*****The God Bless America Thread******

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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    by the way, why are we sill singing god bless america at baseball games? i can understand shortly after 9/11, but come on, that was nearly 8 years ago.

    i've been wondering about this too....didn't we already do our force patriotism at the beginning of the game?

    not that i'm opposed to the signing of our national anthem at the beginning of sporting events, but do we need to reinforce this again? :?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    norm wrote:
    by the way, why are we sill singing god bless america at baseball games? i can understand shortly after 9/11, but come on, that was nearly 8 years ago.

    i've been wondering about this too....didn't we already do our force patriotism at the beginning of the game?

    not that i'm opposed to the signing of our national anthem at the beginning of sporting events, but do we need to reinforce this again? :?

    o the humanity! geezus chrizt people, is it really that bad? :roll: nothing is forced either, you are free to ignore it, go take a piss, grab a beer, or shut you eyes, put your finger in your ears, and hum.

    America is a great country and allows you people many wonderful things. it isn't the end of the fucking world if some stupid patriotic song is sung during a freaking baseball game, you know, America's pastime.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    And you are supposed to stand, like it's the Nation Anthem.
    You don't have to... but, if you don't... you can expect a half eaten hot dog or cup of Pepsi to rain down on you.

    I'm a season ticket holder for the Chicago White Sox. I've been going, on average, to a game a week for the past 5 seasons.

    this is the biggest exaggeration I've heard in quite some time. no one gives a flying fuck what you do during god bless america song. but I suppose I can only speak of what Chicagoans do.
    ...
    Go to Dodgers Stadium... in the Blue Section or the bleachers.
    And yeah... most people DO stand like they do for the National Anthem, don't they? And I'm going to go out on a limb here and venture to guess thet you do, too.
    Well, prove me wrong... stop standing for the singing of 'God Bless America' and remain sitting from now on and see if it is a great exaggeration on my part.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Go to Dodgers Stadium... in the Blue Section or the bleachers.
    And yeah... most people DO stand like they do for the National Anthem, don't they? And I'm going to go out on a limb here and venture to guess thet you do, too.
    Well, prove me wrong... stop standing for the singing of 'God Bless America' and remain sitting from now on and see if it is a great exaggeration on my part.

    um, I go to a shitload of baseball games....and I see plenty people sitting or not paying attention at all, or run off to the bathroom, or grab food/beer.

    and guess what. no one cares. so yes, for you to say that people will get food thrown on that is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in awhile
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    is "god bless america" a request of god to bless the us or is it a command?

    either way i think it is a little pretentious to ask or command a supreme being to do anything. many of the religious folks on here might make a reference to god's plan. if we ask him/her or command them to bestow blessings on us that we otherwise would not have, doesn't that mess up the plan? and isn't that very selfish of us as americans?

    i dunno, just my thoughts.

    by the way, why are we sill singing god bless america at baseball games? i can understand shortly after 9/11, but come on, that was nearly 8 years ago.


    what i never understood about the whole 'god had your life planned out for you before you were conceived' stuff is wouldn't that mean it was god's plan for Eve to eat the apple? wouldn't that mean it was god's plan that Hitler killed a bunch of jews, homosexuals, immigrants and other demographics? wouldn't that mean it was god's plan that child rapists do what they do? a religious friend replied once "yeah, but how do you know by that 1 kid being molested it didn't save 5 other kids from being molested?" wtf??? why does god's plan have to entail ANY child molestation!?

    i think there's something higher than ourselves separately but i don't think it's some white male with our lives planned out
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    but when people say it is it a request or a command?

    sounds like a command to me.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Go to Dodgers Stadium... in the Blue Section or the bleachers.
    And yeah... most people DO stand like they do for the National Anthem, don't they? And I'm going to go out on a limb here and venture to guess thet you do, too.
    Well, prove me wrong... stop standing for the singing of 'God Bless America' and remain sitting from now on and see if it is a great exaggeration on my part.

    um, I go to a shitload of baseball games....and I see plenty people sitting or not paying attention at all, or run off to the bathroom, or grab food/beer.

    and guess what. no one cares. so yes, for you to say that people will get food thrown on that is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in awhile
    ...
    So, you're not going to stand any more to prove me wrong... right? Nothing will happen to you becaue no one cares.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    jlew24asu wrote:
    norm wrote:
    by the way, why are we sill singing god bless america at baseball games? i can understand shortly after 9/11, but come on, that was nearly 8 years ago.

    i've been wondering about this too....didn't we already do our force patriotism at the beginning of the game?

    not that i'm opposed to the signing of our national anthem at the beginning of sporting events, but do we need to reinforce this again? :?

    o the humanity! geezus chrizt people, is it really that bad? :roll: nothing is forced either, you are free to ignore it, go take a piss, grab a beer, or shut you eyes, put your finger in your ears, and hum.

