For those complaining about ticket prices

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,898
    edited July 2009
    Kanye East wrote:
    Comparing PJ to Radiohead is like comparing filet mingnon to a McDonalds hamburger


    You're talking about ticket prices right? Then I agree. :)

    Actually, I agree with you anyhow.
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  • hopethatuchoke
    hopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    Kanye East wrote:
    hopethatuchoke wrote:
    I think it's really sad what they have become. For a comparison:

    2003
    Pearl jam - MSG lower level seat - $39.50
    Pearl jam - Spectrum lower level seat - $37
    Radiohead - MSG Pit - $49.50


    2008/2009
    Radiohead - Camden Pit - $59
    Pearl Jam - Camden 100 level seat - $68
    Pearl jam - Spectrum - $77
    Eddie Vedder - Tower theater - $68


    So in 5 years, Radiohead has managed to only raise ticket prices only $10 and in the same span, Pearl jam has raised tickets almost $35 - $40? For those who make the argument that small tours = higher costs of lugging a stage and tour around... Radiohead are bringing their gear all the way from the UK plus they too play small, sporadic tours as well.

    I don't like the ticket prices nor do I agree with them but they are able to sell out charging those prices so why wouldn't they charge them? They just have no business playing the sing Green Disease.

    Comparing PJ to Radiohead is like comparing filet mingnon to a McDonalds hamburger


    I know. Post 97 RH has become the filet if you are going to look at them like that.
  • Kanye East
    Kanye East Posts: 782
    I saw Radiohead at Bonnaroo a few years back and it was BY FAR the worst show i've ever seen.
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  • dimitrispearljam
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    :lol::lol::lol: great post
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  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    Kanye East wrote:
    I saw Radiohead at Bonnaroo a few years back and it was BY FAR the worst show i've ever seen.

    maybe for you, but radiohead is an amazing live band.
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  • Indifference
    Indifference Posts: 2,779
    PJammin' wrote:
    Kanye East wrote:
    I saw Radiohead at Bonnaroo a few years back and it was BY FAR the worst show i've ever seen.

    maybe for you, but radiohead is an amazing live band.

    For some - I think they are way overrated live.

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  • Kanye East
    Kanye East Posts: 782
    PJammin' wrote:
    Kanye East wrote:
    I saw Radiohead at Bonnaroo a few years back and it was BY FAR the worst show i've ever seen.

    maybe for you, but radiohead is an amazing live band.

    Thats what I heard too, then I found out the hard way at Bonnaroo. Maybe they just had an off night, i dont know. But what I do know is that a good portion of the crowd left before the show was over. Thats how bad it was.
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  • thunderDAN
    thunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    Indifference wrote:
    PJammin' wrote:
    Kanye East wrote:
    I saw Radiohead at Bonnaroo a few years back and it was BY FAR the worst show i've ever seen.

    maybe for you, but radiohead is an amazing live band.

    For some - I think they are way overrated live.

    some people don't like them live because they don't sit and chat it up all night with the crowd. They do however put on an amazing show, they are all very talented and each play several different instruments during the show. They play some of the most complicated songs in rock perfectly live. Pearl Jam is a good live band too, but for different reasons. I never leave a PJ show thinking that I could never learn to play like Mike or Stone- Radiohead puts on a show where I'm amazed as to how those 5 guys can put out all of that sound with all of it's complexities
  • bigballsbilly
    bigballsbilly Posts: 67
    A couple different points of view:

    1. I have seen Bruce 20 times, and 2 more coming in October. With Ticketbastard charges his tickets come to $130. So I consider the $90 I just spent to see PJ ... to be cheap.

    2. Supply and Demand. And consider this, PJ does sell out their shows, but they sell for much more than face on Stub Hub, eBay, etc. So they are actually leaving money on the table. Some people are willing to pay far more for PJ tickets than what they charge for face value. So in some fashion they are actually charging less for the tickets than what Supply and Demand commands for them. Am I explaining this right?
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  • thunderDAN
    thunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    Kanye East wrote:
    hopethatuchoke wrote:
    I think it's really sad what they have become. For a comparison:

    2003
    Pearl jam - MSG lower level seat - $39.50
    Pearl jam - Spectrum lower level seat - $37
    Radiohead - MSG Pit - $49.50


    2008/2009
    Radiohead - Camden Pit - $59
    Pearl Jam - Camden 100 level seat - $68
    Pearl jam - Spectrum - $77
    Eddie Vedder - Tower theater - $68


    So in 5 years, Radiohead has managed to only raise ticket prices only $10 and in the same span, Pearl jam has raised tickets almost $35 - $40? For those who make the argument that small tours = higher costs of lugging a stage and tour around... Radiohead are bringing their gear all the way from the UK plus they too play small, sporadic tours as well.

