For those complaining about ticket prices

blondieblue227

thunderDAN wrote:

like selling posters, socks, skateboards, zippos, $150 books, tote bags or anything else they can slap a PJ logo on and call limited edition for the people on here to buy? or like signing deals with Verizon?

correct-a-mundo.

and i wouldn't call them sellouts if they did. ......anything to help keep ticket prices low.

thunderDAN

blondieblue227 wrote:

thunderDAN wrote:

like selling posters, socks, skateboards, zippos, $150 books, tote bags or anything else they can slap a PJ logo on and call limited edition for the people on here to buy? or like signing deals with Verizon?

correct-a-mundo.

if they closed down the Pearl Jam "Limited Edition" Trinket store tickets would be like $2500 a pop

...and there would still be people on here arguing why that is a reasonable price and we are all just lucky the band is touring.

lostdogs77

I see these type of threads on here all the time and I don't really understand what the big deal is. Let me start by saying that I make an average but comfortable income. Throughout the year I spend tens of thousands of dollars on things that I need and things that I want. Being single I am probably less conservative than other people but I am very responsible. I do things like go to bars, date women, attend sporting events, attend non-pearl jam concerts, rarely hit a casino and do other random activities. All of the listed activities have come up short in the value department at one time or another unlike attending a pj show in my ten club seats. I think attending events and having the best seats is valuable and ten club tickets would have to be more than they are now to be severely overpriced. Typically event tickets vary in extreme amounts depending on seat location so arguably our seats should be more and the nose bleed seats should be less. I think people also tend to exaggerate about pj's prices and pj's prices compared to other acts. Yeah PJ is not the cheapest act around anymore. If they are slightly overpriced who cares? I have always thought stealing your favorite artists music was bullshit. In the big picture is that going to make or break someone? I pay what I feel is too much for things all of the time. For someone who is not gainfully employed the tickets would be a struggle if they were 50% less. I am sypathetic to those members that get shut out on tickets. I hope that they can improve or correct that but in the bigger markets the ten club probably could sell all of the available tickets but could they manage all that? And getting off topic if the band does something different does everybody have to freak out? Music is art and PJ has a huge catalog. Every song is not going to be your favorite . PJ is not AC/DC. In my opinion they have not made a shitty album yet. Sorry to go on for so long but I have pretty much been on here since day one and it has never been like it is now. Things don't seem all that bad to me.

blondieblue227

thunderDAN wrote:

if they closed down the Pearl Jam "Limited Edition" Trinket store tickets would be like $2500 a pop

...and there would still be people on here arguing why that is a reasonable price and we are all just lucky the band is touring.

probably would be. lol!

Jeanwah

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Wolf At Bay wrote:

The big question is: Is there anything we can do? Or should do?
Should we all send emails to the tenclub saying ticket prices are too high?
Who knows, even if they don't lower prices on future shows, maybe it would at least draw out an official response.

I think all we can do (and should do) is air our grievances on the message board. It's not like they're not aware that many of their devoted fans think they've got the Green Disease.

I've been mulling over this myself. I don't think the answer is writing to 10c or Kelly Curtis. Band management doesn't give a shit what we think, as they're just doing their job...managing a band and looking for profits. That's the bottom line for any business. The goal is to get our message across to the band themselves. Write letters to all the members, even if the letter may never land in their hands. This is the only solution I can come up that's positive.

Bottom line though is that all the speculation in the world as to why PJ does what it does is ultimately pointless, yet can be entertaining reading. The band used to talk. They used their stance on issues to speak to the public, speak to their fans. They *could* speak now. Why aren't they?

thunderDAN

lostdogs77 wrote:

I see these type of threads on here all the time and I don't really understand what the big deal is. Let me start by saying that I make an average but comfortable income. Throughout the year I spend tens of thousands of dollars on things that I need and things that I want. Being single I am probably less conservative than other people but I am very responsible. I do things like go to bars, date women, attend sporting events, attend non-pearl jam concerts, rarely hit a casino and do other random activities. All of the listed activities have come up short in the value department at one time or another unlike attending a pj show in my ten club seats. I think attending events and having the best seats is valuable and ten club tickets would have to be more than they are now to be severely overpriced. Typically event tickets vary in extreme amounts depending on seat location so arguably our seats should be more and the nose bleed seats should be less. I think people also tend to exaggerate about pj's prices and pj's prices compared to other acts. Yeah PJ is not the cheapest act around anymore. If they are slightly overpriced who cares? I have always thought stealing your favorite artists music was bullshit. In the big picture is that going to make or break someone? I pay what I feel is too much for things all of the time. For someone who is not gainfully employed the tickets would be a struggle if they were 50% less. I am sypathetic to those members that get shut out on tickets. I hope that they can improve or correct that but in the bigger markets the ten club probably could sell all of the available tickets but could they manage all that? And getting off topic if the band does something different does everybody have to freak out? Music is art and PJ has a huge catalog. Every song is not going to be your favorite . PJ is not AC/DC. In my opinion they have not made a shitty album yet. Sorry to go on for so long but I have pretty much been on here since day one and it has never been like it is now. Things don't seem all that bad to me.