    America is a great country and allows you people many wonderful things. it isn't the end of the fucking world if some stupid patriotic song is sung during a freaking baseball game, you know, America's pastime.


    then why is it sung? i'm genuinely curious as to why we have to acknowledge our country twice in one game
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    edited July 2009
    jlew24asu wrote:
    norm wrote:
    by the way, why are we sill singing god bless america at baseball games? i can understand shortly after 9/11, but come on, that was nearly 8 years ago.

    i've been wondering about this too....didn't we already do our force patriotism at the beginning of the game?

    not that i'm opposed to the signing of our national anthem at the beginning of sporting events, but do we need to reinforce this again? :?

    o the humanity! geezus chrizt people, is it really that bad? :roll: nothing is forced either, you are free to ignore it, go take a piss, grab a beer, or shut you eyes, put your finger in your ears, and hum.

    America is a great country and allows you people many wonderful things. it isn't the end of the fucking world if some stupid patriotic song is sung during a freaking baseball game, you know, America's pastime.
    ...
    Granted... this IS New York, so there is some understanding that surrounds this specific case. But, i believe it goes on in other big league parks across the country.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns
    "... In May 2007, Trost told The New York Times that the practice (Ushers using handheld chains to block off some exits while it was played at the Yankees’ old stadium) was inspired by complaints of fans who were upset that spectators were not respectful enough during the playing of “God Bless America.”"
    ...
    ADD: No one is saying America isn't a great country. We're just saying that some of the American people are assholes. you and I mat not care that people sit during the playing of 'God Bless America', but there are asshole Americans that do... and will heave their half eaten hot dog at you. if you do not believe these people exist... you are the one with the great misconception.
    Post edited by Cosmo on
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Go to Dodgers Stadium... in the Blue Section or the bleachers.
    And yeah... most people DO stand like they do for the National Anthem, don't they? And I'm going to go out on a limb here and venture to guess thet you do, too.
    Well, prove me wrong... stop standing for the singing of 'God Bless America' and remain sitting from now on and see if it is a great exaggeration on my part.

    um, I go to a shitload of baseball games....and I see plenty people sitting or not paying attention at all, or run off to the bathroom, or grab food/beer.

    and guess what. no one cares. so yes, for you to say that people will get food thrown on that is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in awhile

    Maybe after 9/11 and shortly thereafter but now I would hardly think so. For instance back in 2002 some older woman tried cutting me off because I had another country's flag in my truck. I told her to F off cause she had no idea why I had this flag in my car. At the time I was disgusted with the plan to invade Iraq so no American flag on or in my truck (my silent form of protest). It was only till 2005 when it was coming to light that our invasion/occupation was made under lies as to why we were there did I place a flag in my truck.

    A couple weeks ago in DC at a Nationals game against the Sox I didn't stand during GBA or remove my hat and NOT a soul messed with me. Had I done that shortly after 9/11 that might have been a different story. We sort of go with the crowd in the name of Patriotism or peered pressure not me, NOT me not till I see the full picture.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    g under p wrote:
    Maybe after 9/11 and shortly thereafter but now I would hardly think so. For instance back in 2002 some older woman tried cutting me off because I had another country's flag in my truck. I told her to F off cause she had no idea why I had this flag in my car. At the time I was disgusted with the plan to invade Iraq so no American flag on or in my truck (my silent form of protest). It was only till 2005 when it was coming to light that our invasion/occupation was made under lies as to why we were there did I place a flag in my truck.

    A couple weeks ago in DC at a Nationals game against the Sox I didn't stand during GBA or remove my hat and NOT a soul messed with me. Had I done that shortly after 9/11 that might have been a different story. We sort of go with the crowd in the name of Patriotism or peered pressure not me, NOT me not till I see the full picture.

    Peace
    ...
    That kind of my point... "We sort of go with the crowd in the name of Patriotism or peered pressure..."
    Most of us do. I stand during, 'God Bless America' mostly because I sit in the cheap seats at Dodgers or Angels Stadiums and have seen some of these assholes that do harrass people and I don't really want to get harrassed at a ball game. They don't do it to everyone who's sitting or at every game... I'm just saying, it does happen.
    So, yeah... I fold and go with the peer pressure.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    So, you're not going to stand any more to prove me wrong... right? Nothing will happen to you becaue no one cares.

    if no one cares if others don't it, why are they going to care if I don't it?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    ADD: No one is saying America isn't a great country. We're just saying that some of the American people are assholes. you and I mat not care that people sit during the playing of 'God Bless America', but there are asshole Americans that do... and will heave their half eaten hot dog at you. if you do not believe these people exist... you are the one with the great misconception.