    I don't like the ticket prices nor do I agree with them but they are able to sell out charging those prices so why wouldn't they charge them? They just have no business playing the sing Green Disease.

    Comparing PJ to Radiohead is like comparing filet mignon to a McDonalds hamburger

    Radiohead has outsold Pearl Jam since 2000, they are much more relevant and accepted than Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam is my favorite band, but let's not knock probably a top 5 band in today's current environment. Radiohead has sold more copies of In Rainbows and Hail to the Thief than Pearl Jam has of their last 2 without ever being on the radio and giving In Rainbows away for 6 months on their website.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    thunderDAN wrote:
    some people don't like them live because they don't sit and chat it up all night with the crowd. They do however put on an amazing show, they are all very talented and each play several different instruments during the show. They play some of the most complicated songs in rock perfectly live. Pearl Jam is a good live band too, but for different reasons. I never leave a PJ show thinking that I could never learn to play like Mike or Stone- Radiohead puts on a show where I'm amazed as to how those 5 guys can put out all of that sound with all of it's complexities

    This is completely off-topic, but I've never gotten Radiohead. I mean, I understand they are all amazing talents, and incredibly innovative and musical f'n geniuses .... their music just isn't what I'd call enjoyable. Somebody gave me OK Computer once, and listening to it was like homework.

    I understand why people like them I guess (particularly pretentious people ;) ) ... I just don't get it.
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  • Kanye East
    Kanye East Posts: 782
    slightofjeff wrote:
    thunderDAN wrote:
    some people don't like them live because they don't sit and chat it up all night with the crowd. They do however put on an amazing show, they are all very talented and each play several different instruments during the show. They play some of the most complicated songs in rock perfectly live. Pearl Jam is a good live band too, but for different reasons. I never leave a PJ show thinking that I could never learn to play like Mike or Stone- Radiohead puts on a show where I'm amazed as to how those 5 guys can put out all of that sound with all of it's complexities

    This is completely off-topic, but I've never gotten Radiohead. I mean, I understand they are all amazing talents, and incredibly innovative and musical f'n geniuses .... their music just isn't what I'd call enjoyable. Somebody gave me OK Computer once, and listening to it was like homework.

    I understand why people like them I guess (particularly pretentious people ;) ) ... I just don't get it.

    I've never gotten them either.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    slightofjeff wrote:
    thunderDAN wrote:
    some people don't like them live because they don't sit and chat it up all night with the crowd. They do however put on an amazing show, they are all very talented and each play several different instruments during the show. They play some of the most complicated songs in rock perfectly live. Pearl Jam is a good live band too, but for different reasons. I never leave a PJ show thinking that I could never learn to play like Mike or Stone- Radiohead puts on a show where I'm amazed as to how those 5 guys can put out all of that sound with all of it's complexities

    This is completely off-topic, but I've never gotten Radiohead. I mean, I understand they are all amazing talents, and incredibly innovative and musical f'n geniuses .... their music just isn't what I'd call enjoyable. Somebody gave me OK Computer once, and listening to it was like homework.

    I understand why people like them I guess (particularly pretentious people ;) ) ... I just don't get it.


    the homework part is spot on and damn funny :lol::mrgreen:
  • thunderDAN
    thunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    slightofjeff wrote:
    thunderDAN wrote:
    some people don't like them live because they don't sit and chat it up all night with the crowd. They do however put on an amazing show, they are all very talented and each play several different instruments during the show. They play some of the most complicated songs in rock perfectly live. Pearl Jam is a good live band too, but for different reasons. I never leave a PJ show thinking that I could never learn to play like Mike or Stone- Radiohead puts on a show where I'm amazed as to how those 5 guys can put out all of that sound with all of it's complexities

    This is completely off-topic, but I've never gotten Radiohead. I mean, I understand they are all amazing talents, and incredibly innovative and musical f'n geniuses .... their music just isn't what I'd call enjoyable. Somebody gave me OK Computer once, and listening to it was like homework.

    I understand why people like them I guess (particularly pretentious people ;) ) ... I just don't get it.

