Guns.

Lerxst1992 · September 12

njhaley1 said:

mace1229 said:

njhaley1 said:

Indifference said:

Tim Simmons said:

Huh? It’s like at 20 seconds in.

That exact quote? I hear specific names not a generalization.

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal. <- we are here
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

He's not the one moving the goal post.
The quote was not accurate. Changing a few words completely changed the meaning of the quote. Pretending it doesn't is moving the goal posts.
You can have an opinion about Joy Reid. A lot of people don't like her. And that option could be she is under qualified for her job and not good at it. And that doesn't mean that same thought applies to all black women.

He didn't just saying Joy Reid, though, did he? He generalized to several high profile women of color.

As a teacher, surely you understand literal vs. intent.

It was very disturbing when she replaced Chris Matthews. She is enormously less qualified than him, and the lefts thirst for white male “blood” abruptly ending a decades long show with zero notice was disgusting. Matthews is from a different era, and if we’re talking intent, he wasn’t with evil intent in his crimes, yet he deserved zero understanding at the ending of his long tenure, according to his employer.

But that’s how the left operates now. She was bad at that job from day 1, but it didn’t stop that network from continuing its hiring quotas since

saying that, doctoring false quotes is dumb, lies will get discovered. Plus Mr Kirk had plenty of established comments of hate that are bad enough that tell us he got famous playing with dynamite.

Gern Blansten · September 12

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/11/us/politics/fbi-patel-kirk-shooting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.lU8.EgGC.xrFDg69LNffw&smid=url-share

Patel is such a fucking joke.

HughFreakingDillon · September 12

The NY Yankees held a moment of silence for a white supremacist misogynistic piece of garbage.

AmeriKKKa’s most famous baseball team. Well done.

DE4173 · September 12

mace1229 said:

I've seen many similar quotes doing the same thing. Not here, but all over social media. People claiming he said black people don't have the capacity to fly planes. But when you look it up, he was criticizing an airline's (I think United) policy to make 50% of new hires minorities, when 50% of the applicants are not minorities. And by doing so, you will inevitably bypass more qualified staff and pilots because they are white. And I 100% agree with that. If you make such a huge percentage that doesn't even come close to matching the applicant pool, you are going to be hiring lesser qualified people. That in no way does not mean that there are not many qualified minorities out there.
Here, he was quoted by saying all black women when he was just criticizing a few.

Then there's this, but you explained the context.

Tim Simmons · September 12

So anyway, guns are stupid.

Indifference · September 12

HughFreakingDillon said:

The NY Yankees held a moment of silence for a white supremacist misogynistic piece of garbage.

AmeriKKKa’s most famous baseball team. Well done.

Don't forget the NFL and the packers last night and perhaps more NFL teams this weekend.

Ledbetterman10 · September 12

HughFreakingDillon said:

The NY Yankees held a moment of silence for a white supremacist misogynistic piece of garbage.

AmeriKKKa’s most famous baseball team. Well done.

And the entire crowd cheered when Trump was shown on the screen during the nation anthem last night. And they chanted his name during the game…

https://x.com/ritapanahi/status/1966323394766614810?s=46

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/5021252/uploads/editor/14/4zo37uitg18t.jpeg

Scary stuff!

pdalowsky · September 12

mace1229 said:

I've seen many similar quotes doing the same thing. Not here, but all over social media. People claiming he said black people don't have the capacity to fly planes. But when you look it up, he was criticizing an airline's (I think United) policy to make 50% of new hires minorities, when 50% of the applicants are not minorities. And by doing so, you will inevitably bypass more qualified staff and pilots because they are white. And I 100% agree with that. If you make such a huge percentage that doesn't even come close to matching the applicant pool, you are going to be hiring lesser qualified people. That in no way does not mean that there are not many qualified minorities out there.
Here, he was quoted by saying all black women when he was just criticizing a few.

I was (perhaps not quite as well as you did) trying to make a similar post earlier in relation to the snapshot taken of his comments about guns.