    I'm not saying it NEVER happens. sure it might, there are assholes everywhere. you made it sound like the norm and that it would likely happen.

    which, like I said, its a ridiculous exaggeration.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    norm wrote:


    then why is it sung? i'm genuinely curious as to why we have to acknowledge our country twice in one game

    first of all its not sung. god bless america song is not sung at every game. probably only during sunday night baseball, or holidays, or nationally televised games. and even then its no guarantee nowadays

    second of all, why are you (and others) so bent out of shape about it?

    acknowledging our country TWICE in one game??!!?!? can you believe the nerve with these pricks :roll:
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    the poor OP had such great intentions with this thread but really blew by using the G word. its pretty sad to see so many freak out when they see that evil word.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    jlew24asu wrote:
    norm wrote:


    then why is it sung? i'm genuinely curious as to why we have to acknowledge our country twice in one game

    first of all its not sung. god bless america song is not sung at every game. probably only during sunday night baseball, or holidays, or nationally televised games. and even then its no guarantee nowadays

    second of all, why are you (and others) so bent out of shape about it?

    acknowledging our country TWICE in one game??!!?!? can you believe the nerve with these pricks :roll:


    j relax i'm just curious....and as far as i know, it is sung at the 7th inning stretch at every home dodger game and i was just curious as to why? it just seems unnecessary....
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    edited July 2009
    Cosmo wrote:
    by the way, why are we sill singing god bless america at baseball games? i can understand shortly after 9/11, but come on, that was nearly 8 years ago.
    ...
    And you are supposed to stand, like it's the Nation Anthem.
    You don't have to... but, if you don't... you can expect a half eaten hot dog or cup of Pepsi to rain down on you.

    That annoys me too. The 7th inning stretch is supposed to be a fun little break in the action, not some solemn misty eyed flag-wavin bullshit. God, I hate that song.
    Post edited by soulsinging on
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    jlew24asu wrote:
    norm wrote:
    by the way, why are we sill singing god bless america at baseball games? i can understand shortly after 9/11, but come on, that was nearly 8 years ago.

    i've been wondering about this too....didn't we already do our force patriotism at the beginning of the game?

    not that i'm opposed to the signing of our national anthem at the beginning of sporting events, but do we need to reinforce this again? :?

    o the humanity! geezus chrizt people, is it really that bad? :roll: nothing is forced either, you are free to ignore it, go take a piss, grab a beer, or shut you eyes, put your finger in your ears, and hum.

    America is a great country and allows you people many wonderful things. it isn't the end of the fucking world if some stupid patriotic song is sung during a freaking baseball game, you know, America's pastime.

    Exactly, it gives us the freedom to do things like say that it's a lame "tradition" and I wish they didn't do it at baseball games.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    jlew24asu wrote:
    norm wrote:


    then why is it sung? i'm genuinely curious as to why we have to acknowledge our country twice in one game

    first of all its not sung. god bless america song is not sung at every game. probably only during sunday night baseball, or holidays, or nationally televised games. and even then its no guarantee nowadays

    second of all, why are you (and others) so bent out of shape about it?

    acknowledging our country TWICE in one game??!!?!? can you believe the nerve with these pricks :roll:

    Sadly, it is sung/played at EVERY baseball game during the 7th inning stretch. Most peeps jump at the opportunity to go to the bathroom or the concession stands.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    So, you're not going to stand any more to prove me wrong... right? Nothing will happen to you becaue no one cares.

