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I'm under the impression Hoculi put new laws into effect since the SC decision a few years ago making the CC permits harder to get & limiting where people can bring their guns, and that NYS still has some of the toughest gun laws (& one of the lowest rates of death by firearm) in the nation.tempo_n_groove said:
Opposite. I am saying the culture can change. We have more conceal carry permits now than ever in NY and it never turned into the wild west.Merkin Baller said:
IDK what conversation you're trying to have here. Are you pushing back on the assertion that gun laws work?tempo_n_groove said:
HOLY shit indeed! NYS also had a tremendous increase in Concealed weapons permits and the state still manages to be safe. So, do people change or are the looser gun laws just an anomaly?Merkin Baller said:
Holy shit, dude.tempo_n_groove said:
Or people actually change? Dude was from out of state so it makes sense now.Merkin Baller said:
It's *almost* as if gun laws work.tempo_n_groove said:
I find it hard to believe that we have mass shootings everywhere and haven't had one in NYC in 25 years?nicknyr15 said:
No mass shootings in 25 years (your claim).... NY State has the 4th lowest rate of gun violence. Facts are facts.
Gun laws work.
https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/
"We compared gun policy across the country, scoring every state on the strength of its gun laws and comparing it with its rate of gun violence. In states where elected officials have taken action to pass gun safety laws, fewer people die by gun violence. Choose a state to see how it stacks up on 50 key policies, or explore a policy to see how much of the country has adopted it."
It is not what the anti gun people were touting. They expected to have shootouts on every street corner if CC was easier to get.
Am I mistaken?
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tempo_n_groove said:
Opposite. I am saying the culture can change. We have more conceal carry permits now than ever in NY and it never turned into the wild west.Merkin Baller said:
IDK what conversation you're trying to have here. Are you pushing back on the assertion that gun laws work?tempo_n_groove said:
HOLY shit indeed! NYS also had a tremendous increase in Concealed weapons permits and the state still manages to be safe. So, do people change or are the looser gun laws just an anomaly?Merkin Baller said:
Holy shit, dude.tempo_n_groove said:
Or people actually change? Dude was from out of state so it makes sense now.Merkin Baller said:
It's *almost* as if gun laws work.tempo_n_groove said:
I find it hard to believe that we have mass shootings everywhere and haven't had one in NYC in 25 years?nicknyr15 said:
No mass shootings in 25 years (your claim).... NY State has the 4th lowest rate of gun violence. Facts are facts.
Gun laws work.
https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/
"We compared gun policy across the country, scoring every state on the strength of its gun laws and comparing it with its rate of gun violence. In states where elected officials have taken action to pass gun safety laws, fewer people die by gun violence. Choose a state to see how it stacks up on 50 key policies, or explore a policy to see how much of the country has adopted it."
It is not what the anti gun people were touting. They expected to have shootouts on every street corner if CC was easier to get.
be interested to see the breakdown by county of the permits..._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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But then the gubmint would know where all the guns are and then they’d come and seize them all.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
Opposite. I am saying the culture can change. We have more conceal carry permits now than ever in NY and it never turned into the wild west.Merkin Baller said:
IDK what conversation you're trying to have here. Are you pushing back on the assertion that gun laws work?tempo_n_groove said:
HOLY shit indeed! NYS also had a tremendous increase in Concealed weapons permits and the state still manages to be safe. So, do people change or are the looser gun laws just an anomaly?Merkin Baller said:
Holy shit, dude.tempo_n_groove said:
Or people actually change? Dude was from out of state so it makes sense now.Merkin Baller said:
It's *almost* as if gun laws work.tempo_n_groove said:
I find it hard to believe that we have mass shootings everywhere and haven't had one in NYC in 25 years?nicknyr15 said:
No mass shootings in 25 years (your claim).... NY State has the 4th lowest rate of gun violence. Facts are facts.
Gun laws work.
https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/
"We compared gun policy across the country, scoring every state on the strength of its gun laws and comparing it with its rate of gun violence. In states where elected officials have taken action to pass gun safety laws, fewer people die by gun violence. Choose a state to see how it stacks up on 50 key policies, or explore a policy to see how much of the country has adopted it."
