Pearl Jam @ Shepards Bush is official ~ Local 10c lottery

SoonForgotten2

xnothingmanx wrote:

SM244210 wrote:

For example, smashing pumpkins played a gig at that venue a couple of years ago, didn’t send out emails and only listed the gig ten minutes before they went on sale. In that case, if you miss out because you haven’t been keeping one eye on the band you support, tough luck, and that way the touts don’t get nearly as many tickets. But this HMV circus, stupid lottery, and pathetic ticketweb sale encourages people who have been so unlucky to just splash out big money. It has to, ultimately, come down to the band.

Agree 100% with that. Only people on the mailing list new about it and tickets were only announced a day or two before on their website. No fanfare or stupid hmv link and I got tickets, through ticketweb, very easily. It snuck under the tout radar and only the hardcore fans knew about it. And this was their first gig here in 7 years! (Albeit minus darcy and james).

Yeah, nevermind the fact that Pearl Jam is trying to promote their new album or that the HMV sale got people to pre-order the album (regardless of how many of us may have then cancelled the order).

see_the_world

pdalowsky wrote:

Its amazing that people still dont realise how fucking incredibly shite the current government is and has been for some time.

Incompetence is rife, and when bigger issues are being posed such as how can the countrys chancellor deny a recession when its blindingly obvious as late as last Oct, and how could the previous chancellor (our current Pm somehow), not see it on the horizon despite being in control of the countrys finances and purse strings....thats startling beyond belief.

They live in a cacoon, so sadly the issue of ticket touting/scalping is way down the agenda and much less pressing than collecting their fucking expenses.

This country is on the ropes, in a major way, the level of public debt and the fiscal deficit is now so alarming yet virtually brushed away like a mosquito.

We are talking numbers here that it is so difficult to comprehend, and on that basis does the giant tit brown really give two shits about a pearl jam ticket being sold on ebay for 5 times its worth or more'. sadly not.

The man is a moron, and we just have to start to accept that

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Erm, I wasn't really trying to get party political with that statement about the government not giving a fuck. I don't think a Tory government would give a shit either. There is a political class in this country to which nearly all MPs belong, and that class would view ticket touting as the kind of 'enterprise' that 'creates wealth' and keeps this country on its feet.
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Back on track… anyone got a spare

kevtic

Not everyone spends all ther waking mins on the net. it doesn't make you any more of fan because you sit and hit F5 in the vain hope a small club gig might be announced on your fav bands website.

I do however agree that maybe more of an effort could have been made to ensure more 10c members got tickets as you have shown a commitment to the band by becoming a fanclub member.

It's night on impossible to keep anything secret once it's on the net these days.

pdalowsky

see_the_world wrote:

pdalowsky wrote:

Its amazing that people still dont realise how fucking incredibly shite the current government is and has been for some time.

Incompetence is rife, and when bigger issues are being posed such as how can the countrys chancellor deny a recession when its blindingly obvious as late as last Oct, and how could the previous chancellor (our current Pm somehow), not see it on the horizon despite being in control of the countrys finances and purse strings....thats startling beyond belief.

They live in a cacoon, so sadly the issue of ticket touting/scalping is way down the agenda and much less pressing than collecting their fucking expenses.

This country is on the ropes, in a major way, the level of public debt and the fiscal deficit is now so alarming yet virtually brushed away like a mosquito.

We are talking numbers here that it is so difficult to comprehend, and on that basis does the giant tit brown really give two shits about a pearl jam ticket being sold on ebay for 5 times its worth or more'. sadly not.

The man is a moron, and we just have to start to accept that

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Erm, I wasn't really trying to get party political with that statement about the government not giving a fuck. I don't think a Tory government would give a shit either. There is a political class in this country to which nearly all MPs belong, and that class would view ticket touting as the kind of 'enterprise' that 'creates wealth' and keeps this country on its feet.
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Back on track… anyone got a spare

Absolutely agreed. and I wasnt having a go at you or anyone else, more so at the shambolic mess this country finds itself in.

For example the labour party recently sold a house to itself to create some money? did it pay stamp duty? no it used a stamp duty saving scheme that is frowned upon by the revenue as a loophole, basically shafting itself of £50k. really that is incredible. Rules it seems are only there to be broken

Dr Emmett Brown

goddess wrote:

Dr Emmett Brown wrote:

goddess wrote:

At least two of us have reports from confirmed sources that NO industry types have been allocated tickets for Shep Bush. If there ARE any going around they will have been few and far between despite previous shows...

I think I might be one of those two people, but just to reiterate, someone I know at a record label informs me that there are no tickets for this floating around at all

LOL sorry Doc, you were one Say - could you use your time machine to go back and get us all ticket? ;-)

I would, but the flux capacitor is broken...

SM244210

kevtic wrote:

Not everyone spends all ther waking mins on the net. it doesn't make you any more of fan because you sit and hit F5 in the vain hope a small club gig might be announced on your fav bands website.

I do however agree that maybe more of an effort could have been made to ensure more 10c members got tickets as you have shown a commitment to the band by becoming a fanclub member.

It's night on impossible to keep anything secret once it's on the net these days.

Sorry, I didn't mean to call someone who isnt checking the net for events not real fans. I know fans are not necessarily on the net often checking, i just think that having the dedication to check the page for things like that would be worth the possibility of making a gig and not paying extortionate prices for tickets.

SM244210

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

xnothingmanx wrote:

SM244210 wrote:

For example, smashing pumpkins played a gig at that venue a couple of years ago, didn’t send out emails and only listed the gig ten minutes before they went on sale. In that case, if you miss out because you haven’t been keeping one eye on the band you support, tough luck, and that way the touts don’t get nearly as many tickets. But this HMV circus, stupid lottery, and pathetic ticketweb sale encourages people who have been so unlucky to just splash out big money. It has to, ultimately, come down to the band.

