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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 9,239
    Wait, we think progressives will vote for Adams or Cuomo? 
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,961
    static111 said:
    Split the progressive vote three ways and hand the governorship to,an unqualified conservative, seems like the current Dem playbook.  Who really still believes this isn’t a scripted soap opera at this point?
    C’mon, “Dem playbook?” Did the DNC, governor Hochel or the NY Dem establishment endorse this and come out for it? This is part of the problem. You’d be better off to follow the money and the egos. Time and effort should be spent on pressuring the governor and dem party apparatus to support the dem primary winner and kick all others to the curb. That said, you have to know billionaire white supremacist dirty money is fucking with things. It is not the “Dem playbook.”
    Cuomo and Adams are basically dems.  Why would they split the vote? Especially with a clear primary winner.  This is how progressives lose elections.  I agree that dem leadership should tell those clowns they didn't win the nomination and pressure them from pursuing an independent run. But will they?

    Damn I was drinking last night not sure how I confused governor race with mayoral race, but there it is. Can't hold my liquor like I used ta could.



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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,494
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Split the progressive vote three ways and hand the governorship to,an unqualified conservative, seems like the current Dem playbook.  Who really still believes this isn’t a scripted soap opera at this point?
    C’mon, “Dem playbook?” Did the DNC, governor Hochel or the NY Dem establishment endorse this and come out for it? This is part of the problem. You’d be better off to follow the money and the egos. Time and effort should be spent on pressuring the governor and dem party apparatus to support the dem primary winner and kick all others to the curb. That said, you have to know billionaire white supremacist dirty money is fucking with things. It is not the “Dem playbook.”
    Cuomo and Adams are basically dems.  Why would they split the vote? Especially with a clear primary winner.  This is how progressives lose elections.  I agree that dem leadership should tell those clowns they didn't win the nomination and pressure them from pursuing an independent run. But will they?

    Damn I was drinking last night not sure how I confused governor race with mayoral race, but there it is. Can't hold my liquor like I used ta could.



    Adams’s and Coumo’s egos are bigger than the dem party. Dem and Indy voters should recognize that and tell them to get bent. The ny state dem party machine should tell them both to go fuck themselves. Question is, will they?? And who will Governor Hochel endorse? Does she want to be on the side of the repubs who are already attacking the rightful winner of the primary or will she side for the future of the dem party?

    Theres a monumental generational shift occurring but as long as I post, dems don’t stand a chance.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,775
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Split the progressive vote three ways and hand the governorship to,an unqualified conservative, seems like the current Dem playbook.  Who really still believes this isn’t a scripted soap opera at this point?
    C’mon, “Dem playbook?” Did the DNC, governor Hochel or the NY Dem establishment endorse this and come out for it? This is part of the problem. You’d be better off to follow the money and the egos. Time and effort should be spent on pressuring the governor and dem party apparatus to support the dem primary winner and kick all others to the curb. That said, you have to know billionaire white supremacist dirty money is fucking with things. It is not the “Dem playbook.”
    Cuomo and Adams are basically dems.  Why would they split the vote? Especially with a clear primary winner.  This is how progressives lose elections.  I agree that dem leadership should tell those clowns they didn't win the nomination and pressure them from pursuing an independent run. But will they?

    Damn I was drinking last night not sure how I confused governor race with mayoral race, but there it is. Can't hold my liquor like I used ta could.



