Knowing what you know now would you still support the withdrawal of troops from Iraq

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,183
    BS44325 said:

    Yes, absolutely.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/i-was-part-of-the-iraq-war-surge-it-was-an-utter-disaster/

    I'd like to see Senator Tom "I'm a Warrior, Hear Me Roar" Cotton, respond but my guess is he's a follower and not a leader.

    Pretty big joke of an article. His only argument is that the surge was a disaster because the results could not be sustained post-withdrawal. Duh. Nobody suggested the results would be sustained post-withdrawal and in fact the collapse was predicted. This guy probably supported the Obama drawdown of troops but wants people to believe the collapse of Iraq was inevitable. The Obama foreign policy has taken a beating over the last week and his supporters are trying to avoid responsibility.
    No amount of western intervention is going to hold Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan or any other middle eastern, Arab or Muslim country together. Obama knew this hence his anti Iraq war vote in the senate. I wish you neocons would figure this out. And I'll take the author's word over yours anyway based on his credentials and your bias.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 4,863

    BS44325 said:

    Yes, absolutely.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/i-was-part-of-the-iraq-war-surge-it-was-an-utter-disaster/

    I'd like to see Senator Tom "I'm a Warrior, Hear Me Roar" Cotton, respond but my guess is he's a follower and not a leader.

    Pretty big joke of an article. His only argument is that the surge was a disaster because the results could not be sustained post-withdrawal. Duh. Nobody suggested the results would be sustained post-withdrawal and in fact the collapse was predicted. This guy probably supported the Obama drawdown of troops but wants people to believe the collapse of Iraq was inevitable. The Obama foreign policy has taken a beating over the last week and his supporters are trying to avoid responsibility.
    No amount of western intervention is going to hold Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan or any other middle eastern, Arab or Muslim country together. Obama knew this hence his anti Iraq war vote in the senate. I wish you neocons would figure this out. And I'll take the author's word over yours anyway based on his credentials and your bias.
    Of course you accept his credentials and not Tom Cotton's. Clearly no bias from you. The surge was successful yet you and others are trying to wash your hands of the post-withdrawal disaster. And again you conflate the decision to invade vs the decision to withdraw. Obama's early anti-war vote won't save him from his dwindling place in history as even democrats are opening up on his failures to act.

    Obama lied and people died...in Iraq and Syria

    http://observer.com/2017/04/obama-bashar-al-assad-syria-chemical-weapons/
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,183
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Yes, absolutely.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/i-was-part-of-the-iraq-war-surge-it-was-an-utter-disaster/

    I'd like to see Senator Tom "I'm a Warrior, Hear Me Roar" Cotton, respond but my guess is he's a follower and not a leader.

    Pretty big joke of an article. His only argument is that the surge was a disaster because the results could not be sustained post-withdrawal. Duh. Nobody suggested the results would be sustained post-withdrawal and in fact the collapse was predicted. This guy probably supported the Obama drawdown of troops but wants people to believe the collapse of Iraq was inevitable. The Obama foreign policy has taken a beating over the last week and his supporters are trying to avoid responsibility.
    No amount of western intervention is going to hold Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan or any other middle eastern, Arab or Muslim country together. Obama knew this hence his anti Iraq war vote in the senate. I wish you neocons would figure this out. And I'll take the author's word over yours anyway based on his credentials and your bias.
    Of course you accept his credentials and not Tom Cotton's. Clearly no bias from you. The surge was successful yet you and others are trying to wash your hands of the post-withdrawal disaster. And again you conflate the decision to invade vs the decision to withdraw. Obama's early anti-war vote won't save him from his dwindling place in history as even democrats are opening up on his failures to act.

    Obama lied and people died...in Iraq and Syria

    http://observer.com/2017/04/obama-bashar-al-assad-syria-chemical-weapons/
    Tom "I'm a Warrior, Hear me Roar" Cotton is a follower and not a leader. Regardless, America doesn't have the appetite for a 70,000 troop, 70+ year occupation of Iraq and even then you wouldn't see Iraq safe enough for you to vacation there. Why is that so difficult for you neocons to understand? Your mentality seems to be that if the US drops the biggest bombs and goes in heavy, things will be great. And I don't see Trump rushing to send more troops to Iraq. Keep believing the dream.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 2,695
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Yes, absolutely.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/i-was-part-of-the-iraq-war-surge-it-was-an-utter-disaster/

    I'd like to see Senator Tom "I'm a Warrior, Hear Me Roar" Cotton, respond but my guess is he's a follower and not a leader.

    Pretty big joke of an article. His only argument is that the surge was a disaster because the results could not be sustained post-withdrawal. Duh. Nobody suggested the results would be sustained post-withdrawal and in fact the collapse was predicted. This guy probably supported the Obama drawdown of troops but wants people to believe the collapse of Iraq was inevitable. The Obama foreign policy has taken a beating over the last week and his supporters are trying to avoid responsibility.
    No amount of western intervention is going to hold Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan or any other middle eastern, Arab or Muslim country together. Obama knew this hence his anti Iraq war vote in the senate. I wish you neocons would figure this out. And I'll take the author's word over yours anyway based on his credentials and your bias.
    Of course you accept his credentials and not Tom Cotton's. Clearly no bias from you. The surge was successful yet you and others are trying to wash your hands of the post-withdrawal disaster. And again you conflate the decision to invade vs the decision to withdraw. Obama's early anti-war vote won't save him from his dwindling place in history as even democrats are opening up on his failures to act.

    Obama lied and people died...in Iraq and Syria

    http://observer.com/2017/04/obama-bashar-al-assad-syria-chemical-weapons/
    ftfa
    "Obama lied. American combat boots and Iraqi ground collide.
    Say it again. Obama lied. People died. Include murders committed by the Islamic State in Iraq among Obama’s dead. Obama left a power vacuum in Iraq. Yazidi women were raped. No, it doesn’t rhyme, but it’s more accurate than Bush lied.
    Say it again. Obama lied. The battle for Mosul continues so people continue to die.
    As for eiminating Syrian WMD, Obama lied and Syrians definitely continue to die."

    Is this the new "Thanks Obama"?

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,183
    Bush lied. Trump said so. In Poland, can't believe US intelligence, no WMDs in Iraq, look at that mess. Big mess.
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