the only reason that I hold Pearl Jam to different standards is because they went around most of the 90's when they were at their peak being a voice for the fans against high ticket prices. They even did so much as to not play venues over a stupid $5 fee from Ticketmaster. Now, all that is thrown out the window. They aren't the same band. They see that their fanbase is now older with more money so they throw out the things they built that fanbase with and see them as a way of extorting more money. That's the difference. Everyone knows KISS is greedy so when they have expensive tickets, you expect it. Pearl Jam has been preaching the anti-greed, and there is more to life than money bullshit for 15 years and everything they have done over the last 3 has proven otherwise. That is why I have a problem with it. I still enjoy their music, just question their motives at this point in their careers. I used to go to the show feeling part of aa group who was appreciated as something more than a sold ticket, now I don't know what to think

blondieblue227

:? oh dan you know the answer you're gonna get for that.........

'people change'


blahhhh :roll:

lostdogs77

the only reason that I hold Pearl Jam to different standards is because they went around most of the 90's when they were at their peak being a voice for the fans against high ticket prices. They even did so much as to not play venues over a stupid $5 fee from Ticketmaster. Now, all that is thrown out the window. They aren't the same band. They see that their fanbase is now older with more money so they throw out the things they built that fanbase with and see them as a way of extorting more money. That's the difference. Everyone knows KISS is greedy so when they have expensive tickets, you expect it. Pearl Jam has been preaching the anti-greed, and there is more to life than money bullshit for 15 years and everything they have done over the last 3 has proven otherwise. That is why I have a problem with it. I still enjoy their music, just question their motives at this point in their careers. I used to go to the show feeling part of aa group who was appreciated as something more than a sold ticket, now I don't know what to think[/quote]

You really are right and I feel the same way but their stand in the 90's cost them $$$ not us. If you remember none of the other bands would join the fight. Unfortunately PJ is not that high priced relative to other acts. You also have to realize that Pearl Jam is a group that knows the value of choosing a theme or direction besides music and sticking with it. These ideals can be subject to change. Just remember Pearl Jam is great and at the end of the day they do some good in the world.

Jeanwah

blondieblue227 wrote:

OlDiamondback wrote:

Fucking ignorant, elitist bullshit. I make more than enough to pay for the tickets these days. In fact, I didn't even give it too much of a thought when they raised the prices, but then again I'm not a dad working at a gas station and trying to bring my son to a show either. When it costs less to see Springsteen in the same arena, for more than half the seats, I call bullshit.

It's not that the times have changed, it's that the principles have.

http://www.fivehorizons.com/archive/art ... 1294.shtml

Elitist ……… exactly. That’s what concerts are soon to be. An elitist way to rub people’s noses in it, when other people can’t afford the tickets. Soon only the rich will be able to go to a live show.
Blind sleep or elitist are what these people are.
Fuck em. I don’t want to be in the same concert venue with them anyway.

I don't think it's completely elitist. I do think that management is focusing on the most lucrative way to make big money, and that's focusing on certain target markets. Taking advantage of the young ("we're looking to broaden our audience") by sucking them in with a trendy Target commercial and an upbeat pop release. Pathetic.

Pjammer4ever

Don't know about anyone else, but I have been a 10C member for longer than I can remember and was not able to get Philly tix through 10C (and I live in Philly) ~ had to purchase them from Comcast tix and I got the worse seats imaginable, but am certainly not complaining about prices, I am just grateful I will be able to see the best band in the world once again in my hometown. I am so looking forward to it but really wish I could have gotten tix through 10C ~ such is life! My final ticket price, BTW, was $188 and I will be sitting in the nosebleed section!!!!!!!! :?

OlDiamondback

lostdogs77 wrote:

If they are slightly overpriced who cares? In the big picture is that going to make or break someone? I pay what I feel is too much for things all of the time. For someone who is not gainfully employed the tickets would be a struggle if they were 50% less. Things don't seem all that bad to me.

Well then, I guess they have a greed with which you have agreed.

lostdogs77

I agree you know how to cut and paste a little bit Are you from Fox News?

TheGossman

JohnDalton wrote:

Check out what Aerosmith is charging for their gig next month at Staples Center and realize we actually have it pretty good all things considered:

UPPER CONCOURSE

US $59.50 - US $200.00
LOWER LEVEL LOGE

US $59.50 - US $200.00
LOWER LEVEL FLOOR

US $149.50 - US $200.00
LOWER LEVEL PREMIER

US $89.50 - US $149.50

thats because Joe Perry plays dream on shirtless

OlDiamondback

lostdogs77 wrote:

