Knowing what you know now would you still support the withdrawal of troops from Iraq

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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    BS44325 said:

    Might have to change the thread title as I was under the impression the war in Iraq was over

    http://rudaw.net/mobile/english/kurdistan/200320161

    It's never over. Not winnable.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    callen said:

    Jason P said:

    I'm also not the one who allowed Islamic jihadist groups to flourish under my watch.

    Huh? Obama's responsible? How? What would you of done differently.? If it's using American humans then take your ass over there and you pay for it. Very simple. Not that more Christians in Muslim land would be anything better than what's happened in recent past. Not our problem and we are subsidizing g western oil companies with our blood and money. It's idiotic.

    And take BS with you. He's also more than willing to send another countries humans to die and spending others money.
    Yeah! Take me with you Jason P!
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    PLEASE JASON.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    We have more then enough volunteers already to go over and fight. And they wouldn't be required if right now if order was maintained instead of being abandoned just so an 2008 election promise could be kept before the 2012 election.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Jason P said:

    We have more then enough volunteers already to go over and fight. And they wouldn't be required if right now if order was maintained instead of being abandoned just so an 2008 election promise could be kept before the 2012 election.

    No your not killing US soldiers just because they volunteered. They volunteered to protect this country NOT Exxon mobile. And even if you dont give a shit about the loss of US soldiers lives, the costs will be HUUUGE. And all because humans are scared and listen to war profiteers. Again you and BS sacrifice your lives and your money in the Middle East. You protect oil interests. If it's so darn important.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Not killing us soldiers is the right thing, regardless if it was an election promise. Seems like a good promise.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    Jason P said:

    I'm also not the one who allowed Islamic jihadist groups to flourish under my watch.

    Huh? Obama's responsible? How? What would you of done differently.? If it's using American humans then take your ass over there and you pay for it. Very simple. Not that more Christians in Muslim land would be anything better than what's happened in recent past. Not our problem and we are subsidizing g western oil companies with our blood and money. It's idiotic.

    And take BS with you. He's also more than willing to send another countries humans to die and spending others money.
    Yeah! Take me with you Jason P!
    You're not Hindu, are you? Because that would be a problem.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Jason P said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    Jason P said:

    I'm also not the one who allowed Islamic jihadist groups to flourish under my watch.

    Huh? Obama's responsible? How? What would you of done differently.? If it's using American humans then take your ass over there and you pay for it. Very simple. Not that more Christians in Muslim land would be anything better than what's happened in recent past. Not our problem and we are subsidizing g western oil companies with our blood and money. It's idiotic.

    And take BS with you. He's also more than willing to send another countries humans to die and spending others money.
    Yeah! Take me with you Jason P!
    You're not Hindu, are you? Because that would be a problem.
    Not Hindu...does that mean I get to join you in protecting Exxon Mobile? Apparently that's what this is all about.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    BS44325 said:

    Jason P said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    Jason P said:

    I'm also not the one who allowed Islamic jihadist groups to flourish under my watch.

    Huh? Obama's responsible? How? What would you of done differently.? If it's using American humans then take your ass over there and you pay for it. Very simple. Not that more Christians in Muslim land would be anything better than what's happened in recent past. Not our problem and we are subsidizing g western oil companies with our blood and money. It's idiotic.

    And take BS with you. He's also more than willing to send another countries humans to die and spending others money.
    Yeah! Take me with you Jason P!
    You're not Hindu, are you? Because that would be a problem.
    Not Hindu...does that mean I get to join you in protecting Exxon Mobile? Apparently that's what this is all about.
    Oh but it is. You not seeing this speaks volumes. Why aren't we in Somalia???? One answer.


    What are we doing there then? Spreading democracy? Fixing sectarian violence? Spreading the good word? Oh oh oh terrorists. That one? Like the 9-11 attackers? Oh wait.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    Jason P said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    Jason P said:

    I'm also not the one who allowed Islamic jihadist groups to flourish under my watch.

    Huh? Obama's responsible? How? What would you of done differently.? If it's using American humans then take your ass over there and you pay for it. Very simple. Not that more Christians in Muslim land would be anything better than what's happened in recent past. Not our problem and we are subsidizing g western oil companies with our blood and money. It's idiotic.

    And take BS with you. He's also more than willing to send another countries humans to die and spending others money.
    Yeah! Take me with you Jason P!
    You're not Hindu, are you? Because that would be a problem.
    Not Hindu...does that mean I get to join you in protecting Exxon Mobile? Apparently that's what this is all about.
    Oh but it is. You not seeing this speaks volumes. Why aren't we in Somalia???? One answer.