Agree 100% with that. Only people on the mailing list new about it and tickets were only announced a day or two before on their website. No fanfare or stupid hmv link and I got tickets, through ticketweb, very easily. It snuck under the tout radar and only the hardcore fans knew about it. And this was their first gig here in 7 years! (Albeit minus darcy and james).

Yeah, nevermind the fact that Pearl Jam is trying to promote their new album or that the HMV sale got people to pre-order the album (regardless of how many of us may have then cancelled the order).

Ii doubt a single person who bought the album on pre-sale through HMV would not have went on to buy it anyway, in fact it couldn't be further than the audience they need to promote sales of the album to.

hubble2009

sibyl wrote:

hubble2009 wrote:

Not happy... lost out in the 10c lottery, got stitched up by HMV and then got held up on
I have now paid £200 on ebay for a ticket. The seller has SIX tickets!!
Fed up and skint!

One thing I have noticed, is that there are no LEVEL ONE tickets for sale. Who has those?
My guess is record industry plebs.

who's this seller? please!

He's sold out and the tickets are for LEVEL ONE, he made a mistake saying they were for stalls.
Putting my detective hat on, I would say he works in the music industry!!

ML

hubble2009 wrote:

He's sold out and the tickets are for LEVEL ONE, he made a mistake saying they were for stalls.
Putting my detective hat on, I would say he works in the music industry!!

I think so too, especially since all the ticket sales were limited to two per person.

pjbiz

blue_rain wrote:

pjbiz wrote:

Come on guys, doesn't all of this make you appreciate the ten club ticket purchase process more now?

(hi jason)

who's this?

redrock

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

Actually it is kinda interesting that there has been no word of any competitions yet. That was one of the first things were heard about the Astoria.

Besides 10C who else gave away tix?

SoonForgotten2

redrock wrote:

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

Actually it is kinda interesting that there has been no word of any competitions yet. That was one of the first things were heard about the Astoria.

Besides 10C who else gave away tix?

One of the first things that came out about that gig was some European radio station giving away tickets. Maybe a Dutch or French station, I can't recall exactly. There may or may not have been other competitions that followed, I sorta stopped paying attention after I secured my tickets.

Pegasus

goddess wrote:

At least two of us have reports from confirmed sources that NO industry types have been allocated tickets for Shep Bush. If there ARE any going around they will have been few and far between despite previous shows...

so how come NOT A SINGLE PERSON (point me to the post if someone has) so far has reported having tickets for Level 1?
that can only mean 1 thing and it's that it's been reserved for "VIPs", which includes industry type. The fact they might not have yet been allocated doesn't mean they haven't been reserved.

julesandian wrote:

Jammitt wrote:

They avoided answering my complaint about the huge profits touts make reselling tickets and my suggestion that it should be made illegal to sell tickets over their face value, which would solve the problem of touts making huge profits from fans, and also making sure fans only pay the recommended price of the event.

Surely this is the answer, if they won't make the whole business of touting illegal then it should be controlled, say 10% of face value added on at the most, so everyone has a chance to buy tickets. Lets face it who can afford to pay £200.00+ per ticket plus beer money, poster, t-shirt, accommodation, travel, especially if like me you need 2 tickets (gotta keep throwing it out there just in case!! ) especially when the face value is 400% less?

I have bought tickets from ebay before and I was grateful at the time, but it gets worse and worse each year.

so you're part of the problem.
Even if it was illegal (and it is to do so in the street in some parts of London.. doesn't stop them at all), they'd find ways around it.
It might limit the touting to the pros instead of every little opportunistic twat on eBay, but it won't eliminate it (and lets face it, it's the pros that get the best tickets, through backchannels we can't access).

The only way to stop touts is to not buy from them. ever.

pdh1978

Pegasus wrote:

The only way to stop touts is to not buy from them. ever.

Hear hear! (I don't think we'll ever convince the less moralistic people with too much money of this though...)

icemanap

We talk about policing the touts but the fuzz have bigger things to worry about, like doughnuts etc. I once went to see Incubus at Astoria, tickets sold out in minutes and ten or eleven touts were outside the venue. If any of you know the Astoria (god bless it's soul) it's a very small place and it was crawling with touts. Two police walked straight past and the tout even tried to sell to them.

The point being, if the cops don't do anything about it then this will just continue. You hear of people being taken to court for downloading things from Limewire etc but never for touting. Worth a debate in parliment I think...

Jennytree

So there's one person on Level 1!

facepollution wrote:

Idlewild wrote:

I noticed everyone is selling level 2 or 3 and stall standing. Level one will be for industry people but you'll never know they might release some in that area the night before the show

I got level 1......

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=103898&p=2400990&hilit=level+1#p2400990

pdalowsky

thats the first level one i saw, and if you check out getmein and all the other shit sites no one has these, not even ebay

facepollution

my bad, i got stalls standing not level one. I read that ticketmaster may still have an allocation

Lillou77

facepollution wrote:

my bad, i got stalls standing not level one. I read that ticketmaster may still have an allocation

Don't I seriously can't take it!.....so where did you read that?

philthehip

Hi folks, following on from all the fine work that AD has done and all the good feeling going around this thread in sad times for alot of you. I got to wondering if you people would be willing to pool some money to buy a pair of tickets? I used the maths of £5 for 77 people, which is how many are listed as needing a ticket. If I can get 77 of you, regardless of whether you got a ticket or not, to donate £5 I will put the final £15 (which is sitting on my desk as I write this) in to buy a pair which would be raffled off. I thought it would just help to make a couple more of us happy for that night?

Anyways if anyone is interested in doing this, let us know in the thread.

Take care