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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    Love Jeffries....he's just letting the GOP destroy itself for now
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,011
    aoc calling for impeachment. 

    the rest of the dems with their heads in the sand.

    the dems are clearly unable to meet the moment.

    i'll never support one again.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,011
    dems are trying to handle a 5 alarm fire using decorum.

    this is why they will never beat the gop again.

    shrinking violets.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    what does impeachment do when you don't have the senate? zero. it only makes the dems look desperate. I don't agree with AOC's strategy here. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    I don't think she's wrong...in her position she needs to do what she thinks is a proper response. Her response is proper whether it has a chance of getting anywhere or not.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,011
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    what does impeachment do when you don't have the senate? zero. it only makes the dems look desperate. I don't agree with AOC's strategy here. 
    inaction is complicity in this situation.

    inaction is a dereliction of duty.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Gern Blansten said:
    I don't think she's wrong...in her position she needs to do what she thinks is a proper response. Her response is proper whether it has a chance of getting anywhere or not.
    I tend to agree. Yeah, he's not getting removed, but make the Senate say so.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,011
    OnWis97 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I don't think she's wrong...in her position she needs to do what she thinks is a proper response. Her response is proper whether it has a chance of getting anywhere or not.
    I tend to agree. Yeah, he's not getting removed, but make the Senate say so.
    agreed.

    grind the whole thing to a halt and make the senate go on record.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    The articles wouldn’t even reach the floor. There’s a reason Republicans never even tried when they had the House the last two years. Performances don’t move the needle. I think it actually exacerbates the lack of power. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,658
    Think about all of the people in this country who are sworn to uphold and defend the constitution, and then think about what percentage actually do that.  Shake my fucking head.
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,499
    I know NYC isn’t the country, but I think the fundamentals track


  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,011
    cuomo defeated tonight.

    the dem establishment backed him. the same establishment that got us trump and got them no power in dc.

    schumer, pelosi, jeffries, it is time for all of them to step aside and enjoy their retirement. let the younger generation take over.

    also, why the fuck was cuomo even on the ballot again? why do disgraced politicians always find their way back into the fold?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,011

    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,004
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    cuomo defeated tonight.

    the dem establishment backed him. the same establishment that got us trump and got them no power in dc.

    schumer, pelosi, jeffries, it is time for all of them to step aside and enjoy their retirement. let the younger generation take over.

    also, why the fuck was cuomo even on the ballot again? why do disgraced politicians always find their way back into the fold?
    Good riddance. But you know the Dems can’t elevate the likes of that radical leftist communist socialist feminazi AOC and expect to win elections. If they do, they’ll never win another election, ever.

    What we’re witnessing is a generational shift that is going to be ugly. Center-center right corporate Dems versus left of center progressives. There’s talent there and some excellent candidates but I’m not sure the 15% MAGA-lite and 10-18% “independents” are ready yet. Might need another few cycles of die-offs to get there. Regardless, the biggest political scandal in US electoral history, lying about Brandon’s health and cognitive decline, means Dems are out of the running for at least a century, if not longer. But if they become more COOTWHee, fuck the Palestinians, embrace the Israelis and condemn and deport the “other”, plus lower taxes for the 1% and enrich themselves at our expense, they might compete.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,004
    We just need to run a candidate like this one and implement the same policies and hire similar types of people to see it through.

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,011
    the tea party and maga are a direct result of gop old head leadership that were out of touch with their base. the same thing is going to happen to the dems. if the leadership does not change, the voters will make the necessary changes for them.

    this is the epitome of dem leadership's lack of self awareness. step aside for the good of the party, or get destroyed in elections for a decade.

    the dem base is not republican lite. the dem base does not want leadership taking money from aipac, like jeffries. and voters will punish them by staying home or voting for a more liberal candidate, or voting 3rd party.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    the tea party and maga are a direct result of gop old head leadership that were out of touch with their base. the same thing is going to happen to the dems. if the leadership does not change, the voters will make the necessary changes for them.

    this is the epitome of dem leadership's lack of self awareness. step aside for the good of the party, or get destroyed in elections for a decade.

    the dem base is not republican lite. the dem base does not want leadership taking money from aipac, like jeffries. and voters will punish them by staying home or voting for a more liberal candidate, or voting 3rd party.
    I don't know. I'm not reading too much into it.  18% of D's voted in this primary.  The other two candidates were seriously flawed, in many ways.  
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    While it's a small slice of a very left-leaning city, I do hope it's a good sign that the old guard was ignored. It could also be that without the sexual harassment allegations, he wins the nomination easily.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    OnWis97 said:
    While it's a small slice of a very left-leaning city, I do hope it's a good sign that the old guard was ignored. It could also be that without the sexual harassment allegations, he wins the nomination easily.
    Right, exactly.  Plus the nursing home scandal.  And of course Eric Adams was seriously tainted too.  
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,011
    i stand by my assertion that it is time for pelosi, schumer, and the old guard to go out to pasture. either by retirement, or getting primaried.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."

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