauri Posts: 748
    DewieCox wrote:
    Not trying to make generalizations, but from my perspective there just seem to be more male rock music fans in general.

    If this is true, which is what a lot of people are saying, does anyone have an opinion or idea as to why this might be the case?

    Going back to relating it to the women in math & sciences thing, there are a lot of theories as to why this is the case, mostly cultural, some claims that women and men think with different parts of the brain, etc. I would be extremely interested to hear the cultural reasons women might be the minority of rock fans.
  • Hinn
    Hinn Posts: 1,517
    Maybe it's a European/English thing, maybe it's just me, but...

    I seem to have a lot more female PJ fan mates than male ones.
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Lauri wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    Not trying to make generalizations, but from my perspective there just seem to be more male rock music fans in general.

    If this is true, which is what a lot of people are saying, does anyone have an opinion or idea as to why this might be the case?

    Going back to relating it to the women in math & sciences thing, there are a lot of theories as to why this is the case, mostly cultural, some claims that women and men think with different parts of the brain, etc. I would be extremely interested to hear the cultural reasons women might be the minority of rock fans.

    I'd guess that it may have somethin to do with boys being less mature and holding onto their "childish" hobbies longer, and into adulthood, where it just becomes part of the "daily grind".
  • Evergreen
    Evergreen Posts: 492
    DewieCox wrote:
    Lauri wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    Not trying to make generalizations, but from my perspective there just seem to be more male rock music fans in general.

    If this is true, which is what a lot of people are saying, does anyone have an opinion or idea as to why this might be the case?

    Going back to relating it to the women in math & sciences thing, there are a lot of theories as to why this is the case, mostly cultural, some claims that women and men think with different parts of the brain, etc. I would be extremely interested to hear the cultural reasons women might be the minority of rock fans.

    I'd guess that it may have somethin to do with boys being less mature and holding onto their "childish" hobbies longer, and into adulthood, where it just becomes part of the "daily grind".


    How can holding onto something that moves you be a bad thing? Or childish?
  • DewieCox wrote:
    Lauri wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    Not trying to make generalizations, but from my perspective there just seem to be more male rock music fans in general.

    If this is true, which is what a lot of people are saying, does anyone have an opinion or idea as to why this might be the case?

    Going back to relating it to the women in math & sciences thing, there are a lot of theories as to why this is the case, mostly cultural, some claims that women and men think with different parts of the brain, etc. I would be extremely interested to hear the cultural reasons women might be the minority of rock fans.

    I'd guess that it may have somethin to do with boys being less mature and holding onto their "childish" hobbies longer, and into adulthood, where it just becomes part of the "daily grind".

    go to a Bon Jovi concert. lots of 30/40 year old women there. i think it's more about the individual band than the entire genre of rock n roll
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    How can holding onto something that moves you be a bad thing? Or childish?

    THAT is beyond me.
  • peacegirl
    peacegirl Posts: 841
    81 wrote:
    because guys will go to a concert with a buddy. chicks are needy and need a guy to take them.

    and when was the last time you saw a girl go solo to a show??? never? yet guys go solo all the time. why, cause we got some.....balls. :lol:

    I almost always go to shows solo and actually kind of prefer it that way
  • mrpink90
    mrpink90 Posts: 415
    haha I love how the women here are getting all defensive

    most girls dont go to concerts alone

    "thats not true i go alone!"

    most girls arent fans of rock music

    "thats not true me and my friends love rock!"


    well duh, of course theres exceptions to every rule, you wouldnt be here if you didnt love rock music and pearl jam. But think about it this way: whats the ratio of men to women on this message board? 10 to 1?

    Guys are much more simpler than girls, especially when it comes to music. You ask white guys (and 99% of pj fans are white, except for dennis rodman haha) what kinda music they like, and the vast majority are gonna say rock. You ask girls that same question and i guarantee you'll get a much broader answer (r&b, dance, pop, rock, etc)

    How many girls you see going alone to sporting events? or girls going together to sporting events? Not many, simply because theres far more guys into sports than girls, similar to rock music (but probably to a lesser extent with the rock music)

    And most girls are not gonna go to any kind of concert or major event by themselves, theres no denying that. My gf loves music but had been to like 2 concerts before we met (blink 182), since we've been together we've seen pj a couple times, bruce a couple times, black crowes, foo fighters, etc. She'd never think to go to a concert alone (like most girls), whereas i drove 4 hours to reading pa to see pj solo on the vote for change tour. Who knows whether its a safety thing or a "needy" thing, but its definitely the truth.
  • theboxerorthebag
    theboxerorthebag Posts: 1,774
    edited August 2009
    I am just stating what i know from what I like and what my friends like. I have many female friends who don't think twice about going to concerts alone if they want to. I just really don't like these comments like "Who knows whether its a safety thing or a "needy" thing, but its definitely the truth ." Maybe those are the type of women you know but not me.
    mrpink90 wrote:
    haha I love how the women here are getting all defensive

    most girls dont go to concerts alone

    "thats not true i go alone!"

    most girls arent fans of rock music

    "thats not true me and my friends love rock!"


    well duh, of course theres exceptions to every rule, you wouldnt be here if you didnt love rock music and pearl jam. But think about it this way: whats the ratio of men to women on this message board? 10 to 1?

