Democrats

Go Beavers said:

When I hear 86’d I think of the restaurant context and getting kicked out of somewhere. 

Go Beavers said:

When I hear 86’d I think of the restaurant context and getting kicked out of somewhere. 

shecky said:

Well, this didn't take long.



Right on. Below is a partial lyric from John Lennon's "Instant Karma". Very apropos. 

shecky said:

Well, this didn't take long.



Right on. Below is a partial lyric from John Lennon's "Instant Karma". Very apropos. 

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

They are losing men because one party says ‘men be better and step up’ and the other is saying, ‘hey be your unrestrained self and do/say what you want’ and then prove that being leading by that same example. 

Like, how do you combat that? 

By offering voters something they might appeal to them? The problem is democrats are inside this bubble. The first few other replies, picture of an older R voter with their gun toting anti vaxxer. The exact opposite of what Silvers  point was, and something about a boxer…. Dems are not appealing to a large segment of voters, but it possibly can’t be their fault?

More from Silver….

“ I know it might not seem related at first, Carrie, but I’m thinking about your question in the context of the debate Democrats are having about how to win back young men. (Gen Z men actually voted majority Trump last year.) One Democratic group, for instance, recently proposed a $20 million initiative called “Speaking With American Men”. Adding fuel to the fire is the Catalist report I discussed last week that found an expanding gender gap, especially among young voters and Black and Latino men. In fact, essentially all of the decline that Harris experienced relative to Biden came from men

“How does this relate to the River and the Village? For those who haven’t read On the Edge, the Village is my term for basically the progressive establishment, which is consensus-driven and risk-averse rather than individualistic. Its quintessential institutions are Harvard and the New York Times, but this attitude is also very much reflected in Democratic political campaigns. Conversely, the River is for analytical, contrarian, risk-seeking types: think Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Las Vegas. Until fairly recently, the River mostly saw itself as being apolitical or part of a third, vaguely libertarian-ish “Grey Tribe”. But a faction of the River — not all of it by any means, but a prominent faction associated with people like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen — has become heavily invested in the conservative political movement over the past few years.

How should the dems respond is a reasonable question, but it starts with the question of why are people drawn to the republican message of anti-feminism, anti equal access, the politicization of gender, and the promotion of outdated, rigid gender roles. 

You are trying to understand why moderates and independents would not consider voting for Democrats, as they see the Democrats as extreme, by looking at the extreme from the right? This makes absolutely no sense.

I’m raising the question as to what the appeal of republicans is, as opposed to blaming the democrats for making them vote republican. And about half the population views both parties as too extreme, so another question is since the dems are mostly moderate, how did that perception take hold? The answer most likely lies in social media and the right’s grasp on misinformation and false narratives. 

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

They are losing men because one party says ‘men be better and step up’ and the other is saying, ‘hey be your unrestrained self and do/say what you want’ and then prove that being leading by that same example. 

Like, how do you combat that? 

By offering voters something they might appeal to them? The problem is democrats are inside this bubble. The first few other replies, picture of an older R voter with their gun toting anti vaxxer. The exact opposite of what Silvers  point was, and something about a boxer…. Dems are not appealing to a large segment of voters, but it possibly can’t be their fault?

More from Silver….

“ I know it might not seem related at first, Carrie, but I’m thinking about your question in the context of the debate Democrats are having about how to win back young men. (Gen Z men actually voted majority Trump last year.) One Democratic group, for instance, recently proposed a $20 million initiative called “Speaking With American Men”. Adding fuel to the fire is the Catalist report I discussed last week that found an expanding gender gap, especially among young voters and Black and Latino men. In fact, essentially all of the decline that Harris experienced relative to Biden came from men

“How does this relate to the River and the Village? For those who haven’t read On the Edge, the Village is my term for basically the progressive establishment, which is consensus-driven and risk-averse rather than individualistic. Its quintessential institutions are Harvard and the New York Times, but this attitude is also very much reflected in Democratic political campaigns. Conversely, the River is for analytical, contrarian, risk-seeking types: think Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Las Vegas. Until fairly recently, the River mostly saw itself as being apolitical or part of a third, vaguely libertarian-ish “Grey Tribe”. But a faction of the River — not all of it by any means, but a prominent faction associated with people like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen — has become heavily invested in the conservative political movement over the past few years.

How should the dems respond is a reasonable question, but it starts with the question of why are people drawn to the republican message of anti-feminism, anti equal access, the politicization of gender, and the promotion of outdated, rigid gender roles. 

You are trying to understand why moderates and independents would not consider voting for Democrats, as they see the Democrats as extreme, by looking at the extreme from the right? This makes absolutely no sense.

I’m raising the question as to what the appeal of republicans is, as opposed to blaming the democrats for making them vote republican. And about half the population views both parties as too extreme, so another question is since the dems are mostly moderate, how did that perception take hold? The answer most likely lies in social media and the right’s grasp on misinformation and false narratives. 

Without learning the who what where when or why, the same people will be around to fuck up future elections for Democrats. And the sheep don’t care

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

They are losing men because one party says ‘men be better and step up’ and the other is saying, ‘hey be your unrestrained self and do/say what you want’ and then prove that being leading by that same example. 

Like, how do you combat that? 

