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Wow! Mind blowing to read about generational change and the dem party being more inclusive and finding a way to reach out to the youth. WOW!shecky said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Thanks. I’ll be sure to rot my brain by reading them.shecky said:
Since you asked so nicely, here are the Washington Examiner and Newsweek links:Halifax2TheMax said:
Ummm, the Washington Examiner is a conservative rag on par with Faux News. Nice try though. And of course you don’t link to the actual source articles.shecky said:
You're right. News isn't interesting when Fox News covers a story.mrussel1 said:
No it isn't. No Fox articles are interesting because they are all propaganda. "Like a Lunatic" is the well-known Fox strategy of quoting some dipshit on social media in order to influence your reading of the article. Use your own brain.shecky said:
But, is it interesting when other news sources cover the same story?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/3442708/randi-weingarten-lee-saunders-dnc-quit-latest-upheaval/
https://www.newsweek.com/dnc-randi-weingarten-resigns-quits-democratic-national-committee-leadership-2085875
You are welcome.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/union-leaders-randi-weingarten-and-lee-saunders-quit-dnc-posts-in-the-party-s-latest-dispute/ar-AA1GOFTV
I presume you don't mistrust CNN as well, so here is their headline and related story link for your edification. Please enjoy.
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biden spoke to maga in big people words, and they don't like that.mrussel1 said:
Just to be clear, you pointed out two issues Covid and the response, neither of which occurred on Biden's watch, as you accurately point out. So PJ's question is still open. What did Biden do that was so bad?mace1229 said:
A few key items are the economy. 2019-early 2020 was some of the best economy we had in 20 years. Then it tanked. Inflation and grocery prices skyrocketed.PJ_Soul said:I suppose I'm a simpleton, but I still can't even really figure out wtf Biden did that was so bad, or why so many Americans think their country was falling apart.... As far as I can tell, the only really serious problem the American people had - before Trump started blowing everything up - was all the rich people hoarding all the money at the expense of everyone else, which is still the case. Now things are a LOT worse than that
You can argue that’s beyond Biden, a result of the pandemic. And I wouldn’t disagree. But a lot of people didn’t like the early response to inflation.The excessive shut downs in many cases. None of that was on Biden either, but his general support of, or lack of disapproval, fired up a lot of people.
And especially the last year or more, obvious signs of decline that were ignored. The WH gas lighting and calling videos fakes that were clearly real. In the months since, several staffers have admitted to this problem.
Im not saying you should have voted for Trump and he is a clear-minded genius, but those were the biggest issues working against him coming up to the election.
The reality is that the exit from Afghanistan was the trigger issue that cost him confidence. That was when the approval rating dropped and never recovered."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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we all know headlines always tell the whole story.....shecky said:
I provided headlines to illustrate a point. I'm quite sure you are capable of doing a little Googling if you'd like more info.Halifax2TheMax said:
Ummm, the Washington Examiner is a conservative rag on par with Faux News. Nice try though. And of course you don’t link to the actual source articles.shecky said:
You're right. News isn't interesting when Fox News covers a story.mrussel1 said:
No it isn't. No Fox articles are interesting because they are all propaganda. "Like a Lunatic" is the well-known Fox strategy of quoting some dipshit on social media in order to influence your reading of the article. Use your own brain.shecky said:
But, is it interesting when other news sources cover the same story?
if you want to be taken seriously a link helps. most of us don't have time to google whatever you contribute."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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also shecky, going back a few days, you never answered.
is medicare an entitlement or an earned benefit?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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i saw schumer tweeted that he is happy mike lee took down the offensive posts.
why the fuck won't he censure him? he censured al green for fucks sakes.
this is why schumer and the old guard need to step down. they are fighting a madman by decorum and rules. its not going to work. schumer is bringing a loaf of bread to a gunfight."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Yes he should just go away!gimmesometruth27 said:i saw schumer tweeted that he is happy mike lee took down the offensive posts.
why the fuck won't he censure him? he censured al green for fucks sakes.
this is why schumer and the old guard need to step down. they are fighting a madman by decorum and rules. its not going to work. schumer is bringing a loaf of bread to a gunfight.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
More like baloney than bread.gimmesometruth27 said:i saw schumer tweeted that he is happy mike lee took down the offensive posts.
why the fuck won't he censure him? he censured al green for fucks sakes.
this is why schumer and the old guard need to step down. they are fighting a madman by decorum and rules. its not going to work. schumer is bringing a loaf of bread to a gunfight.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Said nothing until it was time to try and make Lee into a hero.gimmesometruth27 said:i saw schumer tweeted that he is happy mike lee took down the offensive posts.
why the fuck won't he censure him? he censured al green for fucks sakes.
this is why schumer and the old guard need to step down. they are fighting a madman by decorum and rules. its not going to work. schumer is bringing a loaf of bread to a gunfight.
