Question...
how much more money do you earn now compared to what you did 6 years ago, or 10 years ago???
How much more has your cost of living gone up in this time??? Gas food etc???
prices go up! deal with it. i earn an ok wage, and how i see it is that i am shelling out no more than 4 hours work after tax to see a show! i am happy with that. it is not fucking 1994 any more, get with the times!
And see my earlier post about ticket prices in other countries and see how well you get it! With cheap enough flights, i only works out maybe $2 or 300 to do 10 shows in the US rather than 10 shows down here in Australia. that is no joke!!!
Any arena act here you are looking at a minumum of $100 AUD - about $80 USD
Pink, love her or hate her SOLD OUT A 58 ARENA SHOW TOUR!!! in Australia that is MASSIVE, cheapest tickets $100 AUD upto $130 AUD 58 shows in a country of 20 million, and where a big arena tour would be 10 shows across the country. we deal with these prices, they are the norm.
the other thing to take into account with some of the cheaper arena prices that have been thrown around here are, how long do they play for? do they play for 2-2.5 hours night after night? are they any good live, are they better than pj live???? Do they give as much money to charity as pj??????
if you dont like the prices, then dont pay them, dont go to the show! simple!
how does Radiohead manage to give their CD away, and still keep tickets around $50? NIN did it too. I'd even argue that as of right now, Radiohead is even more relevant than Pearl Jam so you could see if they were charging $83 a ticket- but they don't. I guess they don't need to be paid all that much, they make a ton of money as it is, and do it because they love it and not get paid. I loved when Pearl Jam was like that.
plus, I kind of think it's a dick move to charge more for tickets than you ever have in your whole career when you know that the nation is struggling with job loss and fear of job loss. .
another good point. lol!
i already said this but i'll say it again........there's other ways for bands to make money without setting ticket prices high.
The big question is: Is there anything we can do? Or should do?
Should we all send emails to the tenclub saying ticket prices are too high?
Who knows, even if they don't lower prices on future shows, maybe it would at least draw out an official response.
screw writting. stop buying tickets! boycott
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I don’t quite get this supply and demand thing. Concert tickets are not like gas. There’s a set number seats in a venue. The number of seats is not going to change.
When it comes to tickets, supply and demand means ‘how much will these dumb people be willing to fork out?’ Ticket prices will keep growing because people WILL fork out anything. TM knows this……they aren’t dumb. What’s dumb is people are willing to buy these outrageously priced tickets. So keep feeding the beast people!
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the price of living has gone up. but has min wage? ticket prices have doubled in 10 years. has min wage? hell no.
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Maybe Radiohead and NIN charge less for their tickets because both bands suck.
Just my opinion
Lets face it - basically every ticket to a concert is overpriced today. IM not going to complain with the prices for this tour because i dont think they are overpriced when compared to the bulk of other concerts in todays market - excluding of course local club shows that are often around 20 bucks. Do I wish PJ tickets were cheaper? Absolutely - DO I wish I didnt have to pay so much for gas and over 4 dollars for a gallon of milk? Absolutely.
The concept that they should charge less because of the economy is stupid - nothing else has gone down in price because of the economy. IF anything a lot of things have increased as companies try to stay afloat.
no they're not dude. what about if you were still in high school? $90 is pretty expensive.
And you know I do feel for u.....but again relatively speaking for entertainment and comparing to what MOST other bands charge its a good value/price. I made minimum wage when in high school and just made it work getting concert tickets.
no they're not dude. what about if you were still in high school? $90 is pretty expensive.
And you know I do feel for u.....but again relatively speaking for entertainment and comparing to what MOST other bands charge its a good value/price. I made minimum wage when in high school and just made it work getting concert tickets.
No, I'm not in high school. I'm just saying that for those that are, that's a lot of money. But when I was in high school, I, like you, made minimum wage and "made it work getting concert tickets" because Pearl Jam tickets were $30 back then.
What’s absurd is if people didn’t question anything and went along like blind sleep to everything in their life.
I think Ed would appreciate that, if I do say so myself.
Dude pj ticket prices are inexpensive period. Do feel for those that don't have the funds.....but don't bitch about 20 bucks .....worthless wining.
Think Ed would think wtf!!!