    if no one cares if others don't it, why are they going to care if I don't it?
    ...
    That's my point. You are saying no one would care, so no one will do or say anything to you.
    I am saying, go ahead and prove me wrong. Don't stand anymore and see if anyone says or does anything.
    I'm predicting the one or more of those times... some a-hole is going to interpret your sitting as some sort of national disrespect and let you know about their discontent.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    in my high school if you didn't rise for the pledge of allegiance you got sent to the office
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    jlew24asu wrote:
    the poor OP had such great intentions with this thread but really blew by using the G word. its pretty sad to see so many freak out when they see that evil word.
    ...
    Let's summarize...
    Here are the things God has blessed America with:
    Freedom of Speech
    Baseball
    Jazz
    Obama
    The men who stormed Normandy Beach
    The 4th of July
    Hot dogs
    New York City
    ...
    Those are things Man has created for us. How about we take a little credit for things like Hot Dogs and Baseball and The Constituton?
    The thing is, we don't corner the market on God's Blessings. God cares about all men and women. We, as Americans, can take credit for Basketball and Shelby Mustangs.
    That's all.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Cosmo wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    the poor OP had such great intentions with this thread but really blew by using the G word. its pretty sad to see so many freak out when they see that evil word.
    ...
    Let's summarize...
    Here are the things God has blessed America with:
    Freedom of Speech
    Baseball
    Jazz
    Obama
    The men who stormed Normandy Beach
    The 4th of July
    Hot dogs
    New York City
    ...
    Those are things Man has created for us. How about we take a little credit for things like Hot Dogs and Baseball and The Constituton?
    The thing is, we don't corner the market on God's Blessings. God cares about all men and women. We, as Americans, can take credit for Basketball and Shelby Mustangs.
    That's all.


    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    hallelujah!!!! ;)
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    jlew24asu wrote:
    norm wrote:


    then why is it sung? i'm genuinely curious as to why we have to acknowledge our country twice in one game

    first of all its not sung. god bless america song is not sung at every game. probably only during sunday night baseball, or holidays, or nationally televised games. and even then its no guarantee nowadays

    second of all, why are you (and others) so bent out of shape about it?

    acknowledging our country TWICE in one game??!!?!? can you believe the nerve with these pricks :roll:
    correction, its sung at every game i have been to at busch stadium. and thats about 25 games a year i go to.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    BRMLAW wrote:
    If you love this country, right or wrong, chime in what you love about the place. There are so many others who come here just to bitch about what's wrong with it. So name something you love. Or a few things.

    Near genocide of Native Americans
    Slavery
    Witch Hunts
    Japanese Internment Camps
    Jim Crow
    Hunger
    Capitalism
    Wal-Mart
    The Iraq War
    George Bush
    Sarcasm
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • encinomanencinoman Posts: 35
    This had nothing to do with God. Personally Im agnostic. But im glad it got someone's eye and there was nice positive discussion where the focus was on whats good with this country. We all know the bad.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    encinoman wrote:
    This had nothing to do with God. Personally Im agnostic. But im glad it got someone's eye and there was nice positive discussion where the focus was on whats good with this country. We all know the bad.

    Do we, do we really know all the bad?

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    encinoman wrote:
    This had nothing to do with God. Personally Im agnostic. But im glad it got someone's eye and there was nice positive discussion where the focus was on whats good with this country. We all know the bad.
    i don't think that's even close to true.
  • encinomanencinoman Posts: 35
    is "god bless america" a request of god to bless the us or is it a command?

    either way i think it is a little pretentious to ask or command a supreme being to do anything. many of the religious folks on here might make a reference to god's plan. if we ask him/her or command them to bestow blessings on us that we otherwise would not have, doesn't that mess up the plan? and isn't that very selfish of us as americans?

    i dunno, just my thoughts.

    by the way, why are we sill singing god bless america at baseball games? i can understand shortly after 9/11, but come on, that was nearly 8 years ago.


    what i never understood about the whole 'god had your life planned out for you before you were conceived' stuff is wouldn't that mean it was god's plan for Eve to eat the apple? wouldn't that mean it was god's plan that Hitler killed a bunch of jews, homosexuals, immigrants and other demographics? wouldn't that mean it was god's plan that child rapists do what they do? a religious friend replied once "yeah, but how do you know by that 1 kid being molested it didn't save 5 other kids from being molested?" wtf??? why does god's plan have to entail ANY child molestation!?

    i think there's something higher than ourselves separately but i don't think it's some white male with our lives planned out

    Ditto this. No man with a beard either. But that's a whole other topic. Happy to start a debunk the bible thread any time. Id be all over that one.
  • encinomanencinoman Posts: 35
    cornnifer wrote:
    BRMLAW wrote:
    If you love this country, right or wrong, chime in what you love about the place. There are so many others who come here just to bitch about what's wrong with it. So name something you love. Or a few things.

    Near genocide of Native Americans
    Slavery
    Witch Hunts
    Japanese Internment Camps
    Jim Crow
    Hunger
    Capitalism
    Wal-Mart
    The Iraq War
    George Bush
    Sarcasm

    Start your own hate thread. Cant you help yourself?
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