Its quite clear there are a lot of people who loved Charlie, and its fairly clear there are many who despise him. Literally hate him.

Division, lovely division. Such is the strength of feeling - those who love him will not consider the viewpoint of those who hate him, and those who hate him are not prepared to consider arguments made in his defence. Despite what anyone thinks, no one is actually right......

DE4173 · September 12

pdalowsky said:

mace1229 said:

I've seen many similar quotes doing the same thing. Not here, but all over social media. People claiming he said black people don't have the capacity to fly planes. But when you look it up, he was criticizing an airline's (I think United) policy to make 50% of new hires minorities, when 50% of the applicants are not minorities. And by doing so, you will inevitably bypass more qualified staff and pilots because they are white. And I 100% agree with that. If you make such a huge percentage that doesn't even come close to matching the applicant pool, you are going to be hiring lesser qualified people. That in no way does not mean that there are not many qualified minorities out there.
Here, he was quoted by saying all black women when he was just criticizing a few.

I was (perhaps not quite as well as you did) trying to make a similar post earlier in relation to the snapshot taken of his comments about guns.

Its quite clear there are a lot of people who loved Charlie, and its fairly clear there are many who despise him. Literally hate him.

Division, lovely division. Such is the strength of feeling - those who love him will not consider the viewpoint of those who hate him, and those who hate him are not prepared to consider arguments made in his defence. Despite what anyone thinks, no one is actually right......

People are being fired from their jobs due to posting their hate.

🤷‍♂️

HughFreakingDillon · September 12

pdalowsky said:

mace1229 said:

I've seen many similar quotes doing the same thing. Not here, but all over social media. People claiming he said black people don't have the capacity to fly planes. But when you look it up, he was criticizing an airline's (I think United) policy to make 50% of new hires minorities, when 50% of the applicants are not minorities. And by doing so, you will inevitably bypass more qualified staff and pilots because they are white. And I 100% agree with that. If you make such a huge percentage that doesn't even come close to matching the applicant pool, you are going to be hiring lesser qualified people. That in no way does not mean that there are not many qualified minorities out there.
Here, he was quoted by saying all black women when he was just criticizing a few.

I was (perhaps not quite as well as you did) trying to make a similar post earlier in relation to the snapshot taken of his comments about guns.

Its quite clear there are a lot of people who loved Charlie, and its fairly clear there are many who despise him. Literally hate him.

Division, lovely division. Such is the strength of feeling - those who love him will not consider the viewpoint of those who hate him, and those who hate him are not prepared to consider arguments made in his defence. Despite what anyone thinks, no one is actually right......

We have all seen literal video, in context, of this racist POS. That’s not “disagreement”.

HughFreakingDillon · September 12

Now there’s a website called charliesmurderers where they take submissions and post screenshots of people “celebrating his murder” so they can get fired or worse.

To show you incredibly stupid these people are, the first on the list is a well known canadian political reporter. The tweet they screenshot literally says “violence is never the answer” and “I hope Charlie survives”. This shit is going to put lives at risk.

Halifax2TheMax · September 12

I love the folks coming out and showing us who you are with defending the POS.

Charlie Kirk in his own words: ‘prowling Blacks’ and ‘the great replacement strategy’

The far-right commentator didn’t pull his punches when discussing his bigoted views on current events

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs

Halifax2TheMax · September 12

DE4173 said:

pdalowsky said:

mace1229 said:

I've seen many similar quotes doing the same thing. Not here, but all over social media. People claiming he said black people don't have the capacity to fly planes. But when you look it up, he was criticizing an airline's (I think United) policy to make 50% of new hires minorities, when 50% of the applicants are not minorities. And by doing so, you will inevitably bypass more qualified staff and pilots because they are white. And I 100% agree with that. If you make such a huge percentage that doesn't even come close to matching the applicant pool, you are going to be hiring lesser qualified people. That in no way does not mean that there are not many qualified minorities out there.
Here, he was quoted by saying all black women when he was just criticizing a few.

