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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,693
    Lerxst1992 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    "if dems hadn't won the two elections they won, they would have lost both". Now that's some fucking genius logic right there folks. 

    I think the point was the rules for the Biden victory were different from every other election we’ve had in recent times. These rules benefited Democrats, clearly. I know it’s been a long time which makes it difficult to think up there, and I know the Oilers could end the agony, but let’s try to think clearly, man. You can do better. I know you don’t think that, but it’s true





    if you don’t believe that, the advances to quantitative computing are astounding in the last year. You can ask AI and learn something for yourself, but you have to know how to phrase the right question. Here’s the question to ask AI. Post into Google and learn. You are welcome.

    “did the 2020 general election have different rules for voting?”
    I hate to say it but this is correct. Under normal circumstances Trump dominates 2020. He is America and America is him. There is no viable opposition party. And there hasn't been since ODS (Obummer Derangement Syndrome) hit the peak in his second term.

    MAGA is the only party now and for the forseeable future. And it's because of the most beloved person in the history of this country.
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  • Merkin Baller
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    OnWis97 said:
    tbergs said:
    hunterh75 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tbergs said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    DE4173 said:
    "Pete Buttigieg just laid out the best case yet for the future of the Democratic party":

    https://x.com/DemocraticWins/status/1928112976017404256?t=yMuzIq7vDKtSR9zFVx2kuw&s=19

    Pete is great...my fear is that we just aren't ready for him yet
    I feel like we might be by 2028. The pendulum has to swing back from the grievance and anger platform after the next 3.5 horrible years. Trump is going to bury us in debt with his policies and generally people should seek hope from a Dem candidate again. If Trump is hated enough, a la GWB after term 2, someone like Pete who has charisma, is a great speaker and overall a good person could easily get the popular vote despite automatically losing votes for no other reason than homophobia.
    I kind of feel like the lost votes wouldn't vote dem anyway but I do wonder if the USA is ready to upend the first lady tradition...having a female POTUS is a bit different but this would be a radical change.

    I would vote for him all day long though. I would love a Newsom/Pete ticket or Shapiro/Pete

    we've already had a first second gentleman ,  soooooo.....


    Pete could hardly qualify as a 2nd gentleman, lol. He's already fake breast fed a baby for months while neglecting his duties. Jesus fucking Christ
    It'd be nice if you brought some substance to any of your posts or could ever leave the cult and not act like everything Trump does is great. It's just weird to worship anyone like that. 
    I hate to say it but that is kinda substantive. That photo would be used constantly. Pete would not overcome that.
    Is that the altered image that originally came from a Japanese company's advertisement, or is there a real photo out there? 

    I've only heard of the former. 
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,693
    doesn't matter
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,233
    every other candidate has overcome a fake photo/video and this would be no different. 

    now if we want to talk about America electing a gay man, thats a different discussion. But I don't think a poor photoshop existing is game changer.


  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    Tim Simmons said:
    every other candidate has overcome a fake photo/video and this would be no different. 

    now if we want to talk about America electing a gay man, thats a different discussion. But I don't think a poor photoshop existing is game changer.


    Agreed.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,233
    edited June 2
    Right now with a dip in support for gay marriage among conservatives (now closer to 40% support, down from a high of 55% 3 years ago), it would be a hot button issue and I don't know if its a swing issue for those who are soft conservative or not. Luckily its still very high (75%) among Dems and indies (averaged to 68% of all US adults, all parties).

    Its really about finding out how those that don't vote feel about it and if he can bring them into the booth.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,233
    I do think Pete is the best mouthpiece for Dems right now. He respectfully takes no shit, makes arguments pragmatically and does it with a midwestern affable manner. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,233
    But bigots are always gonna bigot as we see. So its about beating them and their smooth brain POV back.


  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,812
    If the hilarious George Carlin was still alive, I would've sworn he wrote the previous three posts! Talk about double entendres! Ha ha ha!
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    shecky said:
    If the hilarious George Carlin was still alive, I would've sworn he wrote the previous three posts! Talk about double entendres! Ha ha ha!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Tim Simmons said:
    But bigots are always gonna bigot as we see. So its about beating them and their smooth brain POV back.


    No way Pete gets elected at a national level. He could become the dem nominee but he’ll never become president, unfortunately.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    "if dems hadn't won the two elections they won, they would have lost both". Now that's some fucking genius logic right there folks. 

    I think the point was the rules for the Biden victory were different from every other election we’ve had in recent times. These rules benefited Democrats, clearly. I know it’s been a long time which makes it difficult to think up there, and I know the Oilers could end the agony, but let’s try to think clearly, man. You can do better. I know you don’t think that, but it’s true





    if you don’t believe that, the advances to quantitative computing are astounding in the last year. You can ask AI and learn something for yourself, but you have to know how to phrase the right question. Here’s the question to ask AI. Post into Google and learn. You are welcome.