    Guys are much more simpler than girls, especially when it comes to music. You ask white guys (and 99% of pj fans are white, except for dennis rodman haha) what kinda music they like, and the vast majority are gonna say rock. You ask girls that same question and i guarantee you'll get a much broader answer (r&b, dance, pop, rock, etc)

    How many girls you see going alone to sporting events? or girls going together to sporting events? Not many, simply because theres far more guys into sports than girls, similar to rock music (but probably to a lesser extent with the rock music)

    And most girls are not gonna go to any kind of concert or major event by themselves, theres no denying that. My gf loves music but had been to like 2 concerts before we met (blink 182), since we've been together we've seen pj a couple times, bruce a couple times, black crowes, foo fighters, etc. She'd never think to go to a concert alone (like most girls), whereas i drove 4 hours to reading pa to see pj solo on the vote for change tour. Who knows whether its a safety thing or a "needy" thing, but its definitely the truth.
  • mrpink90
    mrpink90 Posts: 415
    If this is true, which is what a lot of people are saying, does anyone have an opinion or idea as to why this might be the case?

    Going back to relating it to the women in math & sciences thing, there are a lot of theories as to why this is the case, mostly cultural, some claims that women and men think with different parts of the brain, etc. I would be extremely interested to hear the cultural reasons women might be the minority of rock fans.[/quote]

    I'd guess that it may have somethin to do with boys being less mature and holding onto their "childish" hobbies longer, and into adulthood, where it just becomes part of the "daily grind".[/quote]

    go to a Bon Jovi concert. lots of 30/40 year old women there. i think it's more about the individual band than the entire genre of rock n roll[/quote]


    Thats true, im sure most of those 80s hair bands get alot more chicks at their shows than pearl jam or any of the other 90s alternative bands. Its gotta be becuase those 80s bands were all about the hair and the sex appeal and looking good and it appealed more to women?? That sounds very shallow but i cant think of another reason, it cant be because the music is better! Lets see, would I rather hear Unskinny Bop or Present Tense, tough choice haha
  • mrpink90
    mrpink90 Posts: 415
    I am just stating what i know from what I like and what my friends like. I have many female friends who don't think twice about going to concerts alone if they want to. I just really don't like these comments like "Who knows whether its a safety thing or a "needy" thing, but its definitely the truth ." Maybe those are the type of women you know but not me.




    But it is the truth because thats how this thread got started.....when you go to a concert or sporting event how many girls do you see there alone? Yes you go alone....yes some of your friends go alone...yes the women on here go alone cuz they are hardcore pearl jam fans.....but you are in the VAST minority of females who go to concerts alone. If you dont believe me just look around next time your at a pj concert and see how many girls are there alone, the # will be tiny
  • Evergreen
    Evergreen Posts: 492
    edited August 2009
    mrpink90 wrote:
    If this is true, which is what a lot of people are saying, does anyone have an opinion or idea as to why this might be the case?

    Going back to relating it to the women in math & sciences thing, there are a lot of theories as to why this is the case, mostly cultural, some claims that women and men think with different parts of the brain, etc. I would be extremely interested to hear the cultural reasons women might be the minority of rock fans.
    I'd guess that it may have somethin to do with boys being less mature and holding onto their "childish" hobbies longer, and into adulthood, where it just becomes part of the "daily grind".
    go to a Bon Jovi concert. lots of 30/40 year old women there. i think it's more about the individual band than the entire genre of rock n roll

    Thats true, im sure most of those 80s hair bands get alot more chicks at their shows than pearl jam or any of the other 90s alternative bands. Its gotta be becuase those 80s bands were all about the hair and the sex appeal and looking good and it appealed more to women?? That sounds very shallow but i cant think of another reason, it cant be because the music is better! Lets see, would I rather hear Unskinny Bop or Present Tense, tough choice haha



    I totally disagree with that! I skipped the 80s all together. Went straight from classic rock to PJ and The Black Crowes in 1990. :D

    To this day I don't listen to any from then...well, GnR was about the only, and Bon Jovi makes me want to gouge my eyes and hears out.

    Thank God for local bands in the 80's...I had friends in The Rugburns. lol!
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  • peacegirl
    peacegirl Posts: 841
    mrpink90 wrote:
    haha I love how the women here are getting all defensive

    most girls dont go to concerts alone

    "thats not true i go alone!"

    I wasn't being defensive...just saying
    I know most girls wouldn't and don't go to shows alone and I know that those of us that do are the minority
    and it actually seems to me that anyone that goes alone seems to be in the minority
  • Mamasan23
    Mamasan23 Posts: 16,390
    Because women don't know how to ROCK!!

    awaits flames :P

    :o

    In a few weeks I'll be at the Down show with two other females. We can rock harder than 99% of the men I know!
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,410
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    You think Pearl Jam concerts are sausage fests...You should see a WHO concert!!!

    Go see Joe Satriani....you won't see any women. Not one. I guess they have more sense. :mrgreen:
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  • mrpink90
    mrpink90 Posts: 415
    a little off topic, but i remember reading a matt cameron quote after the '98 tour, he was asked the biggest difference between a soundgarden crowd and a pearl jam crowd and he said "theres a lot more white people at pearl jam" haha
  • mrpink90 wrote:
    a little off topic, but i remember reading a matt cameron quote after the '98 tour, he was asked the biggest difference between a soundgarden crowd and a pearl jam crowd and he said "theres a lot more white people at pearl jam" haha


    yep, we're a bunch of WMA's at PJ shows.
  • So of this 10% female population, how many would you consider physically attractive? I would like to see someone answer that honestly.
  • Evergreen
    Evergreen Posts: 492
    So of this 10% female population, how many would you consider physically attractive? I would like to see someone answer that honestly.



    nice.