Fucking ignorant, elitist bullshit. I make more than enough to pay for the tickets these days. In fact, I didn't even give it too much of a thought when they raised the prices, but then again I'm not a dad working at a gas station and trying to bring my son to a show either. When it costs less to see Springsteen in the same arena, for more than half the seats, I call bullshit.
Buh, buh, buh, their teh bestest, OMG they play for 2.5hours. Radiohead suxors. Fuck that. It's bullshit and you know it. Fucking big show, pyrotechnic, money-grubbing Metallica tickets are less.
And I know, before you say well don't go to the shows then, it's not a black and white issue. I love this band and I will still enjoy their music and most of what they stand for, I will still go to the shows, I will still buy their music, but I will also think that on the topic of ticket prices they are full of shit. Shades of gray.
I have no problem telling good friends and loved ones they're full of shit when they are. In this case, my favorite band is.
It's not that the times have changed, it's that the principles have.
name something that's doubled price in about 10 years.
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Fucking ignorant, elitist bullshit. I make more than enough to pay for the tickets these days. In fact, I didn't even give it too much of a thought when they raised the prices, but then again I'm not a dad working at a gas station and trying to bring my son to a show either. When it costs less to see Springsteen in the same arena, for more than half the seats, I call bullshit.
It's not that the times have changed, it's that the principles have.
Elitist ……… exactly. That’s what concerts are soon to be. An elitist way to rub people’s noses in it, when other people can’t afford the tickets. Soon only the rich will be able to go to a live show.
Blind sleep or elitist are what these people are.
Fuck em. I don’t want to be in the same concert venue with them anyway.
I move frequently, so I cannot speak to a number of items, but I can tell you that my property taxes on my current home have gone up about 40% in four years. The television bill is much higher now than it was when I signed up for DirecTV seven or eight years ago. The price of heating oil doubled in two or three years, and I believe the cost of natural gas has skyrocketed, too.
Thanks for answering. It was a honest question I had.
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i already said this but i'll say it again........there's other ways for bands to make money without setting ticket prices high.
like selling posters, socks, skateboards, zippos, $150 books, tote bags or anything else they can slap a PJ logo on and call limited edition for the people on here to buy? or like signing deals with Verizon?
like selling posters, socks, skateboards, zippos, $150 books, tote bags or anything else they can slap a PJ logo on and call limited edition for the people on here to buy? or like signing deals with Verizon?
correct-a-mundo.
and i wouldn't call them sellouts if they did. ......anything to help keep ticket prices low.
*~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*
like selling posters, socks, skateboards, zippos, $150 books, tote bags or anything else they can slap a PJ logo on and call limited edition for the people on here to buy? or like signing deals with Verizon?
correct-a-mundo.
if they closed down the Pearl Jam "Limited Edition" Trinket store tickets would be like $2500 a pop
...and there would still be people on here arguing why that is a reasonable price and we are all just lucky the band is touring.
I see these type of threads on here all the time and I don't really understand what the big deal is. Let me start by saying that I make an average but comfortable income. Throughout the year I spend tens of thousands of dollars on things that I need and things that I want. Being single I am probably less conservative than other people but I am very responsible. I do things like go to bars, date women, attend sporting events, attend non-pearl jam concerts, rarely hit a casino and do other random activities. All of the listed activities have come up short in the value department at one time or another unlike attending a pj show in my ten club seats. I think attending events and having the best seats is valuable and ten club tickets would have to be more than they are now to be severely overpriced. Typically event tickets vary in extreme amounts depending on seat location so arguably our seats should be more and the nose bleed seats should be less. I think people also tend to exaggerate about pj's prices and pj's prices compared to other acts. Yeah PJ is not the cheapest act around anymore. If they are slightly overpriced who cares? I have always thought stealing your favorite artists music was bullshit. In the big picture is that going to make or break someone? I pay what I feel is too much for things all of the time. For someone who is not gainfully employed the tickets would be a struggle if they were 50% less. I am sypathetic to those members that get shut out on tickets. I hope that they can improve or correct that but in the bigger markets the ten club probably could sell all of the available tickets but could they manage all that? And getting off topic if the band does something different does everybody have to freak out? Music is art and PJ has a huge catalog. Every song is not going to be your favorite . PJ is not AC/DC. In my opinion they have not made a shitty album yet. Sorry to go on for so long but I have pretty much been on here since day one and it has never been like it is now. Things don't seem all that bad to me.
