Canadian Politics Redux

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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,921
    dignin said:
    Which side was it decided is nastier? Lego hair, really?

    I’ve always understood sore losers but I don’t think I’ll ever understand sore winners.
    Is PP a sore loser than?
    Huh? I don’t understand your point.
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,921

    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,352
    dignin said:
    Are the Americans helping the Canadian teams win in the playoffs, are they ass hats too? White Americans as well… I wonder what party they and their families usually support… Just saying, hoping for peace with our polite neighbors.
    What a weird comment.
    Totally out of left field. Par for the course. What does this have to do with hockey? I for one was against the booing of the US anthem- it’s logically pretty stupid, given how many Americans are on the tram you cheer for. But whatever. Dividers gotta divide. 

    Got a great money making idea for you. Come down to Dallas for the weekend , nice red state. Meet lots of peeps, share your thoughts, convince a few to vote dem, and who knows, maybe Vance loses in 2028. But here’s the kicker. Go to the game and afterwards download the CBP app and tell them you are here illegally. They’ll pay you a cool thousand bucks usd to go back! Win, win, hopefully, if that possibly great US goalie shows up!
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
    edited May 6
    dignin said:
    Are the Americans helping the Canadian teams win in the playoffs, are they ass hats too? White Americans as well… I wonder what party they and their families usually support… Just saying, hoping for peace with our polite neighbors.
    What a weird comment.
    Totally out of left field. Par for the course. What does this have to do with hockey? I for one was against the booing of the US anthem- it’s logically pretty stupid, given how many Americans are on the tram you cheer for. But whatever. Dividers gotta divide. 

    Got a great money making idea for you. Come down to Dallas for the weekend , nice red state. Meet lots of peeps, share your thoughts, convince a few to vote dem, and who knows, maybe Vance loses in 2028. But here’s the kicker. Go to the game and afterwards download the CBP app and tell them you are here illegally. They’ll pay you a cool thousand bucks usd to go back! Win, win, hopefully, if that possibly great US goalie shows up!
    Nah, most of us don't want to visit your country and give you our money.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,046
    Which side was it decided is nastier? Lego hair, really?

    I’ve always understood sore losers but I don’t think I’ll ever understand sore winners.
    I know it’s allowed, but I don’t like it, no matter who does it. It’s shady. You can’t win your own riding when going for PM? Your political career is over. I hope he loses that bi-election. Unlikely, since they always pick the safest seat in these situations, but it would be hilarious if it happened. 
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,921
    Which side was it decided is nastier? Lego hair, really?

    I’ve always understood sore losers but I don’t think I’ll ever understand sore winners.
    I know it’s allowed, but I don’t like it, no matter who does it. It’s shady. You can’t win your own riding when going for PM? Your political career is over. I hope he loses that bi-election. Unlikely, since they always pick the safest seat in these situations, but it would be hilarious if it happened. 
    Don’t worry, the longest ballot fools are showing their partisan colours by pledging to run their operation for the byelection.

     It’s strange, because they claim they’re protesting an abandoned promise by Trudeau, wouldn’t it make actual sense to target Liberals?

    Gotta love all the laughter here at others pain.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,046
    dignin said:
    Are the Americans helping the Canadian teams win in the playoffs, are they ass hats too? White Americans as well… I wonder what party they and their families usually support… Just saying, hoping for peace with our polite neighbors.
    What a weird comment.
    Totally out of left field. Par for the course. What does this have to do with hockey? I for one was against the booing of the US anthem- it’s logically pretty stupid, given how many Americans are on the tram you cheer for. But whatever. Dividers gotta divide. 

    Got a great money making idea for you. Come down to Dallas for the weekend , nice red state. Meet lots of peeps, share your thoughts, convince a few to vote dem, and who knows, maybe Vance loses in 2028. But here’s the kicker. Go to the game and afterwards download the CBP app and tell them you are here illegally. They’ll pay you a cool thousand bucks usd to go back! Win, win, hopefully, if that possibly great US goalie shows up!
    You’re really losing your marbles trying to trigger me/other Canadians. It’s getting sad. 

    Helle is a fantastic goalie. Oh shit! YOU’RE RIGHT! He IS American! Now I don’t think I can cheer for my own team!! It has enemy players on it! /s

    Your trolling attempts are pathetic. 
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,921
    Here’s hoping that putting someone with zero legislative and political experience doesn’t backfire on us as Carney meets Trump today.

    Hopefully he’ll fare better than the snowboard instructor and failed teacher he was anointed to replace.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,366
    Anointed??
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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,834
    PJ_Soul said:
    Anointed??
    obviously he means democratically elected. lol 
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  • erebuserebus Posts: 594
    So what did Mr. Poilievre accomplish in his 20 years of service? Anything significant?