    NYC is chock full of civil rights liberals but are naturally capitalistic. They are democrats, not progressives per se. I think that’s the vote that could get split
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,733
    the republican is gonna win. because of fucking cuomo's ego and the dem machine that wants to keep his career alive.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 9,132
    the republican is gonna win. because of fucking cuomo's ego and the dem machine that wants to keep his career alive.
    Republican won’t win here. Ever. I thinks it’s 50/50 between Adams and Mamdani
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,570
    You're in NYC and I'm not so you'd know better. But from the cheap seats, the vote-splitting concern doesn't seem totally ridiculous. 
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 9,132
    OnWis97 said:
    You're in NYC and I'm not so you'd know better. But from the cheap seats, the vote-splitting concern doesn't seem totally ridiculous. 
    I just don’t see it happening. There’s not even a solid republican candidate for mayor and there hasn’t been in the last few elections. 
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,961
    nicknyr15 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    You're in NYC and I'm not so you'd know better. But from the cheap seats, the vote-splitting concern doesn't seem totally ridiculous. 
    I just don’t see it happening. There’s not even a solid republican candidate for mayor and there hasn’t been in the last few elections. 
    Perfect opening for Ghouliani to make a return.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,531
    it looks like cuomo is going to stay on the ballot for nyc mayor in november. 

    this fuckin guy...

    Total dickweed. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,494
    It’s over. Mamdani has the theater workers union.

    https://www.cityandstateny.com/politics/2025/06/endorsements-2025-new-york-city-mayoral-race/401606/

    The ranked choice voting is going to make this really interesting. And a viable repub candidate will emerge. You know the billionaire class is polling and quietly whispering in ears trying to find the right candidate to appeal against Adams, Cuomo and Mamdani. There will be one.
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 9,132
    PJ_Soul said:
    it looks like cuomo is going to stay on the ballot for nyc mayor in november. 

    this fuckin guy...

    Total dickweed. 
    Big time 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,494
    Purportedly from Robert Reich via Liz Cheney but the author is someone else, apparently. I’m not sure the source but it sounds good. Unfortunately, I think it’s still too late because this authoritarian regime is just going to continue until they again turn on their own whole sale for their lack of purity and fealty to Herr COOTWH and his heirs. Take it for what it’s worth.

    Friends,

    I’m told that the following message, which I received earlier today, purporting to be from Liz Cheney, is a hoax. She didn’t send it. It’s an excellent and important message nonetheless. (Several of you say it originated with Dr. Pru Lee.)

    ***

    From Liz Cheney

    Dear Democratic Party,

    I need more from you.

    You keep sending emails begging for $15,

    while we’re watching fascism consolidate power in real time.

    This administration is not simply “a different ideology.”

    It is a coordinated, authoritarian machine — with the Supreme Court, the House, the Senate, and the executive pen all under its control.

    And you?

    You’re still asking for decorum and donations. WTF.

    That won’t save us.

    I don’t want to hear another polite floor speech.

    I want strategy.

    I want fire.

    I want action so bold it shifts the damn news cycle — not fits inside one.

    Every time I see something from the DNC, it’s asking me for funds.

    Surprise.

    Those of us who donate don’t want to keep sending money just to watch you stand frozen as the Constitution goes up in flames — shaking your heads and saying,

    “Well, there’s not much we can do. He has the majority.”

    I call bullshit.

    If you don’t know how to think outside the box…

    If you don’t know how to strategize…

    If you don’t know how to fight fire with fire…

    what the hell are we giving you money for?

    Some of us have two or three advanced degrees.

    Some of us have military training.

    Some of us know what coordinated resistance looks like — and this ain’t it.

    Yes, the tours around the country? Nice.

    The speeches? Nice.

    The clever congressional clapbacks? Nice.

    That was great for giving hope.

    Now we need action.

    You have to stop acting like this is a normal presidency that will just time out in four years.

    We’re not even at Day 90, and look at the chaos.

    Look at the disappearances.

    Look at the erosion of the judiciary, the press, and our rights.

    If you do not stop this, we will not make it 1,460 days.

    So here’s what I need from you — right now:

    1. Form an independent, civilian-powered investigative coalition.

    I’m talking experts. Veterans. Whistleblowers. Journalists. Watchdog orgs.

    Deputize the resistance. Build a real-time archive of corruption, overreach, and executive abuse.

    Make it public. Make it unshakable.

    Let the people drag the rot into the light.

    If you can’t hold formal hearings, hold public ones.

    If Congress won’t act, let the country act.

    This isn’t about optics — it’s about receipts.

    Because at some point, these people will be held accountable.

