I just don't feel like it's the same band (to the fans) as it was years and years ago.
I read your entire post. This is the sentence I glommed onto. My response: No shit.
Bands, people, everybody changes over the span of 20 years. It's just natural.
I think the common thread you'll find about people wringing their hands over this, and over Target, and over Rock Band and over the Tonight Show is this: They all wish it was 1995 again.
The favorite band of their youth is changing, getting older. And what these fans are really bummed about is that it means THEY (the fans) are getting old, too. Every time Pearl Jam "changes" it's a subtle reminder that we're not young anymore.
I wonder if this is how Ed felt when The Who decided to lisence every damn song in their catalogue to CSI. I can't wait to hear "Squeeze Box" just before the start of CSI: Fargo some day.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
10c is out of ther minds to think they can control information about the band on the internet. Hopefully, the whole lesson here is that all the secrecy and censorship surrounding this story is incredibly counter-productive and only serves to whip the masses into a frenzy. I didn't even know about the target thing until my rss reader was flooded w/stories about posts mysteriously being deleted from pearl jam fan forums (from big sites like rollingstone.com). The insult was unprofessional, but the bigger insult was thinking they could bully us into not talking about it or getting information from other sources.
I'd just like to say one thing and I apologize for being off-topic.
MISINFORMATION is not ok. Not about the band. Not about you or your family or anyone...it's hurtful and that could happen to anyone some day since it spreads so quickly online. The information about Pearl Jam's album distribution was going to be announced. It always is. The FALSE story that was promoted by people online about Target exclusively distributing Pearl Jam's music is still out there though...and that is the problem with rumors and misinformation online. It's still being spread because of the internets. That's all...just a little point that seems to be getting lost. I hope I have contributed something...I'm out.
xo
Thank you for the info Kat.
Now can we have what you said as a sticky, to stop all of this? And can we have better communication so it doesn't get to this point in the future? It's not an unrealistic thing to ask for. Please?
From what I understand, this hubbub has absolutely nothing to do with "information," about Target or anything else. It has everything to do with a blogger posting unauthorized copyrighted material -- ie, an unreleased song -- on her blog and then refusing to take it down.
I think this is half correct. She did post unauthorized content. As far as I know though, she did take it down after being contacted (go click on the link now and you'll see what starts playing). She even acknowledged her repeated history of posting unauthorized content and being contacted by the PJ organization to remove the content on several occasions. I think the line should've been more clear for her.
It's not clear if she ever refused to take down the most recent stuff (to me at least) because she hasn't said that she did and 10C hasn't publicly said anything. As such it doesn't seem fair to say that she did refuse.
As I read it you're correct in that this has nothing directly to do with early "information" about the Target deal being leaked. It's more of a peripheral detail in that the audio of the recording is probably going to be copyrighted by either PJ or Target Corp for use in the Curtis-acknowledged advertisement (in-store or wider broadcast) and as such would require permission for distribution outside of the authorized means. It's hard to separate because the two issues ultimately are linked. I think that's why 10C has been drawing some fire. In order for the 10C to live up to their end of the deal they made with Target Corp they need to protect their contribution to the new relationship. Personally I don't have a problem at all with them doing this. I just think it could've been handled more professionally.
"A lot more people are capable of being big out there that just don't give themselves a chance." -Stone Gossard
I would like to follow up what I said with a positve.
I do appreciate the band, club, and fans. The music has done so much for me I'm unable to express it correctly. The club has gone out of their way for me multiple times. They work extremely hard. I've shared many joyous occasions with PJ fans I didn't know and most likely won't see again. When it comes down to it, that's what it's about.
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And one more thing....
PLEASE (because I try to remember my manners) knock off the harsh comments about any parties to this disagreement/situation. Heather and the Ten Club are real people with feelings and doing that is not ok. Name-calling has been removed and personal comments shouldn't happen again.
I just don't feel like it's the same band (to the fans) as it was years and years ago.
I read your entire post. This is the sentence I glommed onto. My response: No shit.
Bands, people, everybody changes over the span of 20 years. It's just natural.
I think the common thread you'll find about people wringing their hands over this, and over Target, and over Rock Band and over the Tonight Show is this: They all wish it was 1995 again.
