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    LOITERINGLOITERING Posts: 120
    Seeing as I'm a Mason I should be able to clear this all up...except it's a secret. Please PM any questions and I'd be happy to answer what I can :D
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    LOITERING wrote:
    Seeing as I'm a Mason I should be able to clear this all up...except it's a secret. Please PM any questions and I'd be happy to answer what I can :D

    I found THIS ARTICLE to be VERY INFORMATIVE.
    VERY VERY INFORMATIVE, indeed.

    The Freemasons Monthly Magazine
    Hit "Back Issues" at the top, and pick JUNE 1855.
    Read the article on the page that defaults to your view:
    "Our Past, Present, and Future"

    This is Masonic Journals Online, and it is an archive of (supposedly, most still aren't up yet) a plethora of 19th century Masonic publications.

    This article, written by a mason, for a mason, is littered with telling passages that MAKE IT CLEAR that masons themselves consider their organization as BEING BEHIND EVERY MAJOR REPUBLIC IN WORLD HISTORY, starting with the pre-diaspora Jews, the Egyptian Empire (i guess all of them?) and Assyria and running on through Rome, Greece, England and Europe at large, and up to and including the United States.

    Of course, THEY CLAIM IT IS ALL BENEVOLENT AND HONORABLE, but they do concede to near omnipresence behind the scenes of world empire.

    I have to be honest,
    if i knew the masons ONLY to do as per what they claimed in some of their most high-minded literature, i would have NO problem with the organization. In FACT, I WOULD PROBABLY JOIN TOMORROW!

    HOWEVER:
    THEY LIE REPEATEDLY, AND THEY LIE BIG.
    THEY LIE TO THE PUBLIC, AND THEY LIE TO INITIATES.

    Check this site out:
    masonicinfo.com - "Present Anti-Masons"
    This web page, clearly made by and in support of masons, IS SO FULL OF LIES AND DIS-INFO, AND "REVERSE HATE-SPEECH" THAT I CAN'T EVEN PICK A STARTING POINT.

    But lets try.
    Today, information about Freemasonry is spread by the internet. Much of it, unfortunately, is false. On our website, we have tried to present information which will help the intelligent reader decide what is right. If you can believe that a group of 70 year old grandfathers are going off once a month to worship lucifer or plot to finally take over the world after some three hundred years of their organization's existence, we doubt that the information contained here will be of much interest to you. If, on the other hand, you'd like to find out the truth about the objections and objectors to Freemasonry, you've come to the right place.

    WHAT A JOKE.
    I just showed you a link to a masonic journal from the 1800's that CLAIMS LINEAGE BACK TO EGYPT AND ASSYRIA. Do the math yourself, but "three hundred years old" is roughly TWO THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED YEARS off the mark, give or take.

    If you want to claim he said, she said, i can give you a half dozen other sources which claim the masonic fraternity to run back to Mesopotamia. I've already showed you all the Aachen Cathedral with the Masonic Eye which is from circa 900bc. Thats several hundred years older as well.

    So here we have a masonic website, LYING OUTRIGHT in public, to try and fool people.
    What next?

    Well:
    Our research in preparing this site has led us to conclude, regretfully, that most anti-Masons are not 'one trick ponies' and that their hatred extends into other areas as well. One Mason has commented: "Scratch an anti-Mason and you'll find an anti-Semite!" We believe that this is pretty accurate - although not all anti-Masons will admit to harboring hatred towards the Jews.
    ]

    HOLY SHIT!
    Hate the idea of a secretive organization that always seems to pop up in queer places? YOU ARE AN ANTI-SEMITE! Nevermind that 90% of "jews" aren't even fucking semitic any more, you hate jews!

    But lets go back to the masonic journal from 1855 for a second:
    [...]and thus common sense alone suffices in this view to substantiate our claim to a very high antiquity, without having recourse to corroboration from Masonic marks and positions found upon the Pyramids of Egypt, or to the no less palpable evidence that such a Fraternity must have been assembled prior to any great dispersion of the Jewish nation, in order to account for its presence over the whole world, wherever Israelitish connection is, however remotely, traceable.

    So, lets make this clear.
    Freemasons IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL CORRESPONDENCE CLAIM DIRECT LINKAGE TO THE JEWS.
    Publicly, they seem to distance themselves completely, and simply say "most anti-masons are ALSO anti-semites" as if you are just an equal opportunity hater or something.

    BUT THEY SEEM TO BE DEEPLY CONNECTED.
    If you found out that one was up to something unseemly, might you not come by a dissuasion to the other quite naturally?
    (Masonicinfo hint: whenever anyone refers to the 'Protocols',
    they fall into that category without any further consideration!)

    Oh. Thanks for clearing that up.
    If you read and EVEN MENTION a document from the turn of the last century (claimed by most of the mainstream as a "forgery") which links both Masonry and "the Jews" in a conspiracy for global control, which RINGS TRUE IN MANY RESPECTS, YOU MUST HATE JEWS!

    Nevermind that we have shown here that the two ("global" masonry, and "the jews") seem to be DEEPLY connected, and that the Masons themselves claim to be "behind the throne" of ALL the great republics of the world, if you mention the document that asserts both of these things you are a crazy and HATEFUL anti-semite.

    Anyone else get a bit hot at the idea of a liar calling someone else names?
    Grrr.
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
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