    And when that day comes, we’ll need every name, every signature, every illegal order, every act of silence — documented.

    You’re not just preserving truth — you’re preparing evidence for prosecution.

    The more they vanish people and weaponize data, the more we need truth in the sunlight.

    2. Join the International Criminal Court.

    Yes, I said it. Call their bluff.

    You cannot control what the other side does.

    But you can control your own integrity.

    So prove it. Prove that your party is still grounded in law, human rights, and ethical leadership.

    Join.

    If you’ve got nothing to hide — join.

    Show the world who’s hiding bodies, bribes, and buried bank accounts.

    Force the GOP to explain why they’d rather protect a war criminal than sign a treaty.

    And while you’re at it, publicly invite ICC observers into U.S. borders.

    Make this administration explain — on camera — why they’re terrified of international oversight.

    3. Fund state-level resistance infrastructure.

    Don’t just send postcards. Send resources.

    Channel DNC funds into rapid-response teams, legal defense coalitions, sanctuary networks, and digital security training.

    If the federal government is hijacked, build power underneath it.

    If the laws become tools of oppression, help people resist them legally, locally, and boldly.

    This is not campaign season — this is an authoritarian purge.

    Stop campaigning.

    Act like this is the end of democracy, because it is.

    We WILL REMEMBER the warriors come primaries.

    Fighting this regime should be your marketing strategy.

    And let’s be clear:

    The reason the other side always seems three steps ahead is because they ARE.

    They prepared for this.

    They infiltrated school boards, courts, local legislatures, and police unions.

    They built a machine while you wrote press releases.

    We’re reacting — they’ve been executing a plan for years.

    It’s time to shift from panic to blueprint.

    You should already be working with strategists and military minds on PROJECT 2029,

    a coordinated, long-term plan to rebuild this country when the smoke clears.

    You should be publicly laying out:

    • The laws and amendments you’ll pass to ensure this never happens again

    • The systems you’ll tear down and the safeguards you’ll enshrine

    • The plan to hold perpetrators of human atrocities accountable

    • The urgent commitment to immediately bring home those sold into slavery in El Salvador

    You say you’re the party of the people?

    Then show the people the plan.

    4. Use your platform to educate the public on rights and resistance tactics.

    If they’re going to strip us of rights and lie about it — arm the people with truth.

    Text campaigns. Mass trainings. Downloadable “Know Your Rights” kits. Multilingual legal guides. Encrypted phone trees.

    Give people tools, not soundbites.

    We don’t need more slogans.

    We need survival manuals.

    5. Leverage international media and watchdogs.

    Stop hoping U.S. cable news will wake up.

    They’re too busy playing both sides of fascism.

    Feed the real stories to BBC, Al Jazeera, The Guardian, Reuters, Der Spiegel — hell, leak them to anonymous dropboxes if you have to.

    Make what’s happening in America a global scandal.

    And stop relying on platforms that are actively suppressing truth.

    Start leveraging Substack. Use Bluesky.

    That’s where the resistance is migrating. That’s where censorship hasn’t caught up.

    If the mainstream won’t carry the truth — outflank them.

    Get creative. Go underground. Go global.

    If our democracy is being dismantled in broad daylight, make sure the whole world sees it — and make sure we’re still able to say it.

    6. Create a digital safe haven for whistleblowers and defectors.

    Not everyone inside this regime is loyal.

    Some are scared. Some want out.

    Build the channels.

    Encrypted. Anonymous. Protected.

    Make it easy for the cracks in the system to become gaping holes.

    And while you’re at it?

    Stop ostracizing MAGA defectors.

    Everyone makes mistakes — even glaring, critical ones.

    We are not the bullies.

    We are not the ones filled with hate.

    And it is not your job to shame people who finally saw the fire and chose to step out of it.

    They will have to deal with that internal struggle — the guilt of putting a very dangerous and callous regime in power.

    But they’re already outnumbered. Don’t push them back into the crowd.

    We don’t need purity.

    We need numbers.

    We need people willing to burn their red hats and testify against the machine they helped build.