I see these type of threads on here all the time and I don't really understand what the big deal is. Let me start by saying that I make an average but comfortable income. Throughout the year I spend tens of thousands of dollars on things that I need and things that I want. Being single I am probably less conservative than other people but I am very responsible. I do things like go to bars, date women, attend sporting events, attend non-pearl jam concerts, rarely hit a casino and do other random activities. All of the listed activities have come up short in the value department at one time or another unlike attending a pj show in my ten club seats. I think attending events and having the best seats is valuable and ten club tickets would have to be more than they are now to be severely overpriced. Typically event tickets vary in extreme amounts depending on seat location so arguably our seats should be more and the nose bleed seats should be less. I think people also tend to exaggerate about pj's prices and pj's prices compared to other acts. Yeah PJ is not the cheapest act around anymore. If they are slightly overpriced who cares? I have always thought stealing your favorite artists music was bullshit. In the big picture is that going to make or break someone? I pay what I feel is too much for things all of the time. For someone who is not gainfully employed the tickets would be a struggle if they were 50% less. I am sypathetic to those members that get shut out on tickets. I hope that they can improve or correct that but in the bigger markets the ten club probably could sell all of the available tickets but could they manage all that? And getting off topic if the band does something different does everybody have to freak out? Music is art and PJ has a huge catalog. Every song is not going to be your favorite . PJ is not AC/DC. In my opinion they have not made a shitty album yet. Sorry to go on for so long but I have pretty much been on here since day one and it has never been like it is now. Things don't seem all that bad to me.

Well then, I guess they have a greed with which you have agreed.

Better?

All hail the great wall of text.

haffajappa

I just realised, I pay more for a pair of pearl jam tickets than i do for my semester's bus pass...
Obviously I shell it out because I want to see the band... but when you think of the prices, you can't deny they're getting steep.

There's always tons of complaining i don't agree with on this board but this is one area where i feel its legitimate. Maybe because most of the fan base is growing older and has good jobs? (Must be nice)

haffajappa

vedder_soup wrote:

Question...
how much more money do you earn now compared to what you did 6 years ago, or 10 years ago???
How much more has your cost of living gone up in this time??? Gas food etc???

prices go up! deal with it. i earn an ok wage, and how i see it is that i am shelling out no more than 4 hours work after tax to see a show! i am happy with that. it is not fucking 1994 any more, get with the times!

And see my earlier post about ticket prices in other countries and see how well you get it! With cheap enough flights, i only works out maybe $2 or 300 to do 10 shows in the US rather than 10 shows down here in Australia. that is no joke!!!

Any arena act here you are looking at a minumum of $100 AUD - about $80 USD
Pink, love her or hate her SOLD OUT A 58 ARENA SHOW TOUR!!! in Australia that is MASSIVE, cheapest tickets $100 AUD upto $130 AUD 58 shows in a country of 20 million, and where a big arena tour would be 10 shows across the country. we deal with these prices, they are the norm.

the other thing to take into account with some of the cheaper arena prices that have been thrown around here are, how long do they play for? do they play for 2-2.5 hours night after night? are they any good live, are they better than pj live???? Do they give as much money to charity as pj??????

if you dont like the prices, then dont pay them, dont go to the show! simple!

You never told me you were a financial planner?

I think its a bit harsh to say that if you dont like the prices, don't go to the show. Its like saying, if you can't afford the prices, don't go to the show...

I think most of the people who are upset about it are more concerned with the fact that ticket prices have jumped significantly while other bands (LIKE THEIR MUSIC OR NOT) of the same stature (and supposedly moral outlooks) are playing shows for lower prices. I would expect to pay 120 for a KISS ticket, because I've had no reason to believe that money is not Gene Simmons' first priority. I would expect to pay a decent price for a Pearl Jam ticket because I was always lead to believe the band wants to make things affordable for the average person.

vedder_soup

haffajappa wrote:

I think its a bit harsh to say that if you dont like the prices, don't go to the show. Its like saying, if you can't afford the prices, don't go to the show...

i think i am just getting the shits with the constant bitching around here, so that is why that comment came out :roll:
but as i keep on pointing out, ticket prices in general are a lot better in the US then in other large markets like the UK and Australia... i am not complaining about the prices like all the others here, i am complaining about the complainers

blondieblue227

Jeanwah wrote:

I don't think it's completely elitist. I do think that management is focusing on the most lucrative way to make big money, and that's focusing on certain target markets. Taking advantage of the young ("we're looking to broaden our audience") by sucking them in with a trendy Target commercial and an upbeat pop release. Pathetic.

when i say elitist i mean those people that say 'get over it. quit complaining about ticket prices'

the music biz i know doesn't care, they're just doing what they're supposed to do. make money. but IMO they way they're doing it is wrong. there's other ways to make money without raising ticket prices. the way it's going, concert tickets are going to be $1000 a piece soon. Stop the insanity!



freakin A Pjammer4ever!

dimitrispearljam

vedder_soup wrote:

haffajappa wrote:

I think its a bit harsh to say that if you dont like the prices, don't go to the show. Its like saying, if you can't afford the prices, don't go to the show...

i think i am just getting the shits with the constant bitching around here, so that is why that comment came out :roll:
but as i keep on pointing out, ticket prices in general are a lot better in the US then in other large markets like the UK and Australia... i am not complaining about the prices like all the others here, i am complaining about the complainers