It is not what the anti gun people were touting. They expected to have shootouts on every street corner if CC was easier to get.
be interested to see the breakdown by county of the permits...09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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In NY they actually do know where ALL the legal guns are.Halifax2TheMax said:
But then the gubmint would know where all the guns are and then they’d come and seize them all.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
Opposite. I am saying the culture can change. We have more conceal carry permits now than ever in NY and it never turned into the wild west.Merkin Baller said:
IDK what conversation you're trying to have here. Are you pushing back on the assertion that gun laws work?tempo_n_groove said:
HOLY shit indeed! NYS also had a tremendous increase in Concealed weapons permits and the state still manages to be safe. So, do people change or are the looser gun laws just an anomaly?Merkin Baller said:
Holy shit, dude.tempo_n_groove said:
Or people actually change? Dude was from out of state so it makes sense now.Merkin Baller said:
It's *almost* as if gun laws work.tempo_n_groove said:
I find it hard to believe that we have mass shootings everywhere and haven't had one in NYC in 25 years?nicknyr15 said:
No mass shootings in 25 years (your claim).... NY State has the 4th lowest rate of gun violence. Facts are facts.
Gun laws work.
https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/
"We compared gun policy across the country, scoring every state on the strength of its gun laws and comparing it with its rate of gun violence. In states where elected officials have taken action to pass gun safety laws, fewer people die by gun violence. Choose a state to see how it stacks up on 50 key policies, or explore a policy to see how much of the country has adopted it."
It is not what the anti gun people were touting. They expected to have shootouts on every street corner if CC was easier to get.
be interested to see the breakdown by county of the permits...0 -
And they’ll be taken away any minute, eh?tempo_n_groove said:
In NY they actually do know where ALL the legal guns are.Halifax2TheMax said:
But then the gubmint would know where all the guns are and then they’d come and seize them all.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
Opposite. I am saying the culture can change. We have more conceal carry permits now than ever in NY and it never turned into the wild west.Merkin Baller said:
IDK what conversation you're trying to have here. Are you pushing back on the assertion that gun laws work?tempo_n_groove said:
HOLY shit indeed! NYS also had a tremendous increase in Concealed weapons permits and the state still manages to be safe. So, do people change or are the looser gun laws just an anomaly?Merkin Baller said:
Holy shit, dude.tempo_n_groove said:
Or people actually change? Dude was from out of state so it makes sense now.Merkin Baller said:
It's *almost* as if gun laws work.tempo_n_groove said:
I find it hard to believe that we have mass shootings everywhere and haven't had one in NYC in 25 years?nicknyr15 said:
No mass shootings in 25 years (your claim).... NY State has the 4th lowest rate of gun violence. Facts are facts.
Gun laws work.
https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/
"We compared gun policy across the country, scoring every state on the strength of its gun laws and comparing it with its rate of gun violence. In states where elected officials have taken action to pass gun safety laws, fewer people die by gun violence. Choose a state to see how it stacks up on 50 key policies, or explore a policy to see how much of the country has adopted it."
It is not what the anti gun people were touting. They expected to have shootouts on every street corner if CC was easier to get.
be interested to see the breakdown by county of the permits...09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Tried looking that up, couldn't find it.mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
Opposite. I am saying the culture can change. We have more conceal carry permits now than ever in NY and it never turned into the wild west.Merkin Baller said:
IDK what conversation you're trying to have here. Are you pushing back on the assertion that gun laws work?tempo_n_groove said:
HOLY shit indeed! NYS also had a tremendous increase in Concealed weapons permits and the state still manages to be safe. So, do people change or are the looser gun laws just an anomaly?Merkin Baller said:
Holy shit, dude.tempo_n_groove said:
Or people actually change? Dude was from out of state so it makes sense now.Merkin Baller said:
It's *almost* as if gun laws work.tempo_n_groove said:
I find it hard to believe that we have mass shootings everywhere and haven't had one in NYC in 25 years?nicknyr15 said:
No mass shootings in 25 years (your claim).... NY State has the 4th lowest rate of gun violence. Facts are facts.
Gun laws work.
https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/
"We compared gun policy across the country, scoring every state on the strength of its gun laws and comparing it with its rate of gun violence. In states where elected officials have taken action to pass gun safety laws, fewer people die by gun violence. Choose a state to see how it stacks up on 50 key policies, or explore a policy to see how much of the country has adopted it."
It is not what the anti gun people were touting. They expected to have shootouts on every street corner if CC was easier to get.
be interested to see the breakdown by county of the permits...0 -
Who cares at this point having so many god damn guns might come in handy when the civil war starts, it can’t be that only conservatives have them nojesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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