    7. Study the collapse — and the comeback.

    You should be learning from South Korea and how they managed their brief rule under dictatorship.

    They didn’t waste time chasing the one man with absolute immunity.

    They went after the structure.

    The aides. The enforcers. The loyalists. The architects.

    They knocked out the foundation one pillar at a time —

    until the “strongman” had no one left to stand on.

    And his power crumbled beneath him.

    You should be independently investigating every author of Project 2025,

    every aide who defies court orders,

    every communications director repeating lies,

    every policy writer enabling cruelty,

    every water boy who keeps this engine running.

    You can’t stop a regime by asking the king to sit down.

    You dismantle the throne he’s standing on — one coward at a time.

    Stop being scared to fight dirty when the other side is fighting to erase the damn Constitution.

    They are threatening to disappear AMERICANS.

    A M E R I C A N S.

    And your biggest move can’t be another strongly worded email.

    We don’t want your urgently fundraising subject lines.

    We want backbone.

    We want action.

    We want to know you’ll stand up before we’re all ordered to sit down — permanently.

    We are watching.

    And I don’t just mean your base.

    I mean millions of us who see exactly what’s happening.

    I’ve only got 6,000 followers — but the groups I’m in? The networks I touch? Over a quarter million.

    Often when I speak, it echoes.

    But when we ALL

    speak, it ROARS with pressure that will cause change.

    We need to be deafening.

    You still have a chance to do something historic.

    To be remembered for courage, not caution.

    To go down as the party that didn’t just watch the fall — but fought the hell back with everything they had.

    But the clock is ticking.

    And the deportation buses are idling.


    https://robertreich.substack.com/p/a-remarkable-message?utm_campaign=post&triedRedirect=true

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,733
    schumer is making the bold move of making the senate parliamentarian read all 900+ pages of the big shit sandwich bill out loud on the floor before the senate votes on it. that should slow it down for 8 hours or so...

    i last saw a few hours before that they need 4 republican defections to prevent it from passing. they have 4 so far. i can see some idiot dem senator voting for it and getting it to pass though.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,494
    schumer is making the bold move of making the senate parliamentarian read all 900+ pages of the big shit sandwich bill out loud on the floor before the senate votes on it. that should slow it down for 8 hours or so...

    i last saw a few hours before that they need 4 republican defections to prevent it from passing. they have 4 so far. i can see some idiot dem senator voting for it and getting it to pass though.
    NotBetterman will be that vote.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,733
    schumer is making the bold move of making the senate parliamentarian read all 900+ pages of the big shit sandwich bill out loud on the floor before the senate votes on it. that should slow it down for 8 hours or so...

    i last saw a few hours before that they need 4 republican defections to prevent it from passing. they have 4 so far. i can see some idiot dem senator voting for it and getting it to pass though.
    NotBetterman will be that vote.
    that is what i was thinking.

    here comes the heel turn.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,452
    schumer is making the bold move of making the senate parliamentarian read all 900+ pages of the big shit sandwich bill out loud on the floor before the senate votes on it. that should slow it down for 8 hours or so...

    i last saw a few hours before that they need 4 republican defections to prevent it from passing. they have 4 so far. i can see some idiot dem senator voting for it and getting it to pass though.
    NotBetterman will be that vote.

    schumer is making the bold move of making the senate parliamentarian read all 900+ pages of the big shit sandwich bill out loud on the floor before the senate votes on it. that should slow it down for 8 hours or so...

    i last saw a few hours before that they need 4 republican defections to prevent it from passing. they have 4 so far. i can see some idiot dem senator voting for it and getting it to pass though.
    NotBetterman will be that vote.
    that is what i was thinking.

    here comes the heel turn.

    Just thinking about it passing is like...
    Anguish GIFs  Tenor
    GOD...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 9,239
    Again, I know NYC isn’t the country, but if Cems can pick local candidates that be real, connect with empathy, and talk real about issues affecting voters offering a platform to actually help them with kitchen table economic issues. You don’t need to play ball on conservative terms.


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