The big question is: Is there anything we can do? Or should do?
Should we all send emails to the tenclub saying ticket prices are too high?
Who knows, even if they don't lower prices on future shows, maybe it would at least draw out an official response.
I think all we can do (and should do) is air our grievances on the message board. It's not like they're not aware that many of their devoted fans think they've got the Green Disease.
I've been mulling over this myself. I don't think the answer is writing to 10c or Kelly Curtis. Band management doesn't give a shit what we think, as they're just doing their job...managing a band and looking for profits. That's the bottom line for any business. The goal is to get our message across to the band themselves. Write letters to all the members, even if the letter may never land in their hands. This is the only solution I can come up that's positive.
Bottom line though is that all the speculation in the world as to why PJ does what it does is ultimately pointless, yet can be entertaining reading. The band used to talk. They used their stance on issues to speak to the public, speak to their fans. They *could* speak now. Why aren't they?
I see these type of threads on here all the time and I don't really understand what the big deal is. Let me start by saying that I make an average but comfortable income. Throughout the year I spend tens of thousands of dollars on things that I need and things that I want. Being single I am probably less conservative than other people but I am very responsible. I do things like go to bars, date women, attend sporting events, attend non-pearl jam concerts, rarely hit a casino and do other random activities. All of the listed activities have come up short in the value department at one time or another unlike attending a pj show in my ten club seats. I think attending events and having the best seats is valuable and ten club tickets would have to be more than they are now to be severely overpriced. Typically event tickets vary in extreme amounts depending on seat location so arguably our seats should be more and the nose bleed seats should be less. I think people also tend to exaggerate about pj's prices and pj's prices compared to other acts. Yeah PJ is not the cheapest act around anymore. If they are slightly overpriced who cares? I have always thought stealing your favorite artists music was bullshit. In the big picture is that going to make or break someone? I pay what I feel is too much for things all of the time. For someone who is not gainfully employed the tickets would be a struggle if they were 50% less. I am sypathetic to those members that get shut out on tickets. I hope that they can improve or correct that but in the bigger markets the ten club probably could sell all of the available tickets but could they manage all that? And getting off topic if the band does something different does everybody have to freak out? Music is art and PJ has a huge catalog. Every song is not going to be your favorite . PJ is not AC/DC. In my opinion they have not made a shitty album yet. Sorry to go on for so long but I have pretty much been on here since day one and it has never been like it is now. Things don't seem all that bad to me.
the only reason that I hold Pearl Jam to different standards is because they went around most of the 90's when they were at their peak being a voice for the fans against high ticket prices. They even did so much as to not play venues over a stupid $5 fee from Ticketmaster. Now, all that is thrown out the window. They aren't the same band. They see that their fanbase is now older with more money so they throw out the things they built that fanbase with and see them as a way of extorting more money. That's the difference. Everyone knows KISS is greedy so when they have expensive tickets, you expect it. Pearl Jam has been preaching the anti-greed, and there is more to life than money bullshit for 15 years and everything they have done over the last 3 has proven otherwise. That is why I have a problem with it. I still enjoy their music, just question their motives at this point in their careers. I used to go to the show feeling part of aa group who was appreciated as something more than a sold ticket, now I don't know what to think
the only reason that I hold Pearl Jam to different standards is because they went around most of the 90's when they were at their peak being a voice for the fans against high ticket prices. They even did so much as to not play venues over a stupid $5 fee from Ticketmaster. Now, all that is thrown out the window. They aren't the same band. They see that their fanbase is now older with more money so they throw out the things they built that fanbase with and see them as a way of extorting more money. That's the difference. Everyone knows KISS is greedy so when they have expensive tickets, you expect it. Pearl Jam has been preaching the anti-greed, and there is more to life than money bullshit for 15 years and everything they have done over the last 3 has proven otherwise. That is why I have a problem with it. I still enjoy their music, just question their motives at this point in their careers. I used to go to the show feeling part of aa group who was appreciated as something more than a sold ticket, now I don't know what to think[/quote]
You really are right and I feel the same way but their stand in the 90's cost them $$$ not us. If you remember none of the other bands would join the fight. Unfortunately PJ is not that high priced relative to other acts. You also have to realize that Pearl Jam is a group that knows the value of choosing a theme or direction besides music and sticking with it. These ideals can be subject to change. Just remember Pearl Jam is great and at the end of the day they do some good in the world.