The favorite band of their youth is changing, getting older. And what these fans are really bummed about is that it means THEY (the fans) are getting old, too. Every time Pearl Jam "changes" it's a subtle reminder that we're not young anymore.
I wonder if this is how Ed felt when The Who decided to lisence every damn song in their catalogue to CSI. I can't wait to hear "Squeeze Box" just before the start of CSI: Fargo some day.
Totally agree. Times are a changing. Either we change or get left behind. Are you the same as you were back in the day? I am not the same as I was 10 years ago, or a year ago. I don't expect the band to stay the same either.
I think this is half correct. She did post unauthorized content. As far as I know though, she did take it down after being contacted (go click on the link now and you'll see what starts playing). She even acknowledged her repeated history of posting unauthorized content and being contacted by the PJ organization to remove the content on several occasions. I think the line should've been more clear for her.
It's not clear if she ever refused to take down the most recent stuff (to me at least) because she hasn't said that she did and 10C hasn't publicly said anything. As such it doesn't seem fair to say that she did refuse.
Cool. Like I said, I don't think any of us know exactly how it all went down. I find it hard to believe they contacted her and said "Take it down." She said, "Sure. I'll do so right away, sir." And they then said, "Your blog is shitty."
Common sense seems to say there was another step somewhere in there, but who knows?
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
I'd just like to say one thing and I apologize for being off-topic.
MISINFORMATION is not ok. Not about the band. Not about you or your family or anyone...it's hurtful and that could happen to anyone some day since it spreads so quickly online. The information about Pearl Jam's album distribution was going to be announced. It always is. The FALSE story that was promoted by people online about Target exclusively distributing Pearl Jam's music is still out there though...and that is the problem with rumors and misinformation online. It's still being spread because of the internets. That's all...just a little point that seems to be getting lost. I hope I have contributed something...I'm out.
xo
THIS is how a professional handles information. This couldn't have been a more gracious way of interjecting something into a pretty heated topic.
"The FALSE story that was promoted by people online about Target exclusively distributing Pearl Jam's music is still out there though..."
I think this is the first time I've seen it acknowledged that there will not be exclusive distribution by Target. Anyone else or am I alone in how I read this?
"A lot more people are capable of being big out there that just don't give themselves a chance." -Stone Gossard
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Thank you for the info Kat.
Now can we have what you said as a sticky, to stop all of this? And can we have better communication so it doesn't get to this point in the future? It's not an unrealistic thing to ask for. Please?
It always comes but it comes when it's ready and it shouldn't come sooner. You don't eat an apple pie that's half-baked, do you? The fruit must first be gently washed and peeled and lovingly sliced and diced and the dough created with the perfect ratio of ingredients so that it will be a flaky masterpiece cradling the fruit and complimenting each tasty bite. It's art...like anyone's job can be if we try.
And you know that everyone involved wants you all to enjoy and savor every tasty morsel for as long as it can last.
I find it hard to believe they contacted her and said "Take it down." She said, "Sure. I'll do so right away, sir." And they then said, "Your blog is shitty."
Common sense seems to say there was another step somewhere in there, but who knows?
Too right. That's a pretty logical way to look at things. Nice!
"A lot more people are capable of being big out there that just don't give themselves a chance." -Stone Gossard
I'd just like to say one thing and I apologize for being off-topic.
MISINFORMATION is not ok. Not about the band. Not about you or your family or anyone...it's hurtful and that could happen to anyone some day since it spreads so quickly online. The information about Pearl Jam's album distribution was going to be announced. It always is. The FALSE story that was promoted by people online about Target exclusively distributing Pearl Jam's music is still out there though...and that is the problem with rumors and misinformation online. It's still being spread because of the internets. That's all...just a little point that seems to be getting lost. I hope I have contributed something...I'm out.
xo
THIS is how a professional handles information. This couldn't have been a more gracious way of interjecting something into a pretty heated topic.
"The FALSE story that was promoted by people online about Target exclusively distributing Pearl Jam's music is still out there though..."
I think this is the first time I've seen it acknowledged that there will not be exclusive distribution by Target. Anyone else or am I alone in how I read this?
