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Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Go Beavers said:Lerxst1992 said:
Mental stability and an aversion to neurotic authoritarians are apparently Democratic kryptonite.
Nate Silver, an American statistician and founder of the now-shuttered political analysis blog FiveThirtyEight, recently dug into why men, young men in particular, don't like Democrats — a trend that has Democratic operatives scrambling both for answers and Joe Rogan-sized remedies.
Silver indicated that a big part of Democrats' problem might be that those young men beyond their reach are not mentally unstable or attracted to a mentally ill style of politics.
Losing men
Democrats — whom Americans largely regard as weak and ineffective — are right to be desperate.
'Young men's attachment to the GOP has grown.'
After all, in the 2024 election, President Donald Trump captured 60% of the white male vote, 54% of the Hispanic male vote, and 21% of the black male vote toward a combined total of 55% of the male vote overall.
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And boy with the middle name curse I get your obnoxious first grade sarcasm... that's in no way you're comment about myself genius it's a comment about your constant need to cut others down. Enjoy this post, it applies
‘The study found that conservatives rate themselves higher on personality and attitude measures like religiosity, marital status and patriotism, all of which are associated with better mental health.
Yet when researchers substituted the term "overall mood" for "mental health" in survey questions, the ideological gap disappeared.
This discrepancy may be explained by conservatives' greater discomfort with the term "mental health," which has become politicized and stigmatized in right-leaning circles.
"I would say that the main reason we may see this is because conservatives tend to take on more masculine traits, valuing things like toughness and seeing weakness in people who need help," Schaffner said.
He added a reference to the article: "Many mental illnesses often are stereotyped asdangerous, unpredictable, indicative of bad character, or a sign of personal weakness.
"Under a conservative ideology that emphasizes stability, security and personal agency, the thought of mental illness may invite thoughts of the unknown, or appear as a threat to their security."
Did you catch COOTWH’s response to the video of Macron’s wife pushing him at the airplane door? COOTWH’s advice? “Keep the door closed.”You realize he is joking, right? (My preference is he doesn’t joke like that, but it’s not important here). The point of silvers research is to try to determine why democrats have lost votes with every demographic, which is unusual in these polarizing times where the huge majority of voters stay in their silos.
All the replies above make light of silver trying to peer into the worst 2024 demo, the manosphere. Glad to see so may here think their losing so many voters is funny.
Christian: Majority of dems are christian/religious
White: Majority of dems are white
Straight: Majority of dems are "straight"
Republican: Yeah that's stupid
Unvaxxed: Also stupid but to each their own
Gun owner: Who cares...lots of dems own guns, I own one
Meat Eater: Majority of dems eat meat
Just stupidRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
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Gern Blansten said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Go Beavers said:Lerxst1992 said:
Mental stability and an aversion to neurotic authoritarians are apparently Democratic kryptonite.
Nate Silver, an American statistician and founder of the now-shuttered political analysis blog FiveThirtyEight, recently dug into why men, young men in particular, don't like Democrats — a trend that has Democratic operatives scrambling both for answers and Joe Rogan-sized remedies.
Silver indicated that a big part of Democrats' problem might be that those young men beyond their reach are not mentally unstable or attracted to a mentally ill style of politics.
Losing men
Democrats — whom Americans largely regard as weak and ineffective — are right to be desperate.
'Young men's attachment to the GOP has grown.'
After all, in the 2024 election, President Donald Trump captured 60% of the white male vote, 54% of the Hispanic male vote, and 21% of the black male vote toward a combined total of 55% of the male vote overall.
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And boy with the middle name curse I get your obnoxious first grade sarcasm... that's in no way you're comment about myself genius it's a comment about your constant need to cut others down. Enjoy this post, it applies
‘The study found that conservatives rate themselves higher on personality and attitude measures like religiosity, marital status and patriotism, all of which are associated with better mental health.
Yet when researchers substituted the term "overall mood" for "mental health" in survey questions, the ideological gap disappeared.