Fucking ignorant, elitist bullshit. I make more than enough to pay for the tickets these days. In fact, I didn't even give it too much of a thought when they raised the prices, but then again I'm not a dad working at a gas station and trying to bring my son to a show either. When it costs less to see Springsteen in the same arena, for more than half the seats, I call bullshit.
It's not that the times have changed, it's that the principles have.
Elitist ……… exactly. That’s what concerts are soon to be. An elitist way to rub people’s noses in it, when other people can’t afford the tickets. Soon only the rich will be able to go to a live show.
Blind sleep or elitist are what these people are.
Fuck em. I don’t want to be in the same concert venue with them anyway.
I don't think it's completely elitist. I do think that management is focusing on the most lucrative way to make big money, and that's focusing on certain target markets. Taking advantage of the young ("we're looking to broaden our audience") by sucking them in with a trendy Target commercial and an upbeat pop release. Pathetic.
Don't know about anyone else, but I have been a 10C member for longer than I can remember and was not able to get Philly tix through 10C (and I live in Philly) ~ had to purchase them from Comcast tix and I got the worse seats imaginable, but am certainly not complaining about prices, I am just grateful I will be able to see the best band in the world once again in my hometown. I am so looking forward to it but really wish I could have gotten tix through 10C ~ such is life! My final ticket price, BTW, was $188 and I will be sitting in the nosebleed section!!!!!!!! :?
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how much more money do you earn now compared to what you did 6 years ago, or 10 years ago???
How much more has your cost of living gone up in this time??? Gas food etc???
prices go up! deal with it. i earn an ok wage, and how i see it is that i am shelling out no more than 4 hours work after tax to see a show! i am happy with that. it is not fucking 1994 any more, get with the times!
And see my earlier post about ticket prices in other countries and see how well you get it! With cheap enough flights, i only works out maybe $2 or 300 to do 10 shows in the US rather than 10 shows down here in Australia. that is no joke!!!
Any arena act here you are looking at a minumum of $100 AUD - about $80 USD
Pink, love her or hate her SOLD OUT A 58 ARENA SHOW TOUR!!! in Australia that is MASSIVE, cheapest tickets $100 AUD upto $130 AUD 58 shows in a country of 20 million, and where a big arena tour would be 10 shows across the country. we deal with these prices, they are the norm.
the other thing to take into account with some of the cheaper arena prices that have been thrown around here are, how long do they play for? do they play for 2-2.5 hours night after night? are they any good live, are they better than pj live???? Do they give as much money to charity as pj??????
if you dont like the prices, then dont pay them, dont go to the show! simple!
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good point.
another good point. lol!
i already said this but i'll say it again........there's other ways for bands to make money without setting ticket prices high.
screw writting. stop buying tickets! boycott
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I don’t quite get this supply and demand thing. Concert tickets are not like gas. There’s a set number seats in a venue. The number of seats is not going to change.
When it comes to tickets, supply and demand means ‘how much will these dumb people be willing to fork out?’ Ticket prices will keep growing because people WILL fork out anything. TM knows this……they aren’t dumb. What’s dumb is people are willing to buy these outrageously priced tickets. So keep feeding the beast people!
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the price of living has gone up. but has min wage? ticket prices have doubled in 10 years. has min wage? hell no.
I think Ed would appreciate that, if I do say so myself.
that's what it takes to be a REAL Pearl Jam fan.
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Dude pj ticket prices are inexpensive period. Do feel for those that don't have the funds.....but don't bitch about 20 bucks .....worthless wining.
Think Ed would think wtf!!!
Just my opinion
Lets face it - basically every ticket to a concert is overpriced today. IM not going to complain with the prices for this tour because i dont think they are overpriced when compared to the bulk of other concerts in todays market - excluding of course local club shows that are often around 20 bucks. Do I wish PJ tickets were cheaper? Absolutely - DO I wish I didnt have to pay so much for gas and over 4 dollars for a gallon of milk? Absolutely.
The concept that they should charge less because of the economy is stupid - nothing else has gone down in price because of the economy. IF anything a lot of things have increased as companies try to stay afloat.
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no they're not dude. what about if you were still in high school? $90 is pretty expensive.