Well, it's not exclusive by Target, because according to the Kelly Curtis interview, independent record stores will still be involved. Plus, Target isn't handling overseas distribution, either.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
I think that's why 10C has been drawing some fire. In order for the 10C to live up to their end of the deal they made with Target Corp they need to protect their contribution to the new relationship. Personally I don't have a problem at all with them doing this. I just think it could've been handled more professionally.
Exactly. I definitely agree that the band has the right to conduct their business in any way they see fit. And I know it must've been hard for the 10C troops to be caught between the band and the fans, but I had posts that had nothing to do with disseminating misinformation, which didn't discuss new music at all, and had no links deleted with "We do not point to sites that link to bootlegged music" as an explanation. The band doesn't owe me anything, but as a paying member of their fan club I felt I deserved at least some clarification. Hopefully we can all learn from the experience and move on.
I'd just like to say one thing and I apologize for being off-topic.
MISINFORMATION is not ok. Not about the band. Not about you or your family or anyone...it's hurtful and that could happen to anyone some day since it spreads so quickly online. The information about Pearl Jam's album distribution was going to be announced. It always is. The FALSE story that was promoted by people online about Target exclusively distributing Pearl Jam's music is still out there though...and that is the problem with rumors and misinformation online. It's still being spread because of the internets. That's all...just a little point that seems to be getting lost. I hope I have contributed something...I'm out.
xo
no need to apologize, this is completely ON topic. I think a lot of people's problem, myself included, is the official reaction to the misinformation once the rumor has started. Instead of just coming on and saying, "this rumor is false," threads start getting deleted, and there is just one more thing we're not allowed to discuss. But we don't really understand why, so you end up with a lot of "Big Brother is watching...." threads.
If there is a false rumor out there, just say, "this rumor is false. details will be announced at the proper time. please discuss." We are your biggest fans, your base, and we come here specifically to discuss these little things that excite us that nobody else cares about. Like 20 seconds of poorly recorded new material. Handling things in this manner only serves to alienate us, and cause a tiny situation to balloon into a tornado of bitching.
It always comes but it comes when it's ready and it shouldn't come sooner. You don't eat an apple pie that's half-baked, do you? The fruit must first be gently washed and peeled and lovingly sliced and diced and the dough created with the perfect ratio of ingredients so that it will be a flaky masterpiece cradling the fruit and complimenting each tasty bite. It's art...like anyone's job can be if we try.
And you know that everyone involved wants you all to enjoy and savor every tasty morsel for as long as it can last.
xo
It's funny... I have the feeling that we're in for something big here. I'm starting to read it as this:
PJ didn't actually strike an exclusive distro deal with Target Corp seeing how they are still working to include independent record stores. Rather, they negotiated a deal where Target Corp would have to agree to perform several charitable acts and agree to handle their operations in a greener (for lack of a better term) way. PJ benefits from getting the dedicated promotional backing of a retailer that is in nearly every U.S. market. Target benefits by getting some exclusive content to drive people to their stores. We all benefit from the charitable giving and more efficient/greener distribution of goods to Target stores.
"Target ended up allowing us to have other partners. We'll be able to take care of all levels of the Pearl Jam fan...We wish we could tell the whole story right now, but all the deals aren't done. Target was cool enough to realize that little independent record stores are not their competition."
-Kelly Curtis, Billboard online, http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/exclusive-pearl-jam-confirms-target-tie-1003978374.story
"A lot more people are capable of being big out there that just don't give themselves a chance." -Stone Gossard
I think this is the first time I've seen it acknowledged that there will not be exclusive distribution by Target. Anyone else or am I alone in how I read this?
Thank you for the info Kat.
Now can we have what you said as a sticky, to stop all of this? And can we have better communication so it doesn't get to this point in the future? It's not an unrealistic thing to ask for. Please?
It always comes but it comes when it's ready and it shouldn't come sooner. You don't eat an apple pie that's half-baked, do you? The fruit must first be gently washed and peeled and lovingly sliced and diced and the dough created with the perfect ratio of ingredients so that it will be a flaky masterpiece cradling the fruit and complimenting each tasty bite. It's art...like anyone's job can be if we try.
And you know that everyone involved wants you all to enjoy and savor every tasty morsel for as long as it can last.
xo
I agree, we should/could wait until the finished product is ready. All I'm asking is for better and possibly more communication. That's all. There's no harm in communicating.