This discrepancy may be explained by conservatives' greater discomfort with the term "mental health," which has become politicized and stigmatized in right-leaning circles.
"I would say that the main reason we may see this is because conservatives tend to take on more masculine traits, valuing things like toughness and seeing weakness in people who need help," Schaffner said.
He added a reference to the article: "Many mental illnesses often are stereotyped asdangerous, unpredictable, indicative of bad character, or a sign of personal weakness.
"Under a conservative ideology that emphasizes stability, security and personal agency, the thought of mental illness may invite thoughts of the unknown, or appear as a threat to their security."
Did you catch COOTWH’s response to the video of Macron’s wife pushing him at the airplane door? COOTWH’s advice? “Keep the door closed.”You realize he is joking, right? (My preference is he doesn’t joke like that, but it’s not important here). The point of silvers research is to try to determine why democrats have lost votes with every demographic, which is unusual in these polarizing times where the huge majority of voters stay in their silos.
All the replies above make light of silver trying to peer into the worst 2024 demo, the manosphere. Glad to see so may here think their losing so many voters is funny.
Christian: Majority of dems are christian/religious
White: Majority of dems are white
Straight: Majority of dems are "straight"
Republican: Yeah that's stupid
Unvaxxed: Also stupid but to each their own
Gun owner: Who cares...lots of dems own guns, I own one
Meat Eater: Majority of dems eat meat
Just stupid
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Merkin Baller said:Gern Blansten said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Go Beavers said:Lerxst1992 said:
Mental stability and an aversion to neurotic authoritarians are apparently Democratic kryptonite.
Nate Silver, an American statistician and founder of the now-shuttered political analysis blog FiveThirtyEight, recently dug into why men, young men in particular, don't like Democrats — a trend that has Democratic operatives scrambling both for answers and Joe Rogan-sized remedies.
Silver indicated that a big part of Democrats' problem might be that those young men beyond their reach are not mentally unstable or attracted to a mentally ill style of politics.
Losing men
Democrats — whom Americans largely regard as weak and ineffective — are right to be desperate.
'Young men's attachment to the GOP has grown.'
After all, in the 2024 election, President Donald Trump captured 60% of the white male vote, 54% of the Hispanic male vote, and 21% of the black male vote toward a combined total of 55% of the male vote overall.
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And boy with the middle name curse I get your obnoxious first grade sarcasm... that's in no way you're comment about myself genius it's a comment about your constant need to cut others down. Enjoy this post, it applies
‘The study found that conservatives rate themselves higher on personality and attitude measures like religiosity, marital status and patriotism, all of which are associated with better mental health.
Yet when researchers substituted the term "overall mood" for "mental health" in survey questions, the ideological gap disappeared.
This discrepancy may be explained by conservatives' greater discomfort with the term "mental health," which has become politicized and stigmatized in right-leaning circles.
"I would say that the main reason we may see this is because conservatives tend to take on more masculine traits, valuing things like toughness and seeing weakness in people who need help," Schaffner said.
He added a reference to the article: "Many mental illnesses often are stereotyped asdangerous, unpredictable, indicative of bad character, or a sign of personal weakness.
"Under a conservative ideology that emphasizes stability, security and personal agency, the thought of mental illness may invite thoughts of the unknown, or appear as a threat to their security."
Did you catch COOTWH’s response to the video of Macron’s wife pushing him at the airplane door? COOTWH’s advice? “Keep the door closed.”You realize he is joking, right? (My preference is he doesn’t joke like that, but it’s not important here). The point of silvers research is to try to determine why democrats have lost votes with every demographic, which is unusual in these polarizing times where the huge majority of voters stay in their silos.
All the replies above make light of silver trying to peer into the worst 2024 demo, the manosphere. Glad to see so may here think their losing so many voters is funny.
