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  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,824
    redrock wrote:
    Jennytree wrote:
    I'm still curious about how this will work for international customers... will the album be stocked in normal music stores outside of the US?

    Target don't offer international shipping.

    Jenny... Somewhere it says it will be distributed by someone else but I can't remember who. We'll probably find it in the usual places.

    **goes to find out who...**

    In the Kelly Curtis interview it says "Curtis also confirmed that the band would tour to support this latest album, and that internationally, the album would be released via Universal Music Group."

    http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/exclusive-pearl-jam-confirms-target-tie-1003978374.story
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  • JJ13769
    JJ13769 Posts: 10
    TO ANSWER SOMEBODY'S QUESTION.....I DONT AND NEVER HAVE SHOPPED AT THOSE STORES. AND I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO DONT.
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    blinders.jpg

    That's not answering the question I asked you. Please DO THINK and tell me.....
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    JJ13769 wrote:
    TO ANSWER SOMEBODY'S QUESTION.....I DONT AND NEVER HAVE SHOPPED AT THOSE STORES. AND I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO DONT.

    Have you ever watched a movie? Attended a concert? Bought a pair of shoes? Bought a car? Put gas in that car? Paid for a newspaper? Googled something?

    Odds are ... gasp! ... you've dealt with an "evil multi-national corporation" .... BWAAAAAA!!!!!!
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    JJ13769 wrote:
    TO ANSWER SOMEBODY'S QUESTION.....I DONT AND NEVER HAVE SHOPPED AT THOSE STORES. AND I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO DONT.
    I refuse to shop there also, unless I have to. Support local business!!

    “If those in charge of our society - politicians, corporate executives, and owners of press and television - can dominate our ideas, they will be secure in their power. They will not need soldiers patrolling the streets. We will control ourselves.”

    Howard Zinn quote
  • Stephen Flow
    Stephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    JJ13769 wrote:
    TO ANSWER SOMEBODY'S QUESTION.....I DONT AND NEVER HAVE SHOPPED AT THOSE STORES. AND I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO DONT.

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  • U R A Crazy Breed
    U R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    redrock wrote:
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    blinders.jpg

    That's not answering the question I asked you. Please DO THINK and tell me.....

    i've explained this many times in the past few days and all the threads get deleted..i'm not wasting my time any more!! you are free to think as you choose..and i am free to do the same..let's leave it at that.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Jeanwah wrote:
    JJ13769 wrote:
    TO ANSWER SOMEBODY'S QUESTION.....I DONT AND NEVER HAVE SHOPPED AT THOSE STORES. AND I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO DONT.
    I refuse to shop there also, unless I have to. Support local business!!

    “If those in charge of our society - politicians, corporate executives, and owners of press and television - can dominate our ideas, they will be secure in their power. They will not need soldiers patrolling the streets. We will control ourselves.”

    Howard Zinn quote

    So all corporate executives are evil? How very George W. Bushian --- everything nice and tidy and black and white. How about Goodwill Industries? Are they evil?

    All or nothing is a very simple-minded view to take.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
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    I refuse to shop there also, unless I have to. Support local business!!

    “If those in charge of our society - politicians, corporate executives, and owners of press and television - can dominate our ideas, they will be secure in their power. They will not need soldiers patrolling the streets. We will control ourselves.”

    Howard Zinn quote

    So all corporate executives are evil? How very George W. Bushian --- everything nice and tidy and black and white. How about Goodwill Industries? Are they evil?

    All or nothing is a very simple-minded view to take.
    I refuse to waste any more time talking about this with someone who gladly shops at Walmart.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    Jeanwah wrote:
    JJ13769 wrote:
    TO ANSWER SOMEBODY'S QUESTION.....I DONT AND NEVER HAVE SHOPPED AT THOSE STORES. AND I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO DONT.
    I refuse to shop there also, unless I have to. Support local business!!

    “If those in charge of our society - politicians, corporate executives, and owners of press and television - can dominate our ideas, they will be secure in their power. They will not need soldiers patrolling the streets. We will control ourselves.”

    Howard Zinn quote


    come on... give me your own quote... dont follow... lead ;)

    local business need evil multi coporations

    i live in rural Scotland... its fucking dairy farms as far as the eye can see... the milk is collected, its then transoprted to a central company.. this company then sells the milk to Tesco, ASDA, etc (multi-billion pounds supermarket companies)... i then buy the milk from the big supermarket.

    ergo... thats how i support local businesses... i keep cow farmers in a fucking viable business... they should be naming udders after my kids.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • vduboise
    vduboise Posts: 1,937
    what about SOS (share our strength), Meals on Wheels, The food Bank... these are all corporations. Not saying that all are good and holy. But lets be reasonable, you've never shopped at these big companies?

    I'll be amazed that you've never. Its the way society is now. Yes, there are small companies, and I try to support them, but when I need something and the big chains have it, I'm going to go.

    Its not about the blinders- its about reality.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I refuse to waste any more time talking about this with someone who gladly shops at Walmart.

    How very enlightened of you. If you applied this to your everyday life, sooner or later you'd be mute.