By offering voters something they might appeal to them? The problem is democrats are inside this bubble. The first few other replies, picture of an older R voter with their gun toting anti vaxxer. The exact opposite of what Silvers  point was, and something about a boxer…. Dems are not appealing to a large segment of voters, but it possibly can’t be their fault?

More from Silver….

“ I know it might not seem related at first, Carrie, but I’m thinking about your question in the context of the debate Democrats are having about how to win back young men. (Gen Z men actually voted majority Trump last year.) One Democratic group, for instance, recently proposed a $20 million initiative called “Speaking With American Men”. Adding fuel to the fire is the Catalist report I discussed last week that found an expanding gender gap, especially among young voters and Black and Latino men. In fact, essentially all of the decline that Harris experienced relative to Biden came from men

“How does this relate to the River and the Village? For those who haven’t read On the Edge, the Village is my term for basically the progressive establishment, which is consensus-driven and risk-averse rather than individualistic. Its quintessential institutions are Harvard and the New York Times, but this attitude is also very much reflected in Democratic political campaigns. Conversely, the River is for analytical, contrarian, risk-seeking types: think Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Las Vegas. Until fairly recently, the River mostly saw itself as being apolitical or part of a third, vaguely libertarian-ish “Grey Tribe”. But a faction of the River — not all of it by any means, but a prominent faction associated with people like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen — has become heavily invested in the conservative political movement over the past few years.

How should the dems respond is a reasonable question, but it starts with the question of why are people drawn to the republican message of anti-feminism, anti equal access, the politicization of gender, and the promotion of outdated, rigid gender roles. 

You are trying to understand why moderates and independents would not consider voting for Democrats, as they see the Democrats as extreme, by looking at the extreme from the right? This makes absolutely no sense.

I’m raising the question as to what the appeal of republicans is, as opposed to blaming the democrats for making them vote republican. And about half the population views both parties as too extreme, so another question is since the dems are mostly moderate, how did that perception take hold? The answer most likely lies in social media and the right’s grasp on misinformation and false narratives. 

Without learning the who what where when or why, the same people will be around to fuck up future elections for Democrats. And the sheep don’t care

Aren't the answers to your questions self evident?

again, you're hammering on this is incredibly tedious. 

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

They are losing men because one party says ‘men be better and step up’ and the other is saying, ‘hey be your unrestrained self and do/say what you want’ and then prove that being leading by that same example. 

Like, how do you combat that? 

By offering voters something they might appeal to them? The problem is democrats are inside this bubble. The first few other replies, picture of an older R voter with their gun toting anti vaxxer. The exact opposite of what Silvers  point was, and something about a boxer…. Dems are not appealing to a large segment of voters, but it possibly can’t be their fault?

More from Silver….

“ I know it might not seem related at first, Carrie, but I’m thinking about your question in the context of the debate Democrats are having about how to win back young men. (Gen Z men actually voted majority Trump last year.) One Democratic group, for instance, recently proposed a $20 million initiative called “Speaking With American Men”. Adding fuel to the fire is the Catalist report I discussed last week that found an expanding gender gap, especially among young voters and Black and Latino men. In fact, essentially all of the decline that Harris experienced relative to Biden came from men

“How does this relate to the River and the Village? For those who haven’t read On the Edge, the Village is my term for basically the progressive establishment, which is consensus-driven and risk-averse rather than individualistic. Its quintessential institutions are Harvard and the New York Times, but this attitude is also very much reflected in Democratic political campaigns. Conversely, the River is for analytical, contrarian, risk-seeking types: think Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Las Vegas. Until fairly recently, the River mostly saw itself as being apolitical or part of a third, vaguely libertarian-ish “Grey Tribe”. But a faction of the River — not all of it by any means, but a prominent faction associated with people like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen — has become heavily invested in the conservative political movement over the past few years.

How should the dems respond is a reasonable question, but it starts with the question of why are people drawn to the republican message of anti-feminism, anti equal access, the politicization of gender, and the promotion of outdated, rigid gender roles. 

You are trying to understand why moderates and independents would not consider voting for Democrats, as they see the Democrats as extreme, by looking at the extreme from the right? This makes absolutely no sense.

I’m raising the question as to what the appeal of republicans is, as opposed to blaming the democrats for making them vote republican. And about half the population views both parties as too extreme, so another question is since the dems are mostly moderate, how did that perception take hold? The answer most likely lies in social media and the right’s grasp on misinformation and false narratives. 

Without learning the who what where when or why, the same people will be around to fuck up future elections for Democrats. And the sheep don’t care

Aren't the answers to your questions self evident?

again, you're hammering on this is incredibly tedious. 

Ironically, someone earlier this week posted about a book written by a Biden operative, …”look at her. She’s leaving the Democratic Party. What a hero.” (Implied).  YouTube is flooded with misinformation and lies spread by that woman in the year leading up to Biden‘s retirement. I’m not sure what news you’re following, but I’m not aware of any accountability from the Democratic Party other than this. It’s great they seemingly pushed her out, but she is still putting out misinformation and I’m not sure we have the full story who else lied and forced Harris on us without a vote.

tagline for her book “ . “In an era of disinformation, misinformation, the regressiveness of social policy, what we are seeing currently right now, what I have decided to do, and I really have thought long and hard about this, is to follow my own compass.”

She was the one lying…democrats cry about democracy but in reality really don’t care.

if I’m taking away from The fun from all the taco jokes and more about Trump for your enjoyment that are posted here, I sincerely apologize for that.