Christian: Majority of dems are christian/religious
White: Majority of dems are white
Straight: Majority of dems are "straight"
Republican: Yeah that's stupid
Unvaxxed: Also stupid but to each their own
Gun owner: Who cares...lots of dems own guns, I own one
Meat Eater: Majority of dems eat meat
Just stupid
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:I love the claim “religiosity, marital status, and patriotism, all of which are associated with better mental health”.Interesting how that doesn’t bear out in the real world outside of the US. I simply can’t reconcile the angry white male who wears tshirts like the one above as having superior mental health over even a gnat.Gobeavers took it from the article:Go Beavers said:Validity wanes when people are asked to self report mental and emotional well being. Too many internal factors come into play.
‘The study found that conservatives rate themselves higher on personality and attitude measures like religiosity, marital status and patriotism, all of which are associated with better mental health.
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mickeyrat said:Vitalogensia said:Won't someone please think of the young men?!
yes, what about the children?
From CNN:Trump administration takes hundreds of migrant children out of their homes, into government custody
The Trump administration is taking hundreds of migrant children already residing in the United States out of their homes and into government custody, at times separating them from their families and making it more difficult for them to be released, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
President Donald Trump and his top aides have repeatedly cited the influx of children who arrived at the US southern border under the Biden administration without a parent or guardian as a critique of his predecessor and his handling of border security. Trump officials argue that hundreds of thousands of those children went unaccounted for — and are in potentially dangerous situations.
While former Biden officials contend that the surge of kids in 2021 placed tremendous pressure on the federal system, they and several experts in the field refute claims that there are large numbers of children missing from the system.
Still, the notion that there are thousands of such children has served as the impetus for a major campaign by the Trump administration to set up a makeshift “war room” to pore over sensitive data and deploy federal authorities to children’s homes nationwide.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement has taken around 500 children into government custody following so-called welfare checks since Trump returned to the White House, according to three sources familiar with the matter, either because their situations were deemed unsafe or because of immigration enforcement actions against sponsors, the majority of whom are the kids’ parents or other family members. That number is more than previously known and an unprecedented departure from previous years when such occurrences were rare.
The FBI has been involved in some of the welfare checks, frustrating some at the bureau who expressed concerns that the effort is more targeted at finding children’s relatives who law enforcement otherwise has no pretext to investigate or arrest, according to a law enforcement official.
An FBI spokesperson confirmed in a statement that the agency is assisting other agencies in conducting welfare checks on migrant children. “Protecting children is a critical mission for the FBI and we will continue to work with our federal, state, and local partners to secure their safety and well-being,” the spokesperson said.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/04/politics/migrant-children-families-government-custody
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DE4173 said:Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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Actually pretty clever by old man Chuck. I had a little laugh.
Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-New York) on Wednesday jabbed at President Donald Trump’s tax and immigration package formally known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, calling the sweeping legislation the “Well, We’re All Going to Die Act."
The renaming references remarks by Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) at a town hall last week at which she shocked constituents who voiced their concerns about the bill’s effects on Medicaid coverage and responded to attendees, “Well, we all are going to die, for heaven’s sakes, folks.”
Now in fairness to arguments made here, we should be careful about this. Obviously Chuck Schumer is taunting Trump and he may decide to kill us all because we are teasing him, so I'm not sure if Chuck learned the lessons that Lerx is teaching.
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mrussel1 said:Actually pretty clever by old man Chuck. I had a little laugh.
Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-New York) on Wednesday jabbed at President Donald Trump’s tax and immigration package formally known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, calling the sweeping legislation the “Well, We’re All Going to Die Act."
The renaming references remarks by Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) at a town hall last week at which she shocked constituents who voiced their concerns about the bill’s effects on Medicaid coverage and responded to attendees, “Well, we all are going to die, for heaven’s sakes, folks.”
Now in fairness to arguments made here, we should be careful about this. Obviously Chuck Schumer is taunting Trump and he may decide to kill us all because we are teasing him, so I'm not sure if Chuck learned the lessons that Lerx is teaching.
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mrussel1 said:Actually pretty clever by old man Chuck. I had a little laugh.
Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-New York) on Wednesday jabbed at President Donald Trump’s tax and immigration package formally known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, calling the sweeping legislation the “Well, We’re All Going to Die Act."