    “did the 2020 general election have different rules for voting?”
    What specific “rules” benefitted Brandon? How so? Did they give Brandon an advantage that was not available to COOTWH? If so, why? Who bears responsibility for it?

    Its remarkable to watch the rewriting of history to try and lay all of the blame on Dems rather than hold repubs accountable for what they, and they alone with “indies” and non-voters have foisted upon a once great nation.

    Sold their souls. Because “the other.”
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    Like it all happened in a vacuum during “normal” times.
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    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/02/fetterman-mental-health-congress-00380050

    Hope he does what's in his best interests health wise.

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  • Gern Blansten
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    But bigots are always gonna bigot as we see. So its about beating them and their smooth brain POV back.


    No way Pete gets elected at a national level. He could become the dem nominee but he’ll never become president, unfortunately.
    I think you're right...not in 2028 at least. 

    I think the GOP is going to be in a very strange place. The nomination process will be interesting as I think they will all be trying to be trump version 2 and it will be very hard for non narcissists to accomplish that.
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    Gern Blansten said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    But bigots are always gonna bigot as we see. So its about beating them and their smooth brain POV back.


    No way Pete gets elected at a national level. He could become the dem nominee but he’ll never become president, unfortunately.
    I think you're right...not in 2028 at least. 

    I think the GOP is going to be in a very strange place. The nomination process will be interesting as I think they will all be trying to be trump version 2 and it will be very hard for non narcissists to accomplish that.
    On the topic of the GOP, the question to me is, what percentage of Republican voters vote that way due to Trump, versus due to Republican ideals. I have no way of knowing, of course, but the next election may reveal that. It's often hard to replace a charismatic dictator who has promoted himself as the 'only viable option'. What would happen in Russia tomorrow if Putin died and (for some reason) the country decided to embrace a democratic election?
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  • mrussel1
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    hunterh75 said:
    Everyone here can bash DJT all day which is your US right but WTF can you say anything positive about JB from 2020-2024??
    Bashing is easy cause you need Zero proof. Proving something with facts is harder. No talk of the MSM cover up of his dementia even from lib media.....prove me wrong, lol....Mic drop...,..
    You mean, the story that was broken by *checks notes* "Liberal Media" CNN Talking Head Jake Tapper. Let me google news him real quick and lets see what sort of sourcing...oh



    While it’s true that the liberal media broke the story…It’s also true that the liberal media is pretty much ignoring it. The Democrats (and Bidens team)  spent a lot of time telling us that Biden was the only person capable of beating Trump while someone was responsible for hiding his true condition from us.

     It’s paramount we learn the who what where when how behind this so we are not being lead by corrupt politicians in the future.But no one on the left seems to care

     

    They broke the story they are ignoring. Got it. 
  • Merkin Baller
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    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    hunterh75 said:
    Everyone here can bash DJT all day which is your US right but WTF can you say anything positive about JB from 2020-2024??
    Bashing is easy cause you need Zero proof. Proving something with facts is harder. No talk of the MSM cover up of his dementia even from lib media.....prove me wrong, lol....Mic drop...,..
    You mean, the story that was broken by *checks notes* "Liberal Media" CNN Talking Head Jake Tapper. Let me google news him real quick and lets see what sort of sourcing...oh



    While it’s true that the liberal media broke the story…It’s also true that the liberal media is pretty much ignoring it. The Democrats (and Bidens team)  spent a lot of time telling us that Biden was the only person capable of beating Trump while someone was responsible for hiding his true condition from us.

     It’s paramount we learn the who what where when how behind this so we are not being lead by corrupt politicians in the future.But no one on the left seems to care

     

    They broke the story they are ignoring. Got it. 
    It makes sense if you don't think about it. 
  • mrussel1
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    "if dems hadn't won the two elections they won, they would have lost both". Now that's some fucking genius logic right there folks. 

    I think the point was the rules for the Biden victory were different from every other election we’ve had in recent times. These rules benefited Democrats, clearly. I know it’s been a long time which makes it difficult to think up there, and I know the Oilers could end the agony, but let’s try to think clearly, man. You can do better. I know you don’t think that, but it’s true





    if you don’t believe that, the advances to quantitative computing are astounding in the last year. You can ask AI and learn something for yourself, but you have to know how to phrase the right question. Here’s the question to ask AI. Post into Google and learn. You are welcome.

    “did the 2020 general election have different rules for voting?”
    States control their voting rules. That’s in the Constitution literally.  So yes, there are different rules for voting EVERY ELECTION. 

    Rules that make it easier to vote and increase turnout benefit Democrats. 

    Thanks for more pearls of wisdom that blow our minds. 
  • mickeyrat
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    shecky said:
    If the hilarious George Carlin was still alive, I would've sworn he wrote the previous three posts! Talk about double entendres! Ha ha ha!

    Carlin wasnt joking.....
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