It always comes but it comes when it's ready and it shouldn't come sooner. You don't eat an apple pie that's half-baked, do you? The fruit must first be gently washed and peeled and lovingly sliced and diced and the dough created with the perfect ratio of ingredients so that it will be a flaky masterpiece cradling the fruit and complimenting each tasty bite. It's art...like anyone's job can be if we try.
And you know that everyone involved wants you all to enjoy and savor every tasty morsel for as long as it can last.
If there is a false rumor out there, just say, "this rumor is false. details will be announced at the proper time. please discuss." We are your biggest fans, your base, and we come here specifically to discuss these little things that excite us that nobody else cares about. Like 20 seconds of poorly recorded new material. Handling things in this manner only serves to alienate us, and cause a tiny situation to balloon into a tornado of bitching.
deleting threads is reacting/responding to this kind of stuff. and that does WAY more harm than good, IMO.
I understand, and you might be right. But I think them officially speaking/responding to these kinds of rumors would encourage more of them, and that there's nothing they could say that would satisfy people.
"They said ... timing was everything
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
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If there is a false rumor out there, just say, "this rumor is false. details will be announced at the proper time. please discuss."
That's completely reasonable, but I think them reacting/responding to this kind of stuff would do more harm than good. Pissing into the wind.
One can't come out and say this rumor is false when part of it is true but it's not time yet to confirm anything because the arrangements haven't been completed and, and, and...
It's just not possible, I'm sorry...I really am. Again, Patience is Good.
I think this is the first time I've seen it acknowledged that there will not be exclusive distribution by Target. Anyone else or am I alone in how I read this?
Nope.. Curtis said so in his interview.
Sorry I should have clarified. I meant exclusive distribution by big box retailers. I understand that independent record stores are not going to be shut out on this one and never were. I am probably splitting hairs here but the sentence "including Target as the "big box" retail partner" doesn't actually exclude other big box partners. To me it just means that the PJ organization is going to make a joint marketing push with Target instead of others, where people will still be able to buy the new album. I know I'm probably wrong but it is something that just occurred to me.
"Kelly Curtis, who has managed Pearl Jam since day one, conducted a wide-ranging interview with Billboard on Sunday night, confirming that the band's next release - rumored to be called "Backspacer" and currently scheduled for an early fall release - would come without a U.S. label, but a consortium of partners, including Target as the "big box" retail partner." http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/exclusive-pearl-jam-confirms-target-tie-1003978374.story
"A lot more people are capable of being big out there that just don't give themselves a chance." -Stone Gossard
It always comes but it comes when it's ready and it shouldn't come sooner. You don't eat an apple pie that's half-baked, do you? The fruit must first be gently washed and peeled and lovingly sliced and diced and the dough created with the perfect ratio of ingredients so that it will be a flaky masterpiece cradling the fruit and complimenting each tasty bite. It's art...like anyone's job can be if we try.
And you know that everyone involved wants you all to enjoy and savor every tasty morsel for as long as it can last.
I think this is the first time I've seen it acknowledged that there will not be exclusive distribution by Target. Anyone else or am I alone in how I read this?
Nope.. Curtis said so in his interview.
Sorry I should have clarified. I meant exclusive distribution by big box retailers. I understand that independent record stores are not going to be shut out on this one and never were. I am probably splitting hairs here but the sentence "including Target as the "big box" retail partner" doesn't actually exclude other big box partners. To me it just means that the PJ organization is going to make a joint marketing push with Target instead of others, where people will still be able to buy the new album. I know I'm probably wrong but it is something that just occurred to me.
"Kelly Curtis, who has managed Pearl Jam since day one, conducted a wide-ranging interview with Billboard on Sunday night, confirming that the band's next release - rumored to be called "Backspacer" and currently scheduled for an early fall release - would come without a U.S. label, but a consortium of partners, including Target as the "big box" retail partner." http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/exclusive-pearl-jam-confirms-target-tie-1003978374.story
I read that as Target will be the only big-box retailer to carry the album.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
I understand that independent record stores are not going to be shut out on this one and never were. I am probably splitting hairs here but the sentence including Target as the "big box" retail partner"
I understand, and you might be right. But I think them officially speaking/responding to these kinds of rumors would encourage more of them, and that there's nothing they could say that would satisfy people.