The renaming references remarks by Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) at a town hall last week at which she shocked constituents who voiced their concerns about the bill’s effects on Medicaid coverage and responded to attendees, “Well, we all are going to die, for heaven’s sakes, folks.”
Now in fairness to arguments made here, we should be careful about this. Obviously Chuck Schumer is taunting Trump and he may decide to kill us all because we are teasing him, so I'm not sure if Chuck learned the lessons that Lerx is teaching.
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Tim Simmons said:They are losing men because one party says ‘men be better and step up’ and the other is saying, ‘hey be your unrestrained self and do/say what you want’ and then prove that being leading by that same example.Like, how do you combat that?By offering voters something they might appeal to them? The problem is democrats are inside this bubble. The first few other replies, picture of an older R voter with their gun toting anti vaxxer. The exact opposite of what Silvers point was, and something about a boxer…. Dems are not appealing to a large segment of voters, but it possibly can’t be their fault?More from Silver….“ I know it might not seem related at first, Carrie, but I’m thinking about your question in the context of the debate Democrats are having about how to win back young men. (Gen Z men actually voted majority Trump last year.) One Democratic group, for instance, recently proposed a $20 million initiative called “Speaking With American Men”. Adding fuel to the fire is the Catalist report I discussed last week that found an expanding gender gap, especially among young voters and Black and Latino men. In fact, essentially all of the decline that Harris experienced relative to Biden came from men
“How does this relate to the River and the Village? For those who haven’t read On the Edge, the Village is my term for basically the progressive establishment, which is consensus-driven and risk-averse rather than individualistic. Its quintessential institutions are Harvard and the New York Times, but this attitude is also very much reflected in Democratic political campaigns. Conversely, the River is for analytical, contrarian, risk-seeking types: think Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Las Vegas. Until fairly recently, the River mostly saw itself as being apolitical or part of a third, vaguely libertarian-ish “Grey Tribe”. But a faction of the River — not all of it by any means, but a prominent faction associated with people like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen — has become heavily invested in the conservative political movement over the past few years.
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HughFreakingDillon said:DE4173 said:Socialist, unemployed and low innovation and entrepreneurship?0
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DE4173 said:LOL LOL LOL LOL
ONE OF THE BIDEN INSIDERS WHO LIED ABOUT HIS COGNITIVE ABILITIES!!NOW SHE WANTS TO MAKE A BUCK OVER HER DISHONESTY!!
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Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:DE4173 said:Socialist, unemployed and low innovation and entrepreneurship?0
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mrussel1 said:Actually pretty clever by old man Chuck. I had a little laugh.
Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-New York) on Wednesday jabbed at President Donald Trump’s tax and immigration package formally known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, calling the sweeping legislation the “Well, We’re All Going to Die Act."
The renaming references remarks by Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) at a town hall last week at which she shocked constituents who voiced their concerns about the bill’s effects on Medicaid coverage and responded to attendees, “Well, we all are going to die, for heaven’s sakes, folks.”
Now in fairness to arguments made here, we should be careful about this. Obviously Chuck Schumer is taunting Trump and he may decide to kill us all because we are teasing him, so I'm not sure if Chuck learned the lessons that Lerx is teaching.
Hysterical. Both you and Chuck. Thanks for the laugh. It makes a little more sense coming from the democratic leader of the senate, but it’s still a waste and likely will rally support on the right for that crappy bill.
Taunting trump doesn’t work. This should be played like an NBA game. Run out the clock. I’m guessing Chris Krebs and Miles Taylor privately wish they had their chances back. You ain’t gonna convince trump voters so what are you accomplishing? Instead, figure out what your country wants and needs. When they say both sides are bad, it’s crappy politics like this that makes the left look more like trump than them.And get on the ground, 24/7/365. For real. Not the ground game lies insiders like Ms Pierre tells us election after election.0 -
mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:DE4173 said:Socialist, unemployed and low innovation and entrepreneurship?
and stop the maga man crap. You know that’s a lie and you are capable of better.
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