    What are we doing there then? Spreading democracy? Fixing sectarian violence? Spreading the good word? Oh oh oh terrorists. That one? Like the 9-11 attackers? Oh wait.
    At the moment we're not doing anything there other then overseeing genocide.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    BS44325 said:

    Jason P said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    Jason P said:

    I'm also not the one who allowed Islamic jihadist groups to flourish under my watch.

    Huh? Obama's responsible? How? What would you of done differently.? If it's using American humans then take your ass over there and you pay for it. Very simple. Not that more Christians in Muslim land would be anything better than what's happened in recent past. Not our problem and we are subsidizing g western oil companies with our blood and money. It's idiotic.

    And take BS with you. He's also more than willing to send another countries humans to die and spending others money.
    Yeah! Take me with you Jason P!
    You're not Hindu, are you? Because that would be a problem.
    Not Hindu...does that mean I get to join you in protecting Exxon Mobile? Apparently that's what this is all about.
    I was hoping to first contain the crazy kill cult and then focus on protecting Exxon Mobile. Although I'm not sure how it can be accomplished at this point after sitting idle for four years. You ever tried to give a cat a bath?
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Who's We? Really? Your sending another countries soldiers and money. Sorry you don't get a vote. Now get your govt to pony up.

    On genocide, again "SOMALIA"

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    President Clinton suspended US operations in Somalia on March 3rd, 1994.

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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Jason P said:

    President Clinton suspended US operations in Somalia on March 3rd, 1994.

    Millions of peaches, peaches for free.

    And? Have you been posting to go save the Somalians? Send in our troops? I may have missed it I acknowledge.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    callen said:

    Jason P said:

    President Clinton suspended US operations in Somalia on March 3rd, 1994.

    Millions of peaches, peaches for free.

    And? Have you been posting to go save the Somalians? Send in our troops? I may have missed it I acknowledge.
    Containment and reduction of ISIS is 1st priority in Iraq. That's the country we destabilized, kind of semi-stabilized, and then left it to destabilize.

    Somalia has been in a civil war for 25 years and the US is monitoring and doing airstrikes on Al-Shabab. That particular group of insane people have lost control of major cities and are contained at this point.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Okay you have a point on the US fkn up the place even more. But it was fkd up before we got there and the Sunni Shia thing predates it all. So don't think anything we do will make matters better. Think only worse. At this point humans in the area need to address their problems. Now if ISIS comes a knockin we go full boat on them. Good with that. And we financially go after those that but ISIS oil. And fk with the rich Arab states to clean up their backyards.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    edited April 2016
    I think the fact that Iraq's Vice President was issued an arrest warrant exactly one day after the last US troops left and then was later sentenced to death should have raised an eyebrow or two. I'm not a political science major, but I think they call that in the business a "bad sign".
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    So...

    The war in Iraq still rages on. American troops are aiding the government in trying to re-take Mosul...a town that was previously pacified! And now to top it all off Iraqi scientists are helping ISIS create weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/22/isil-carrying-out-chemical-experiments-on-its-prisoners-as-it-mo/

    So there were no weapons before because Bush lied but following the Obama withdrawal there are weapons everywhere apparently. The decision to withdraw just gets better everyday.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    BS44325 said:

    So...

    The war in Iraq still rages on. American troops are aiding the government in trying to re-take Mosul...a town that was previously pacified! And now to top it all off Iraqi scientists are helping ISIS create weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/22/isil-carrying-out-chemical-experiments-on-its-prisoners-as-it-mo/

    So there were no weapons before because Bush lied but following the Obama withdrawal there are weapons everywhere apparently. The decision to withdraw just gets better everyday.

    go fix it then.

    clearly it is not our problem anymore.

    maybe someone with amazing foresight could magically stabilize the region.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    gimmesometruth27 said:

    BS44325 said:

    So...

    The war in Iraq still rages on. American troops are aiding the government in trying to re-take Mosul...a town that was previously pacified! And now to top it all off Iraqi scientists are helping ISIS create weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/22/isil-carrying-out-chemical-experiments-on-its-prisoners-as-it-mo/

    So there were no weapons before because Bush lied but following the Obama withdrawal there are weapons everywhere apparently. The decision to withdraw just gets better everyday.

    go fix it then.

    clearly it is not our problem anymore.

    maybe someone with amazing foresight could magically stabilize the region.
    Some people with amazing foresight did stabilize the region. It was W, Patreus, Crocker and the surge.

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