Obama Health Plan to tax the rich

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    average salaries for RN's are approaching $80K...where are you getting this $100K number?

    I thought we were talking about general practitioners. I was just correcting your gross exaggeration about the one you claim to know that makes 450k
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,460
    jlew24asu wrote:
    average salaries for RN's are approaching $80K...where are you getting this $100K number?

    I thought we were talking about general practitioners. I was just correcting your gross exaggeration about the one you claim to know that makes 450k

    he does make $450K....I'm not saying they all do I'm just saying that a system that allows that crap needs to be overhauled.
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  • ajedigecko
    ajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,431
    what do you think a fair salary should be for doctor?
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • _
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    jlew24asu wrote:
    those rankings are almost a decade old..... they stopped doing these rankings in 2000.

    if the government ran things you'd probably see trillions of dollars that dont belong there.... much more money will be wasted.

    we pay hospitals and doctors more than most other countries do.

    We rely more on costly specialists, who overuse advanced technologies, like CT scans and M.R.I. machines, and who resort to costly surgical or medical procedures a lot more than doctors in other countries do.

    the average salary of a general practitioner in this country is around $100k.

    Sources, please?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    scb wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    those rankings are almost a decade old..... they stopped doing these rankings in 2000.

    if the government ran things you'd probably see trillions of dollars that dont belong there.... much more money will be wasted.

    we pay hospitals and doctors more than most other countries do.

    We rely more on costly specialists, who overuse advanced technologies, like CT scans and M.R.I. machines, and who resort to costly surgical or medical procedures a lot more than doctors in other countries do.

    the average salary of a general practitioner in this country is around $100k.

    Sources, please?

    http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

    The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems was last produced in 2000, and the WHO no longer produces such a ranking table, because of the complexity of the task.


    http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job ... ner/Salary
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    he does make $450K....I'm not saying they all do I'm just saying that a system that allows that crap needs to be overhauled.

    no it doesnt. that person earns all the money that is paid to him/her. if you dont like it too bad, find someone else.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,460
    jlew24asu wrote:
    scb wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    those rankings are almost a decade old..... they stopped doing these rankings in 2000.

    if the government ran things you'd probably see trillions of dollars that dont belong there.... much more money will be wasted.

    we pay hospitals and doctors more than most other countries do.

    We rely more on costly specialists, who overuse advanced technologies, like CT scans and M.R.I. machines, and who resort to costly surgical or medical procedures a lot more than doctors in other countries do.

    the average salary of a general practitioner in this country is around $100k.

    Sources, please?

    http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

    The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems was last produced in 2000, and the WHO no longer produces such a ranking table, because of the complexity of the task.


    http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job ... ner/Salary

    yes it's complex and I really doubt if it has changed since then
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,460
    jlew24asu wrote:
    he does make $450K....I'm not saying they all do I'm just saying that a system that allows that crap needs to be overhauled.

    no it doesnt. that person earns all the money that is paid to him/her. if you dont like it too bad, find someone else.

    your opinion is that it doesn't....mine is that it does
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118

    yes it's complex and I really doubt if it has changed since then

    9 years is a long time. I bet alot has changed in that time
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118

    your opinion is that it doesn't....mine is that it does

    thats true. and you want to force your opinion on them and demand they take a lower salary.
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    jlew24asu wrote:

    yes it's complex and I really doubt if it has changed since then

    9 years is a long time. I bet alot has changed in that time

    What gives you that impression considering that our healthcare system hasn't really changed since then?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    scb wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:

    yes it's complex and I really doubt if it has changed since then

    9 years is a long time. I bet alot has changed in that time

    What gives you that impression considering that our healthcare system hasn't really changed since then?

    havent changed based on what exactly? like the WHO says, its too complex. so dont pretend to tell me you know that it hasn't. one thing that is always constant however is change. and we can all agree there have been huge technological advances in the past 10 years.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,460
    jlew24asu wrote:

    your opinion is that it doesn't....mine is that it does

    thats true. and you want to force your opinion on them and demand they take a lower salary.

    yes...greed must be stopped
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    jlew24asu wrote:
    scb wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    9 years is a long time. I bet alot has changed in that time

    What gives you that impression considering that our healthcare system hasn't really changed since then?

    havent changed based on what exactly? like the WHO says, its too complex. so dont pretend to tell me you know that it hasn't. one thing that is always constant however is change. and we can all agree there have been huge technological advances in the past 10 years.

    Geez Louise! :roll: I didn't "pretend to tell" you anything. I asked a simple fucking question.

    Our healthcare system hasn't changed in that we still have the same system. Regarding the technological advances, it's not like they've been limited to the U.S.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118

    yes...greed must be stopped

    its amazing to me that people like you think their opinions should be forced on others.
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    jlew24asu wrote:

    yes...greed must be stopped

    its amazing to me that people like you think their opinions should be forced on others.

    How are you not also forcing your opinions on others?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    scb wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:

    yes...greed must be stopped

    its amazing to me that people like you think their opinions should be forced on others.

    How are you not also forcing your opinions on others?

    I'm not forcing anything. if a doctor can me $450k a year good for them! you and gern want to be able to dictate how much Dr's can make.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,460
    jlew24asu wrote:

    yes...greed must be stopped

    its amazing to me that people like you think their opinions should be forced on others.

    aren't you forcing your opinion on me that it is ok for doctor's to rape the public and make $450K/year

    please stop forcing your beliefs on me
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    jlew24asu wrote:
    scb wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    its amazing to me that people like you think their opinions should be forced on others.

    How are you not also forcing your opinions on others?

    I'm not forcing anything. if a doctor can me $450k a year good for them! you and gern want to be able to dictate how much Dr's can make.

    Haha! I'm quite certain I never said any such thing.

    You seem to be having a bad day.
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    jlew24asu wrote:
    its amazing to me that people like you think their opinions should be forced on others.

    aren't you forcing your opinion on me that it is ok for doctor's to rape the public and make $450K/year

    please stop forcing your beliefs on me

    Pretty sure he's forcing his belief that those who don't have money shouldn't receive health care.