    I think Mr. Singh did  more with less in his time there.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
    Parksy said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Anointed??
    obviously he means democratically elected. lol 
    Only.if it's a Conservative 
  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,921
    PJ_Soul said:
    Anointed??
    How else to describe the leadership race that put a complete political rookie in the top job in the country? Do we know how many underage Chinese nationals voted in that process?

    It was nice that he was able to dodge the longest ballot tools and, yes, was finally democratically elected. It’s going to be very interesting observing how the rookie navigates his minority mandate. More “confidence-and-supply”?
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  • erebuserebus Posts: 594
    Did they shred the ballots right away like in the Poilievre/Bernier leadership race. Found out later the numbers didn’t add up…
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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,834
    PJ_Soul said:
    Anointed??
    How else to describe the leadership race that put a complete political rookie in the top job in the country? Do we know how many underage Chinese nationals voted in that process?

    It was nice that he was able to dodge the longest ballot tools and, yes, was finally democratically elected. It’s going to be very interesting observing how the rookie navigates his minority mandate. More “confidence-and-supply”?
    I mean....  if we're tossing out phrases like "political rookie" ... Conservative types... yourself possibly included... need to start focusing more on their own problems and not the liberals. 

    A "political rookie" came in and beat a man who has around 20 years experience. 

    That fellow with 20 years of political experience somehow managed to lose what should have been the easiest election EVER. Full stop. 

    And from what I'm hearing and seeing on the news, at work, and from friends and family is extremely similar. No one liked the guy. He ran a campaign on essentially being an asshole. (A method that worked for Trump, thus the comparisons.) I can dissect that for days but it really does boil down to that. He didn't see that coming?!!? NO ONE in the Conservative campaign saw that coming? Do they not know and understand Canadians? 

    I asked a close friend of mine who is hardcore conservative and anti liberal after the election....  "Hey, do you think conservatives learned anything from this?"   His response: "I don't know will old baby boomer Canadians learn from this mistake"   So... no. No he did not. This is a 46 year old man. 

    Also.. the longest ballot thing, while stupid, had nothing... zero... ziltch to do with an election loss. Nothing. Any Conservative that even sniffs at that is incapable of seeing the forest through the trees here. 

    The fact that conservatives are going back to the Pierre well is next level dumb.

    Canadian Conservatives in general... are like a pro football team that fumbles 5 times, tosses 6 interceptions, takes 100 yards in dumb penalties... obviously loses the game... and blames it on the refs. And if publications like the Sun and Rebel News are also blaming the refs... they may want to find a new source of information. 


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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,334

    Mark Carney fact checks Donald Trump:

    Trump: “We don’t do much business with Canada.”

    Carney: “Respectfully, we are the largest client of the United States.”
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  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    erebus said:
    So what did Mr. Poilievre accomplish in his 20 years of service? Anything significant?

    I think Mr. Singh did  more with less in his time there.
    Couldn't he have workmore with his East Indian community to prevent fentanyl and the resulting deaths of primarily Canadian Caucasians and disproportionate number of Indigenous folk? 

    I'm becoming racist pretty quick since East Indians supply the fentanyl in my city.
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  • erebuserebus Posts: 594
    He probably could have done more, but I think all politicians of every stripe (local, provincial,federal)should be aiming to crack down on the fentanyl crisis. The one silver lining of Trumps rise is that we will get a stronger border which I think may benefit us.

    the items Singh pushed( ie: dental care)which the Liberals took credit for were more than the Conservatives helped with. 

    Ultimately I would like to see all parties working together, not trying to own the other.

    i know it is naive of me
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  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    I don't really follow politics too terribly well but even I knew that was an NDP promoting dental care for all especially the poor that aren't covered. Seems okay if the liberals took credit because they had to pass it ultimately? 

    I don't know about this ownership of one another but I agree It's great when people work together. I guess a minority government helps people work across party lines.
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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,834
    To illustrate my point about blaming the refs... In a recent move... Conservative Party sent fundraising emails to members suggesting that Liberals are trying to cheat their way into a majority.  (with zero evidence.) 