It is definitely tricky, and I'm glad it's not my job. It's easy to criticize from my living room..hahaha...plus I'm sure hind sight is 20/20 in a lot of these cases. There are many different ways to address the situation, but banning talking about something does several things - it validates the rumor, it causes more people to talk about it more than they would have otherwise, and it alienates the people that love Pearl jam most.
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I read your entire post. This is the sentence I glommed onto. My response: No shit.
Bands, people, everybody changes over the span of 20 years. It's just natural.
I think the common thread you'll find about people wringing their hands over this, and over Target, and over Rock Band and over the Tonight Show is this: They all wish it was 1995 again.
The favorite band of their youth is changing, getting older. And what these fans are really bummed about is that it means THEY (the fans) are getting old, too. Every time Pearl Jam "changes" it's a subtle reminder that we're not young anymore.
I wonder if this is how Ed felt when The Who decided to lisence every damn song in their catalogue to CSI. I can't wait to hear "Squeeze Box" just before the start of CSI: Fargo some day.
for the least they could possibly do
I didn't start it. I attempted to respond to it. Thanks for the info, though.
Now can we have what you said as a sticky, to stop all of this? And can we have better communication so it doesn't get to this point in the future? It's not an unrealistic thing to ask for. Please?
I think this is half correct. She did post unauthorized content. As far as I know though, she did take it down after being contacted (go click on the link now and you'll see what starts playing). She even acknowledged her repeated history of posting unauthorized content and being contacted by the PJ organization to remove the content on several occasions. I think the line should've been more clear for her.
It's not clear if she ever refused to take down the most recent stuff (to me at least) because she hasn't said that she did and 10C hasn't publicly said anything. As such it doesn't seem fair to say that she did refuse.
As I read it you're correct in that this has nothing directly to do with early "information" about the Target deal being leaked. It's more of a peripheral detail in that the audio of the recording is probably going to be copyrighted by either PJ or Target Corp for use in the Curtis-acknowledged advertisement (in-store or wider broadcast) and as such would require permission for distribution outside of the authorized means. It's hard to separate because the two issues ultimately are linked. I think that's why 10C has been drawing some fire. In order for the 10C to live up to their end of the deal they made with Target Corp they need to protect their contribution to the new relationship. Personally I don't have a problem at all with them doing this. I just think it could've been handled more professionally.
I do appreciate the band, club, and fans. The music has done so much for me I'm unable to express it correctly. The club has gone out of their way for me multiple times. They work extremely hard. I've shared many joyous occasions with PJ fans I didn't know and most likely won't see again. When it comes down to it, that's what it's about.
PLEASE (because I try to remember my manners) knock off the harsh comments about any parties to this disagreement/situation. Heather and the Ten Club are real people with feelings and doing that is not ok. Name-calling has been removed and personal comments shouldn't happen again.
That is all...I hope.
Cool. Like I said, I don't think any of us know exactly how it all went down. I find it hard to believe they contacted her and said "Take it down." She said, "Sure. I'll do so right away, sir." And they then said, "Your blog is shitty."
Common sense seems to say there was another step somewhere in there, but who knows?
for the least they could possibly do
THIS is how a professional handles information. This couldn't have been a more gracious way of interjecting something into a pretty heated topic.
I think this is the first time I've seen it acknowledged that there will not be exclusive distribution by Target. Anyone else or am I alone in how I read this?
It always comes but it comes when it's ready and it shouldn't come sooner. You don't eat an apple pie that's half-baked, do you? The fruit must first be gently washed and peeled and lovingly sliced and diced and the dough created with the perfect ratio of ingredients so that it will be a flaky masterpiece cradling the fruit and complimenting each tasty bite. It's art...like anyone's job can be if we try.
And you know that everyone involved wants you all to enjoy and savor every tasty morsel for as long as it can last.
xo
Too right. That's a pretty logical way to look at things. Nice!
Well, it's not exclusive by Target, because according to the Kelly Curtis interview, independent record stores will still be involved. Plus, Target isn't handling overseas distribution, either.
for the least they could possibly do
The band played a song on a late night show....
NOTHING MORE...NOTHING LESS!!!!!
They are going to release new music in a few months......
