*****The God Bless America Thread******

norm

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

by the way, why are we sill singing god bless america at baseball games? i can understand shortly after 9/11, but come on, that was nearly 8 years ago.

i've been wondering about this too....didn't we already do our force patriotism at the beginning of the game?

not that i'm opposed to the signing of our national anthem at the beginning of sporting events, but do we need to reinforce this again? :?

jlew24asu

norm wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

by the way, why are we sill singing god bless america at baseball games? i can understand shortly after 9/11, but come on, that was nearly 8 years ago.

i've been wondering about this too....didn't we already do our force patriotism at the beginning of the game?

not that i'm opposed to the signing of our national anthem at the beginning of sporting events, but do we need to reinforce this again? :?

o the humanity! geezus chrizt people, is it really that bad? :roll: nothing is forced either, you are free to ignore it, go take a piss, grab a beer, or shut you eyes, put your finger in your ears, and hum.

America is a great country and allows you people many wonderful things. it isn't the end of the fucking world if some stupid patriotic song is sung during a freaking baseball game, you know, America's pastime.

Cosmo

jlew24asu wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

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And you are supposed to stand, like it's the Nation Anthem.
You don't have to... but, if you don't... you can expect a half eaten hot dog or cup of Pepsi to rain down on you.

I'm a season ticket holder for the Chicago White Sox. I've been going, on average, to a game a week for the past 5 seasons.

this is the biggest exaggeration I've heard in quite some time. no one gives a flying fuck what you do during god bless america song. but I suppose I can only speak of what Chicagoans do.

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Go to Dodgers Stadium... in the Blue Section or the bleachers.
And yeah... most people DO stand like they do for the National Anthem, don't they? And I'm going to go out on a limb here and venture to guess thet you do, too.
Well, prove me wrong... stop standing for the singing of 'God Bless America' and remain sitting from now on and see if it is a great exaggeration on my part.

jlew24asu

Cosmo wrote:

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Go to Dodgers Stadium... in the Blue Section or the bleachers.
And yeah... most people DO stand like they do for the National Anthem, don't they? And I'm going to go out on a limb here and venture to guess thet you do, too.
Well, prove me wrong... stop standing for the singing of 'God Bless America' and remain sitting from now on and see if it is a great exaggeration on my part.

um, I go to a shitload of baseball games....and I see plenty people sitting or not paying attention at all, or run off to the bathroom, or grab food/beer.

and guess what. no one cares. so yes, for you to say that people will get food thrown on that is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in awhile

Pepe Silvia

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

is "god bless america" a request of god to bless the us or is it a command?

either way i think it is a little pretentious to ask or command a supreme being to do anything. many of the religious folks on here might make a reference to god's plan. if we ask him/her or command them to bestow blessings on us that we otherwise would not have, doesn't that mess up the plan? and isn't that very selfish of us as americans?

i dunno, just my thoughts.

by the way, why are we sill singing god bless america at baseball games? i can understand shortly after 9/11, but come on, that was nearly 8 years ago.

what i never understood about the whole 'god had your life planned out for you before you were conceived' stuff is wouldn't that mean it was god's plan for Eve to eat the apple? wouldn't that mean it was god's plan that Hitler killed a bunch of jews, homosexuals, immigrants and other demographics? wouldn't that mean it was god's plan that child rapists do what they do? a religious friend replied once "yeah, but how do you know by that 1 kid being molested it didn't save 5 other kids from being molested?" wtf??? why does god's plan have to entail ANY child molestation!?

i think there's something higher than ourselves separately but i don't think it's some white male with our lives planned out

gimmesometruth27

but when people say it is it a request or a command?

sounds like a command to me.

Cosmo

jlew24asu wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

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Go to Dodgers Stadium... in the Blue Section or the bleachers.
And yeah... most people DO stand like they do for the National Anthem, don't they? And I'm going to go out on a limb here and venture to guess thet you do, too.
Well, prove me wrong... stop standing for the singing of 'God Bless America' and remain sitting from now on and see if it is a great exaggeration on my part.

um, I go to a shitload of baseball games....and I see plenty people sitting or not paying attention at all, or run off to the bathroom, or grab food/beer.

and guess what. no one cares. so yes, for you to say that people will get food thrown on that is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in awhile

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So, you're not going to stand any more to prove me wrong... right? Nothing will happen to you becaue no one cares.

norm

jlew24asu wrote:

norm wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

by the way, why are we sill singing god bless america at baseball games? i can understand shortly after 9/11, but come on, that was nearly 8 years ago.

i've been wondering about this too....didn't we already do our force patriotism at the beginning of the game?

not that i'm opposed to the signing of our national anthem at the beginning of sporting events, but do we need to reinforce this again? :?

o the humanity! geezus chrizt people, is it really that bad? :roll: nothing is forced either, you are free to ignore it, go take a piss, grab a beer, or shut you eyes, put your finger in your ears, and hum.