    Can't stress this enough to conservative voters.....  stop doing anything that even remotely resembles the American Republican party. And stop blaming anyone other than yourselves for failing to win an election in Canada.  Emails like this are self inflicting wounds and completely unnecessary. 
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,921
    Since no one is rushing to praise Carney’s Cabinet, here’s a bit of analysis. Here’s hoping all the rookies don’t fuck up too badly.

    https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/kinsella-carney-taps-a-whole-lot-of-inexperience-in-his-new-cabinet
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  • erebuserebus Posts: 594
    edited May 14
    Or just maybe people just have a wait and see approach before criticizing.
    Mr.Poilievre went from all wanting to work together back to shitting all over people in 30 seconds during his response. Ya, that unelected guy , living in the opposition leader’s house. Maybe have some humility and actually move out before assuming you are winning an unnecessary by election on our dime. I can only imagine what Conservatives would be saying if the opposite had have happened. Same old PP, do some soul searching and clean up your own party.
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,921
    erebus said:
    Or just maybe people just have a wait and see approach before criticizing.
    Mr.Poilievre went from all wanting to work together back to shitting all over people in 30 seconds during his response. Ya, that unelected guy , living in the opposition leader’s house. Maybe have some humility and actually move out before assuming you are winning an unnecessary by election on our dime. I can only imagine what Conservatives would be saying if the opposite had have happened. Same old PP, do some soul searching and clean up your own party.
    I believe as long as he’s the leader of His Majesty’s Loyal Opposition then he’s allowed to live in the house, regardless of whether or not he currently holds a seat. Or would you have stopped Carney from moving into the cottage until after the election?

    Why does everyone refuse to sell the wonderful Liberal Government to us nonbelievers?

     Always with the criticism of the opposition party, and rarely seeking accountability (or as I suggested promote) the sitting government. After a while it’s quite sad to watch, honestly.
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  • erebuserebus Posts: 594
    Nobody has to sell them to you, they were democratically elected. You can choose to accept it or not.

    just like you choose to criticize and oppose every Liberal move rather than wanting to work together.
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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,834
    erebus said:
    Or just maybe people just have a wait and see approach before criticizing.
    Mr.Poilievre went from all wanting to work together back to shitting all over people in 30 seconds during his response. Ya, that unelected guy , living in the opposition leader’s house. Maybe have some humility and actually move out before assuming you are winning an unnecessary by election on our dime. I can only imagine what Conservatives would be saying if the opposite had have happened. Same old PP, do some soul searching and clean up your own party.
    I believe as long as he’s the leader of His Majesty’s Loyal Opposition then he’s allowed to live in the house, regardless of whether or not he currently holds a seat. Or would you have stopped Carney from moving into the cottage until after the election?

    Why does everyone refuse to sell the wonderful Liberal Government to us nonbelievers?

     Always with the criticism of the opposition party, and rarely seeking accountability (or as I suggested promote) the sitting government. After a while it’s quite sad to watch, honestly.
    your bias knows no limits sir. 
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,921
    So no one thinks Carney’s Cabinet is wonderful and will save us from Trump, you only want to shit on Conservatives no matter how petty your complaints.

    Got it. Enjoy.
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  • erebuserebus Posts: 594
    No one that I have seen is praising them.

    Let's see what they do. Your mind is already made up.

    The only shatting I see was coming from Mr. Poilievre and yourself. 
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,921
    erebus said:
    No one that I have seen is praising them.

    Let's see what they do. Your mind is already made up.

    The only shatting I see was coming from Mr. Poilievre and yourself. 
    Where did I shit on them? I expressed a concern about so many political rookies occupying so many of the top jobs in the country.

    It’s not my problem if you choose to intentionally misread me or misrepresent my statements.

    Now, this is a criticism: read the caption under the photo, which is factual. Should Solomon be trusted with the AI Ministry if he’s that easily duped?


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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,834
    So no one thinks Carney’s Cabinet is wonderful and will save us from Trump, you only want to shit on Conservatives no matter how petty your complaints.

    Got it. Enjoy.
    Your takes are that of an opinion regarding a hockey team that hasn't even played a game yet. 
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,921
    It’s honestly adorable (and betrays your own biases) how my anti-Trudeau sentiments have been twisted into anti-Liberal beliefs.

     It’s also amusing how many of my criticisms of the GOVERNMENT are either ignored or answered with whataboutisms (then without a trace of irony I’m told that I only argue in whataboutisms). I can only assume that when my points go unanswered it’s because I’m, in fact, correct.

    At least in a couple weeks the Liberals are giving us back a fully functioning government after holding the government hostage while they ran their leadership race, all while a “crisis” was unfolding.

    I think I was supposed to come on here and rant about how Carney’s elbows were no longer up and he was essentially sucking Trump’s cock during his visit to the White House. Except I was castigating Trudeau for not using the soft hands approach, but it was funny to hear Carney saying all the things he told us to fear the Conservatives saying during the election.
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