I was (perhaps not quite as well as you did) trying to make a similar post earlier in relation to the snapshot taken of his comments about guns.

Its quite clear there are a lot of people who loved Charlie, and its fairly clear there are many who despise him. Literally hate him.

Division, lovely division. Such is the strength of feeling - those who love him will not consider the viewpoint of those who hate him, and those who hate him are not prepared to consider arguments made in his defence. Despite what anyone thinks, no one is actually right......

People are being fired from their jobs due to posting their hate.

🤷‍♂️

Sorry, Charlie.

njhaley1 · September 12

mace1229 said:

njhaley1 said:

mace1229 said:

njhaley1 said:

Indifference said:

Tim Simmons said:

Huh? It’s like at 20 seconds in.

That exact quote? I hear specific names not a generalization.

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal. <- we are here
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

He's not the one moving the goal post.
The quote was not accurate. Changing a few words completely changed the meaning of the quote. Pretending it doesn't is moving the goal posts.
You can have an opinion about Joy Reid. A lot of people don't like her. And that option could be she is under qualified for her job and not good at it. And that doesn't mean that same thought applies to all black women.

He didn't just saying Joy Reid, though, did he? He generalized to several high profile women of color.

As a teacher, surely you understand literal vs. intent.

I can't listen to the quote, X is blocked on my work computer. But when I googled it and read the quote, I saw 3 women that he gave examples of. I don't like Joy Reid, and her trademark is to fan the flames even when there aren't any. She's like the Tucker of the left. But I already said I don't agree with applying that same thing to Michelle Obama. That being said, giving 3 examples does not mean all black women.
He was quoted as saying 'Black women do not have brain processing power" when he never said that. Now pointing out what he actually said, and that he was referring to a few select women is considered moving the goal posts is kind of mind boggling. You moved the goals. He never said what was quoted. Period. End of story. He never said that.
You may not like what he actually did say, and you're trying to equate that to what you thought he said. But that is, in fact, the definition of moving the goal posts.

I appreciate your and @Indifference opinion. I would suggest you (Mace) watch it when you get a chance - there is a smugness and intonation that just cannot be captured in writing.
As someone who works in a professional field full of women, many of minority status more specifically, I watched that wondering what each of them would think when hearing that back-and-forth. All of his examples were women, all high profile women of color. Joy Reid may be unqualified, I admit I do not know who she is because I don't follow MSNBC. But the quote generalized to several others. Some of these colleagues may see it the same as you do, but many of them, I am certain, do not. All they've heard is that they, too, did not earn their way to where they are, just like Michelle Obama, Ketanji Brown Jackson, and Sheila Jackson Lee as CK said.
What he said, and they way he said it, was incredibly hurtful.

DE4173 · September 12

The video stands on it's own.

Quotes are used to indicate what exact words were said.

nicknyr15 · September 12

How can a 22 year old be filled with so much hate? That was such a great time in my life and I can’t imagine being that driven by hatred thanks to politics at 22. I’d have to think the algorithm is mostly to blame for so many kids hatred, anxiety, stress and mental health issues.

I feel so bad for a lot of today’s youth. It is not easy growing up with social media

gimmesometruth27 · September 12

so.....

was the shooter a radical leftist democrat?

if not, i demand a fucking apology from trump and his administration for spreading that.

gimmesometruth27 · September 12

22 year old white kid
father was in military
priest on speed dial
went as trump for halloween a few years ago

doesn't sound like your typical leftist

gimmesometruth27 · September 12

and is it true that the "trans messaging" on the bullet casing was "TRN", the manufacturer name, that they stamp on all of the bullets?

whomever leaked the "trans messaging" to the press should be fired and apologize to the nation for lying or being ignorant.

Spiritual_Chaos · September 12

nicknyr15 said:

How can a 22 year old be filled with so much hate? That was such a great time in my life and I can’t imagine being that driven by hatred thanks to politics at 22.

Ask Charlie Kirk

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