NOTHING MORE....NOTHING LESS!!!!!!!!!!!
They are going to play some concerts in a few months.........
NOTHING MORE .....NOTHING LESS!!!!!!!!!
Is this getting out of hand?????
GIVE ME A BREAK....
"Out of hand" is a fucking understatement.............
There are a lot of people here who need to go outside and breathe in some fresh air............
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
no need to apologize, this is completely ON topic. I think a lot of people's problem, myself included, is the official reaction to the misinformation once the rumor has started. Instead of just coming on and saying, "this rumor is false," threads start getting deleted, and there is just one more thing we're not allowed to discuss. But we don't really understand why, so you end up with a lot of "Big Brother is watching...." threads.
If there is a false rumor out there, just say, "this rumor is false. details will be announced at the proper time. please discuss." We are your biggest fans, your base, and we come here specifically to discuss these little things that excite us that nobody else cares about. Like 20 seconds of poorly recorded new material. Handling things in this manner only serves to alienate us, and cause a tiny situation to balloon into a tornado of bitching.
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It's funny... I have the feeling that we're in for something big here. I'm starting to read it as this:
PJ didn't actually strike an exclusive distro deal with Target Corp seeing how they are still working to include independent record stores. Rather, they negotiated a deal where Target Corp would have to agree to perform several charitable acts and agree to handle their operations in a greener (for lack of a better term) way. PJ benefits from getting the dedicated promotional backing of a retailer that is in nearly every U.S. market. Target benefits by getting some exclusive content to drive people to their stores. We all benefit from the charitable giving and more efficient/greener distribution of goods to Target stores.
"Target ended up allowing us to have other partners. We'll be able to take care of all levels of the Pearl Jam fan...We wish we could tell the whole story right now, but all the deals aren't done. Target was cool enough to realize that little independent record stores are not their competition."
-Kelly Curtis, Billboard online, http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/exclusive-pearl-jam-confirms-target-tie-1003978374.story
That's completely reasonable, but I think them reacting/responding to this kind of stuff would do more harm than good. Pissing into the wind.
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
Nope.. Curtis said so in his interview.
EDIT: Notes this was already answered.
I agree, we should/could wait until the finished product is ready. All I'm asking is for better and possibly more communication. That's all. There's no harm in communicating.
ooooOOOOoooo Kat... got my mouth watering!!
deleting threads is reacting/responding to this kind of stuff. and that does WAY more harm than good, IMO.
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exactly.
Very well said.
I understand, and you might be right. But I think them officially speaking/responding to these kinds of rumors would encourage more of them, and that there's nothing they could say that would satisfy people.
made him ... want to be everywhere
there's a ... lot to be said for nowhere."
One can't come out and say this rumor is false when part of it is true but it's not time yet to confirm anything because the arrangements haven't been completed and, and, and...
It's just not possible, I'm sorry...I really am. Again, Patience is Good.
Sorry I should have clarified. I meant exclusive distribution by big box retailers. I understand that independent record stores are not going to be shut out on this one and never were. I am probably splitting hairs here but the sentence "including Target as the "big box" retail partner" doesn't actually exclude other big box partners. To me it just means that the PJ organization is going to make a joint marketing push with Target instead of others, where people will still be able to buy the new album. I know I'm probably wrong but it is something that just occurred to me.
"Kelly Curtis, who has managed Pearl Jam since day one, conducted a wide-ranging interview with Billboard on Sunday night, confirming that the band's next release - rumored to be called "Backspacer" and currently scheduled for an early fall release - would come without a U.S. label, but a consortium of partners, including Target as the "big box" retail partner."
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/exclusive-pearl-jam-confirms-target-tie-1003978374.story
mmmmmm apple pie,
I read that as Target will be the only big-box retailer to carry the album.
for the least they could possibly do
'the' not 'a'....
Yep... seems we are splitting hairs
indeed it is.
and in this instantaneous internet world we live in, it truly has become a virture we have lost.
It is definitely tricky, and I'm glad it's not my job. It's easy to criticize from my living room..hahaha...plus I'm sure hind sight is 20/20 in a lot of these cases. There are many different ways to address the situation, but banning talking about something does several things - it validates the rumor, it causes more people to talk about it more than they would have otherwise, and it alienates the people that love Pearl jam most.
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