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as the late, great Buddy Rich would say, "Your opinion is WRONG"
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Apparently so.
pj tickets are $20???
yeah, yeah, you're talking about the $20 jump. but add on $20 every tour. yikes.
And you know I do feel for u.....but again relatively speaking for entertainment and comparing to what MOST other bands charge its a good value/price. I made minimum wage when in high school and just made it work getting concert tickets.
No, I'm not in high school. I'm just saying that for those that are, that's a lot of money. But when I was in high school, I, like you, made minimum wage and "made it work getting concert tickets" because Pearl Jam tickets were $30 back then.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
More like 6 years.. fanclub tickets to the Spectrum show in 2003 were $40.50 and this year tickets were $83.50.
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well sorry, i'm going off what rolling stone said. http://www.ivykennedy.com/trash/RS7.09.htm
but you get my point.
name something that's doubled price in about 10 years.
Fucking ignorant, elitist bullshit. I make more than enough to pay for the tickets these days. In fact, I didn't even give it too much of a thought when they raised the prices, but then again I'm not a dad working at a gas station and trying to bring my son to a show either. When it costs less to see Springsteen in the same arena, for more than half the seats, I call bullshit.
Buh, buh, buh, their teh bestest, OMG they play for 2.5hours. Radiohead suxors. Fuck that. It's bullshit and you know it. Fucking big show, pyrotechnic, money-grubbing Metallica tickets are less.
And I know, before you say well don't go to the shows then, it's not a black and white issue. I love this band and I will still enjoy their music and most of what they stand for, I will still go to the shows, I will still buy their music, but I will also think that on the topic of ticket prices they are full of shit. Shades of gray.
I have no problem telling good friends and loved ones they're full of shit when they are. In this case, my favorite band is.
It's not that the times have changed, it's that the principles have.
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gasoline; milk; real estate;
I move frequently, so I cannot speak to a number of items, but I can tell you that my property taxes on my current home have gone up about 40% in four years. The television bill is much higher now than it was when I signed up for DirecTV seven or eight years ago. The price of heating oil doubled in two or three years, and I believe the cost of natural gas has skyrocketed, too.
Elitist ……… exactly. That’s what concerts are soon to be. An elitist way to rub people’s noses in it, when other people can’t afford the tickets. Soon only the rich will be able to go to a live show.
Blind sleep or elitist are what these people are.
Fuck em. I don’t want to be in the same concert venue with them anyway.
Thanks for answering. It was a honest question I had.
like selling posters, socks, skateboards, zippos, $150 books, tote bags or anything else they can slap a PJ logo on and call limited edition for the people on here to buy? or like signing deals with Verizon?
correct-a-mundo.
and i wouldn't call them sellouts if they did. ......anything to help keep ticket prices low.
if they closed down the Pearl Jam "Limited Edition" Trinket store tickets would be like $2500 a pop
...and there would still be people on here arguing why that is a reasonable price and we are all just lucky the band is touring.
probably would be. lol!
Bottom line though is that all the speculation in the world as to why PJ does what it does is ultimately pointless, yet can be entertaining reading.
the only reason that I hold Pearl Jam to different standards is because they went around most of the 90's when they were at their peak being a voice for the fans against high ticket prices. They even did so much as to not play venues over a stupid $5 fee from Ticketmaster. Now, all that is thrown out the window. They aren't the same band. They see that their fanbase is now older with more money so they throw out the things they built that fanbase with and see them as a way of extorting more money. That's the difference. Everyone knows KISS is greedy so when they have expensive tickets, you expect it. Pearl Jam has been preaching the anti-greed, and there is more to life than money bullshit for 15 years and everything they have done over the last 3 has proven otherwise. That is why I have a problem with it. I still enjoy their music, just question their motives at this point in their careers. I used to go to the show feeling part of aa group who was appreciated as something more than a sold ticket, now I don't know what to think
'people change'
blahhhh :roll:
You really are right and I feel the same way but their stand in the 90's cost them $$$ not us. If you remember none of the other bands would join the fight. Unfortunately PJ is not that high priced relative to other acts. You also have to realize that Pearl Jam is a group that knows the value of choosing a theme or direction besides music and sticking with it. These ideals can be subject to change. Just remember Pearl Jam is great and at the end of the day they do some good in the world.