My goodness there are a lot of feckless cowards in the opposition party now.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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I somewhat agree.mrussel1 said:
Just to be clear, you pointed out two issues Covid and the response, neither of which occurred on Biden's watch, as you accurately point out. So PJ's question is still open. What did Biden do that was so bad?mace1229 said:
A few key items are the economy. 2019-early 2020 was some of the best economy we had in 20 years. Then it tanked. Inflation and grocery prices skyrocketed.PJ_Soul said:I suppose I'm a simpleton, but I still can't even really figure out wtf Biden did that was so bad, or why so many Americans think their country was falling apart.... As far as I can tell, the only really serious problem the American people had - before Trump started blowing everything up - was all the rich people hoarding all the money at the expense of everyone else, which is still the case. Now things are a LOT worse than that
You can argue that’s beyond Biden, a result of the pandemic. And I wouldn’t disagree. But a lot of people didn’t like the early response to inflation.The excessive shut downs in many cases. None of that was on Biden either, but his general support of, or lack of disapproval, fired up a lot of people.
And especially the last year or more, obvious signs of decline that were ignored. The WH gas lighting and calling videos fakes that were clearly real. In the months since, several staffers have admitted to this problem.
Im not saying you should have voted for Trump and he is a clear-minded genius, but those were the biggest issues working against him coming up to the election.
The reality is that the exit from Afghanistan was the trigger issue that cost him confidence. That was when the approval rating dropped and never recovered.
I think high inflation was almost unavoidable after Covid. But I think Biden initially had a weak response and that hurt him. For several months he stated it was just temporary while the economy bounces back. Then he claimed multiple times it was at 9% when he took office. Although I never blamed Biden for the inflation, I think those responses hurt him when it came to economy polls.
Yes Afghanistan exit hurt him.
But I still think the biggest one was his signs of decline. You got called maga and drinking the kool aide here if you even questioned it. They tried to deny it and sweep it under the rug, but couldn’t deny it after the debate. That chain of events lead Trump to the win. If Biden was the same as he was 4 or 5 years ago, or if he never ran a second term and whoever replaced him went through a proper election, I don’t think Trump is in the WH today.0 -
gimmesometruth27 said:i saw schumer tweeted that he is happy mike lee took down the offensive posts.
why the fuck won't he censure him? he censured al green for fucks sakes.
this is why schumer and the old guard need to step down. they are fighting a madman by decorum and rules. its not going to work. schumer is bringing a loaf of bread to a gunfight.
senate or even house rules allow for the opposition minority party to call for a censure vote of a member of the majority?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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mickeyrat said:gimmesometruth27 said:i saw schumer tweeted that he is happy mike lee took down the offensive posts.
why the fuck won't he censure him? he censured al green for fucks sakes.
this is why schumer and the old guard need to step down. they are fighting a madman by decorum and rules. its not going to work. schumer is bringing a loaf of bread to a gunfight.
senate or even house rules allow for the opposition minority party to call for a censure vote of a member of the majority?and we're talking about speech....._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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It’s not about covering a story, it’s how it’s framed. Do you really not notice that about Fox?shecky said:
You're right. News isn't interesting when Fox News covers a story.mrussel1 said:
No it isn't. No Fox articles are interesting because they are all propaganda. "Like a Lunatic" is the well-known Fox strategy of quoting some dipshit on social media in order to influence your reading of the article. Use your own brain.shecky said:
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Maybe instead of moving towards the middle Dems can win elections by first trying to do the job?
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I don't know if I would criticize this. Do I expect the minority leader to read every single bill that every single Democrat puts forward, full well knowing it won't get a hearing even in committee? I don't know that's the best use of his time.Tim Simmons said:Maybe instead of moving towards the middle Dems can win elections by just doing the job?0 -
Fine if he doesn't read it. Super weird that he has zero position to at least speak on it. He couldn't at least get an abstract of it from a staffer because it deals with pushback to the biggest policy story affecting America right now? Even if it goes nowhere, at least try a bit.
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I do get that my bias against feckless Dems is coloring my view of this. Its just frustrating.
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I love that word feckless and will always remember the poster whom said it. I miss him, lolTim Simmons said:I do get that my bias against feckless Dems is coloring my view of this. Its just frustrating.
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That's fine. I'm not down on Jeffries yet.Tim Simmons said:Fine if he doesn't read it. Super weird that he has zero position to at least speak on it. He couldn't at least get an abstract of it from a staffer because it deals with pushback to the biggest policy story affecting America right now? Even if it goes nowhere, at least try a bit.0
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