    Which, come to think of it ...
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I refuse to waste any more time talking about this with someone who gladly shops at Walmart.

    How very enlightened of you. If you applied this to your everyday life, sooner or later you'd be mute.

    Which, come to think of it ...
    My point is that we'll never agree. So, I'm not going to try and get you to see my POV, not worth the effort.
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    vduboise wrote:
    what about SOS (share our strength), Meals on Wheels, The food Bank... these are all corporations. Not saying that all are good and holy. But lets be reasonable, you've never shopped at these big companies?

    I'll be amazed that you've never. Its the way society is now. Yes, there are small companies, and I try to support them, but when I need something and the big chains have it, I'm going to go.

    Its not about the blinders- its about reality.
    They aren't corporations, they are Non-Profits. BIG difference.
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    dunkman wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    JJ13769 wrote:
    TO ANSWER SOMEBODY'S QUESTION.....I DONT AND NEVER HAVE SHOPPED AT THOSE STORES. AND I KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO DONT.
    I refuse to shop there also, unless I have to. Support local business!!

    “If those in charge of our society - politicians, corporate executives, and owners of press and television - can dominate our ideas, they will be secure in their power. They will not need soldiers patrolling the streets. We will control ourselves.”

    Howard Zinn quote

    come on... give me your own quote... dont follow... lead ;)

    local business need evil multi coporations

    i live in rural Scotland... its fucking dairy farms as far as the eye can see... the milk is collected, its then transoprted to a central company.. this company then sells the milk to Tesco, ASDA, etc (multi-billion pounds supermarket companies)... i then buy the milk from the big supermarket.

    ergo... thats how i support local businesses... i keep cow farmers in a fucking viable business... they should be naming udders after my kids.
    Local business needs local customers, not corporations. The big guy does not do justice what they can do themselves. And I quoted Zinn, because Ed respects him so...or at least used to.
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    edited June 2009
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    That's not answering the question I asked you. Please DO THINK and tell me.....

    i've explained this many times in the past few days and all the threads get deleted..i'm not wasting my time any more!! you are free to think as you choose..and i am free to do the same..let's leave it at that.

    I was just asking a question... I'm not debating whether it is right or wrong, whether PJ should have a deal with Target or not, just asking a valid question. I don't know what you think the difference between the two corporations are and why one is OK and one isn't. I haven't seen that explanation in any of the threads - deleted or not. Enlighten me.

    EDIT: Maybe you can help Jeanwah ..... you and U R A Crazy Breed seem to be on similar levels (and I'm not saying this in any nasty/sarcastic way)
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Jeanwah wrote:
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I refuse to waste any more time talking about this with someone who gladly shops at Walmart.

    How very enlightened of you. If you applied this to your everyday life, sooner or later you'd be mute.

    Which, come to think of it ...
    My point is that we'll never agree. So, I'm not going to try and get you to see my POV, not worth the effort.

    Fair enough. Go ahead and be wrong all the time ;)
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • vduboise
    vduboise Posts: 1,937
    Jeanwah wrote:
    vduboise wrote:
    what about SOS (share our strength), Meals on Wheels, The food Bank... these are all corporations. Not saying that all are good and holy. But lets be reasonable, you've never shopped at these big companies?

    I'll be amazed that you've never. Its the way society is now. Yes, there are small companies, and I try to support them, but when I need something and the big chains have it, I'm going to go.

    Its not about the blinders- its about reality.
    They aren't corporations, they are Non-Profits. BIG difference.
    even tho they are non profits, they are a corporation. Because they do good, does that mean that they don't make money? They do- and ask for donations (which I choose to support), just as a choose to support others.
  • Stephen Flow
    Stephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    redrock wrote:
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    redrock wrote:
    That's not answering the question I asked you. Please DO THINK and tell me.....

    i've explained this many times in the past few days and all the threads get deleted..i'm not wasting my time any more!! you are free to think as you choose..and i am free to do the same..let's leave it at that.

    I was just asking a question... I'm not debating whether it is right or wrong, whether PJ should have a deal with Target or not, just asking a valid question. I don't know what you think the difference between the two corporations are and why one is OK and one isn't. I haven't seen that explanation in any of the threads - deleted or not. Enlighten me.

    Honestly it's REALLY easy to google stuff like this... I will do it.

    "Target Corporation is consistently ranked as one of the most philanthropic companies in the country. It ranked #11 in Fortune Magazine's "Top 20 Most Admired Companies" for 2007, largely in part to the donation efforts of the company as a whole."
  • Stephen Flow
    Stephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    According to a November 2005 Forbes article, it ranked as the highest cash-giving company in America in percentage of income given (2.1%).

    Target donates around 5 percent of its pre-tax operating profit; it gives over $3 million a week (up from $2 million in years prior) to the communities in which it operates.

    It also gives a percentage of charges from its Target Visa to schools designated by the cardholders.

    To date, Target has given over $150 million to schools across the United States through this program.

    Target's corporate by-laws state it must give 5 percent of its pre-tax profits to charity.

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