America is a great country and allows you people many wonderful things. it isn't the end of the fucking world if some stupid patriotic song is sung during a freaking baseball game, you know, America's pastime.

then why is it sung? i'm genuinely curious as to why we have to acknowledge our country twice in one game

Cosmo

jlew24asu wrote:

norm wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

by the way, why are we sill singing god bless america at baseball games? i can understand shortly after 9/11, but come on, that was nearly 8 years ago.

i've been wondering about this too....didn't we already do our force patriotism at the beginning of the game?

not that i'm opposed to the signing of our national anthem at the beginning of sporting events, but do we need to reinforce this again? :?

o the humanity! geezus chrizt people, is it really that bad? :roll: nothing is forced either, you are free to ignore it, go take a piss, grab a beer, or shut you eyes, put your finger in your ears, and hum.

America is a great country and allows you people many wonderful things. it isn't the end of the fucking world if some stupid patriotic song is sung during a freaking baseball game, you know, America's pastime.

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Granted... this IS New York, so there is some understanding that surrounds this specific case. But, i believe it goes on in other big league parks across the country.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns
"... In May 2007, Trost told The New York Times that the practice (Ushers using handheld chains to block off some exits while it was played at the Yankees’ old stadium) was inspired by complaints of fans who were upset that spectators were not respectful enough during the playing of “God Bless America.”"
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ADD: No one is saying America isn't a great country. We're just saying that some of the American people are assholes. you and I mat not care that people sit during the playing of 'God Bless America', but there are asshole Americans that do... and will heave their half eaten hot dog at you. if you do not believe these people exist... you are the one with the great misconception.

g under p

jlew24asu wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

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Go to Dodgers Stadium... in the Blue Section or the bleachers.
And yeah... most people DO stand like they do for the National Anthem, don't they? And I'm going to go out on a limb here and venture to guess thet you do, too.
Well, prove me wrong... stop standing for the singing of 'God Bless America' and remain sitting from now on and see if it is a great exaggeration on my part.

um, I go to a shitload of baseball games....and I see plenty people sitting or not paying attention at all, or run off to the bathroom, or grab food/beer.

and guess what. no one cares. so yes, for you to say that people will get food thrown on that is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in awhile

Maybe after 9/11 and shortly thereafter but now I would hardly think so. For instance back in 2002 some older woman tried cutting me off because I had another country's flag in my truck. I told her to F off cause she had no idea why I had this flag in my car. At the time I was disgusted with the plan to invade Iraq so no American flag on or in my truck (my silent form of protest). It was only till 2005 when it was coming to light that our invasion/occupation was made under lies as to why we were there did I place a flag in my truck.

A couple weeks ago in DC at a Nationals game against the Sox I didn't stand during GBA or remove my hat and NOT a soul messed with me. Had I done that shortly after 9/11 that might have been a different story. We sort of go with the crowd in the name of Patriotism or peered pressure not me, NOT me not till I see the full picture.

Peace

Cosmo

g under p wrote:

Maybe after 9/11 and shortly thereafter but now I would hardly think so. For instance back in 2002 some older woman tried cutting me off because I had another country's flag in my truck. I told her to F off cause she had no idea why I had this flag in my car. At the time I was disgusted with the plan to invade Iraq so no American flag on or in my truck (my silent form of protest). It was only till 2005 when it was coming to light that our invasion/occupation was made under lies as to why we were there did I place a flag in my truck.

A couple weeks ago in DC at a Nationals game against the Sox I didn't stand during GBA or remove my hat and NOT a soul messed with me. Had I done that shortly after 9/11 that might have been a different story. We sort of go with the crowd in the name of Patriotism or peered pressure not me, NOT me not till I see the full picture.

