Is this getting out of hand now?

Zoso
Zoso Posts: 6,425
edited June 2009 in The Porch
http://www.fuelfriendsblog.com/ - i think so. discuss
I'm just flying around the other side of the world to say I love you

Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl

I love you forever and forever :)

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  • Snoopy Died For Our Sins
    Snoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    I'M VERKLEMPT....talk amognst yourselves :lol:
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    tim (not you zoso) needs to stop blowup up to fans...."shitty blog"...not very mature
  • Zoso
    Zoso Posts: 6,425
    norm wrote:
    tim (not you zoso) needs to stop blowup up to fans...."shitty blog"...not very mature

    seriosuly bad pratice.
    I'm just flying around the other side of the world to say I love you

    Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl

    I love you forever and forever :)

    Adel 03 Melb 1 03 LA 2 06 Santa Barbara 06 Gorge 1 06 Gorge 2 06 Adel 1 06 Adel 2 06 Camden 1 08 Camden 2 08 Washington DC 08 Hartford 08
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Not cool that he called it a shitty blog ... so not cool ...

    that said ... I'm glad she backpedaled a bit, I posted on her blog yesterday and she responded to me. Her message today sounds pretty much in line with my thoughts yesterday.

    I understand she is just a crazed fan, longing for the days of tape trading ... but, this was different.

    In this a.d.d., throw away society ... there are plenty of people that will take that recording at face value, make a decision and move on. That's not what the band really wants. They'd like to release the material when it's finished.

    I understand, everyone wants to be the first to break the story, to get it out there ... I think a lot of bloggers feel one big scoop could get you noticed, and potentially, famous (see that shitty Perez Hilton for one).

    Not saying she's a part of that mentality ... but, I do agree with the band that having a crappy ass recording of a song being leaked, which is part of a contractual agreement no less, needs to be dealt with.

    I hope they pay her back with an exclusive (interview, some band news, etc) ... that would be cool.

    But, yeah ... this completely got overblown.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    well said jim
  • brainofc
    brainofc Posts: 60
    If this is true and the person she was talking to was from the 10c, then that is total bush league.
  • bobasfeet
    bobasfeet Posts: 1,197
    Sometimes...it's just the way you deal with the situation.

    Be nice boys...she loves you guys. (I hope still)

    Heather...I hope some other more sensitive party in the band's camp reaches out to you

    and restores your faith in one of the best "fan" oriented bands of all time.

    So sad.
  • LoveBoatAdmiral
    LoveBoatAdmiral Posts: 1,191
    edited June 2009
    jimed14 wrote:
    Not cool that he called it a shitty blog ... so not cool ...

    that said ... I'm glad she backpedaled a bit, I posted on her blog yesterday and she responded to me. Her message today sounds pretty much in line with my thoughts yesterday.

    I understand she is just a crazed fan, longing for the days of tape trading ... but, this was different.

    In this a.d.d., throw away society ... there are plenty of people that will take that recording at face value, make a decision and move on. That's not what the band really wants. They'd like to release the material when it's finished.

    I understand, everyone wants to be the first to break the story, to get it out there ... I think a lot of bloggers feel one big scoop could get you noticed, and potentially, famous (see that shitty Perez Hilton for one).

    Not saying she's a part of that mentality ... but, I do agree with the band that having a crappy ass recording of a song being leaked, which is part of a contractual agreement no less, needs to be dealt with.

    I hope they pay her back with an exclusive (interview, some band news, etc) ... that would be cool.

    But, yeah ... this completely got overblown.


    You make a great point in that they owe her some sort of exclusive. Much of the hardcore fan base's rabidness (and 10C or PJ can't afford to be alienating any of their fan base at this point) stems from the fact that the band and the 10C have been so tight lipped on EVERYTHING. If we got information from them, no matter how vague or trite, instead of having to hunt it down and be told from 3rd, 4th or 5th party sources, or were given a heads up as in "hey guys, album news in a couple of weeks!", there would not be such a furvor created or would the rumors get wild and out of hand quickly. PJ and 10C have the right to protect their product, but they need to realize they feed into their problem as much as anyone. I think that's why some fans think, perhaps correctly, that they band is more interested in keeping Target happy rather than the fans at this point.
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    I think they had every right to say her blog was shitty. She basically reported a bunch of rumors and sold PJ down the river, no?
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    DewieCox wrote:
    I think they had every right to say her blog was shitty. She basically reported a bunch of rumors and sold PJ down the river, no?

    It just doesn't have to be done like that, she's a fan first and foremost ... a little respect goes a long way.
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    DewieCox wrote:
    I think they had every right to say her blog was shitty. She basically reported a bunch of rumors and sold PJ down the river, no?


    let me guess....you don't work in public relations? ;):D
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    10c or whoever coulda handled it better, but she used somethin negative about them to get alotta traffic to her blog. Why does she deserve better? I get that they should be trying reach out to people like her, more, as she seems to be a huge music fan, but on the same token, fans like her only speak for about 1% of PJ fanbase, so screw em.
  • HeavyHands
    HeavyHands Posts: 2,131
    "a shitty blog"

    That's just plain bad form. I genuinely hope that the band and organization is embarrassed to be represented by this. It is bush league as someone posted above. And not in a humorous Will Ferrel as Ron Burgundy way...