    I hated Radiohead for the longest time. I never understood it. I liked songs that had a clear chorus and all of that, but then I hear Airbag a couple of years ago, and started listening to other stuff and really liked it. There are some stuff that I can't get in to, but their good stuff is amazing and trumps anyone elses "good stuff" they have stuff that doesn't appeal to me at all, but their good stuff is why I listen
  • let the song protest
    let the song protest Posts: 200
    okay, i've just all of this thread and let me say i'm depressed now. i just find it all sad, really. i haven't appreciated the steep rise in PJ tix prices in the past few years, and to see it spelled out in front of me in cold hard numbers - one ticket practically doubling since 2003 - is just kinda disheartening. i guess what's so hard for so many of us is that when we got into PJ back in 92 or so and then the whole ticketmaster fight in the mid 90s became SO intertwined with how we as fans saw the band - hey, these guys are awesome and keep their prices low and fight for US! - then to have that all just go away in the past decade, it's just sad. as a realist, i know it's along time ago and i need to let it go. so on most days, i can do that, and i don't care much at all. there are more important aspects to life than what my favorite band charges for tix. but then on other days it's just hard, it's just b/c of the emotional investment i've made in the band for for the past 17 or so years. it's just hard, that's all. i just WISH they didn't charge so much now, i really do. but, they do, and that's life. i still love 'em and look forward to new music and tours from them. the ed shows were expensive, i thought, but i justified as a birthday present to myself (or, from my wife, even better!). we had a blast and now i don't even care what we paid. it was worth it. so i guess it's easier after you've seen the shows to not care so much about the cost.
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    bigballsbilly wrote:
    A couple different points of view:

    1. I have seen Bruce 20 times, and 2 more coming in October. With Ticketbastard charges his tickets come to $130. So I consider the $90 I just spent to see PJ ... to be cheap.

    Bruce's Tix for the Spectrum that go onsale Monday are $19.67 for nose bleeds, $68 and $101.

    PJ's are $77 for every seat.

    So unless you get great seats, you're paying less to see Bruce at the same venue.
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Ticket prices seems a little up and this times money is hard to get but its pearl jam.its awesome concerts with the band we love.and we speed all this money in shits so give money for pj shows i really dont care,when europe shows was up for buy them i buy all 4 and after i see the prices.i didnt even search for give the spares.i was so exiting.A friend find a person who search for tickets couse he was from aus and coulnt buy and ask them.And how many times you feel so happy in a year by giving your money ?
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  • Scott36
    Scott36 Posts: 109
    bigballsbilly wrote:
    A couple different points of view:

    1. I have seen Bruce 20 times, and 2 more coming in October. With Ticketbastard charges his tickets come to $130. So I consider the $90 I just spent to see PJ ... to be cheap.

    2. Supply and Demand. And consider this, PJ does sell out their shows, but they sell for much more than face on Stub Hub, eBay, etc. So they are actually leaving money on the table. Some people are willing to pay far more for PJ tickets than what they charge for face value. So in some fashion they are actually charging less for the tickets than what Supply and Demand commands for them. Am I explaining this right?

    They sell out shows in places like Philly and Seattle. They did not sell out Virginia Beach and Columbia last year. I don't know about DC, but there were definitely plenty of tickets to be had for that show as well. I didn't keep tabs on the other shows since I couldn't make it up north to see them. But yeah, not all PJ shows are just guaranteed sell-outs at these pricing levels for tickets.
  • RyGuy
    RyGuy Posts: 295
    It might just be wishful thinking, but it would be great to hear the band's perspective on this issue. I presume they'll be doing some press when Backspacer comes out, so I hope that there's somebody who at least brings it up.

    While I personally don't have a problem with paying $70-$80 to see them, I can certainly appreciate the frustration amongst their longtime fans. Sure, they have every right to charge what the market will bear, but I as fans we have the same right to question the relative hypocrisy of such decisions. No matter which way you slice it, Pearl Jam used to position themselves as band band for whom fan accessibility was of paramount importance. Now, they still do lots of things for us that most bands don't, but they are definitely pricing some people out - especially many of their most loyal fans who now have other responsibilities (kids, mortgages, etc.) that they didn't have to worry about in the early to mid-nineties.

    I know they don't owe me anything - but I would love to hear them at least address the issue.
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Kanye East wrote:

    Comparing PJ to Radiohead is like comparing filet mignon to a McDonalds hamburger
    aww, that's harsh. you could have at least called pearl jam a cheeseburger.
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam

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