Peace

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That kind of my point... "We sort of go with the crowd in the name of Patriotism or peered pressure..."
Most of us do. I stand during, 'God Bless America' mostly because I sit in the cheap seats at Dodgers or Angels Stadiums and have seen some of these assholes that do harrass people and I don't really want to get harrassed at a ball game. They don't do it to everyone who's sitting or at every game... I'm just saying, it does happen.
So, yeah... I fold and go with the peer pressure.

jlew24asu

Cosmo wrote:

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So, you're not going to stand any more to prove me wrong... right? Nothing will happen to you becaue no one cares.

if no one cares if others don't it, why are they going to care if I don't it?

jlew24asu

Cosmo wrote:

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ADD: No one is saying America isn't a great country. We're just saying that some of the American people are assholes. you and I mat not care that people sit during the playing of 'God Bless America', but there are asshole Americans that do... and will heave their half eaten hot dog at you. if you do not believe these people exist... you are the one with the great misconception.

I'm not saying it NEVER happens. sure it might, there are assholes everywhere. you made it sound like the norm and that it would likely happen.

which, like I said, its a ridiculous exaggeration.

jlew24asu

norm wrote:

then why is it sung? i'm genuinely curious as to why we have to acknowledge our country twice in one game

first of all its not sung. god bless america song is not sung at every game. probably only during sunday night baseball, or holidays, or nationally televised games. and even then its no guarantee nowadays

second of all, why are you (and others) so bent out of shape about it?

acknowledging our country TWICE in one game??!!?!? can you believe the nerve with these pricks :roll:

jlew24asu

the poor OP had such great intentions with this thread but really blew by using the G word. its pretty sad to see so many freak out when they see that evil word.

norm

jlew24asu wrote:

norm wrote:

then why is it sung? i'm genuinely curious as to why we have to acknowledge our country twice in one game

first of all its not sung. god bless america song is not sung at every game. probably only during sunday night baseball, or holidays, or nationally televised games. and even then its no guarantee nowadays

second of all, why are you (and others) so bent out of shape about it?

acknowledging our country TWICE in one game??!!?!? can you believe the nerve with these pricks :roll:

j relax i'm just curious....and as far as i know, it is sung at the 7th inning stretch at every home dodger game and i was just curious as to why? it just seems unnecessary....

soulsinging

Cosmo wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

by the way, why are we sill singing god bless america at baseball games? i can understand shortly after 9/11, but come on, that was nearly 8 years ago.

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And you are supposed to stand, like it's the Nation Anthem.
You don't have to... but, if you don't... you can expect a half eaten hot dog or cup of Pepsi to rain down on you.

That annoys me too. The 7th inning stretch is supposed to be a fun little break in the action, not some solemn misty eyed flag-wavin bullshit. God, I hate that song.

soulsinging

jlew24asu wrote:

norm wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

by the way, why are we sill singing god bless america at baseball games? i can understand shortly after 9/11, but come on, that was nearly 8 years ago.

i've been wondering about this too....didn't we already do our force patriotism at the beginning of the game?

not that i'm opposed to the signing of our national anthem at the beginning of sporting events, but do we need to reinforce this again? :?

o the humanity! geezus chrizt people, is it really that bad? :roll: nothing is forced either, you are free to ignore it, go take a piss, grab a beer, or shut you eyes, put your finger in your ears, and hum.

America is a great country and allows you people many wonderful things. it isn't the end of the fucking world if some stupid patriotic song is sung during a freaking baseball game, you know, America's pastime.

Exactly, it gives us the freedom to do things like say that it's a lame "tradition" and I wish they didn't do it at baseball games.

g under p

jlew24asu wrote:

norm wrote:

then why is it sung? i'm genuinely curious as to why we have to acknowledge our country twice in one game

first of all its not sung. god bless america song is not sung at every game. probably only during sunday night baseball, or holidays, or nationally televised games. and even then its no guarantee nowadays

second of all, why are you (and others) so bent out of shape about it?

acknowledging our country TWICE in one game??!!?!? can you believe the nerve with these pricks :roll:

Sadly, it is sung/played at EVERY baseball game during the 7th inning stretch. Most peeps jump at the opportunity to go to the bathroom or the concession stands.

Peace

Cosmo

jlew24asu wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

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So, you're not going to stand any more to prove me wrong... right? Nothing will happen to you becaue no one cares.

if no one cares if others don't it, why are they going to care if I don't it?

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That's my point. You are saying no one would care, so no one will do or say anything to you.
I am saying, go ahead and prove me wrong. Don't stand anymore and see if anyone says or does anything.
I'm predicting the one or more of those times... some a-hole is going to interpret your sitting as some sort of national disrespect and let you know about their discontent.