    Is it necessary to lose your temper like this (whomever you are)? The girl was excited about hearing some new music and you made her cry. If you're worried about the legal implications of a violation of a business agreement between you and the other business you made it with than simply say that. I'd be willing to bet HB would have understood and been happy to oblige. "Even if I disagree with the seeming crackdown on fandom on this tour by the powers that be, I am willing to ultimately comply as per my stated blog policy." (http://www.fuelfriendsblog.com/2008/04/11/lucky-stars-in-your-eyes-eddie-vedder-in-berkeley-04-07-08/) Oh, wait... You've done this before and it worked...

    Everyone makes mistakes though, right 10C? I hope you learned something from this. It appears that you have because she posted this today: "I spoke with a representative from the Pearl Jam Ten Club management today on the phone for about thirty minutes, responding back to a voicemail he left on my cell phone yesterday shortly after my amended post went up, saying they were “saddened” by the developments and asking if I would please call them back." (http://www.fuelfriendsblog.com/2009/06/02/theres-a-war-outside-still-raging-it-aint-ours-anymore-to-win/)

    A shitty blog? A shitty what?

    Bad form, 10C. You can do better. :|
    "A lot more people are capable of being big out there that just don't give themselves a chance." -Stone Gossard
  • covered in bliss
    covered in bliss chi-caw-go Posts: 1,332
    She's a talented writer and it's great that she loves music so much.

    With that said, why did she put the info up in the first place? Really. When they demanded that the first 2 mp3's be yanked immediately... don't you think twice about putting up a 3rd? thinking that PJ somehow "owes" her something is laughable and nothing will ever happen. If it does, everyone and their mother would start posting illegally taped audio and blogging about it.
  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Whomever on PJ's behalf enjoys calling a fan page a "shitty blog" should be reconsidered for their position with the band. C'mon PJ's representative - grow up.

    " The term he used was “opening the presents before Christmastime.” "


    I'd rather opening the presents before Christmas time rather than 5 months past Christmastime, which is how PJ operates - literally.
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  • HeavyHands
    HeavyHands Posts: 2,131
    covered in bliss wrote:
    She's a talented writer and it's great that she loves music so much.

    With that said, why did she put the info up in the first place? Really. When they demanded that the first 2 mp3's be yanked immediately... don't you think twice about putting up a 3rd? thinking that PJ somehow "owes" her something is laughable and nothing will ever happen. If it does, everyone and their mother would start posting illegally taped audio and blogging about it.

    I agree with your point... She should've known better and she did let excitement cloud her judgment when she chose to post that stuff.

    And while I agree and don't think that the organization owes her anything, an apology for denigrating her work would be the right thing to give her.
    "A lot more people are capable of being big out there that just don't give themselves a chance." -Stone Gossard
  • PearlJamPatriot
    PearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Whomever on PJ's behalf enjoys calling a fan page a "shitty blog" should be reconsidered for their position with the band. C'mon PJ's representative - grow up.

    " The term he used was “opening the presents before Christmastime.” "


    I'd rather opening the presents before Christmas time rather than 5 months past Christmastime, which is how PJ operates - literally.
    Really disgusting that a fan club rep would say that IMO. And you are exactly right CJMST3K about operating 5 months after Christmas. It does seem that way recently.
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  • FW46778
    FW46778 Posts: 227
    It is only a band. people need to relax.
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  • supersonicyears
    supersonicyears Posts: 2,619
    PearlJamPatriot wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Whomever on PJ's behalf enjoys calling a fan page a "shitty blog" should be reconsidered for their position with the band. C'mon PJ's representative - grow up.

    " The term he used was “opening the presents before Christmastime.” "


    I'd rather opening the presents before Christmas time rather than 5 months past Christmastime, which is how PJ operates - literally.
    Really disgusting that a fan club rep would say that IMO. And you are exactly right CJMST3K about operating 5 months after Christmas. It does seem that way recently.
    You know, you guys could always just say fuck it, leave and join the Michael Bolten Fan Club. :lol:
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  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    TheBeach wrote:
    PearlJamPatriot wrote:
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Whomever on PJ's behalf enjoys calling a fan page a "shitty blog" should be reconsidered for their position with the band. C'mon PJ's representative - grow up.

    " The term he used was “opening the presents before Christmastime.” "


    I'd rather opening the presents before Christmas time rather than 5 months past Christmastime, which is how PJ operates - literally.
    Really disgusting that a fan club rep would say that IMO. And you are exactly right CJMST3K about operating 5 months after Christmas. It does seem that way recently.
    You know, you guys could always just say fuck it, leave and join the Michael Bolten Fan Club. :lol:


    who says I can't have both? 8-)
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