Canadian Politics Redux

HughFreakingDillon

I have no idea how one correlates being a murderous tyrant with being homeless. That is one insane stretch. 

I don’t judge the homeless cuz I have empathy.  You don’t judge them cuz they are a product of their time? No clue what you’re saying here. 

Coming to the defence of residential schools. That’s a new one. Mass graves or not, the system was horrific and caused generational trauma. Full stop. 

Getting all worked up about an outgoing political leader having a little fun on his last day, during a traditional act that is already kind of silly, is weird. 

I wasn’t suggesting Diana was murdered. She was subject to a systematic smear campaign from the royal family which lead the insane media over there to act even more reckless than they usually are. Refusing to continue protecting her post-divorce was a catastrophe waiting to happen, and they knew it. 

The PC’s were never progressive. It was a failure of a branding campaign. Two PM’s ago was a guy who thought women should be barefoot and pregnant. 

HughFreakingDillon

Respect not reverence? You called us “us commoners”. That’s reverential. 

If you excuse people’s behaviour as a product of their time, what about the people in the same time that weren’t like them? I mean, not everyone agreed the “savages” needed to be tamed. How do you explain them? Time travellers?

PJ_Soul

Has anyone else seen the new Real Canadian Superstore ad going right now? Not sure which provinces it's airing in. But it is a pretty standard heartfelt Canadian business ad, but the person narrating it is clearly Michael J Fox, without any attribution at all. It actually makes me tear up everytime I hear it, because of the amazing man's situation, and the fact that there is zero reference to him, even though he is narrating the ad, with his disabled voice, and that we know it's him anyway, is somehow very touching. Aw. 

josevolution

https://www.foxnews.com/world/trump-claims-canada-considering-offer-free-golden-dome-exchange-becoming-51st-state.amp

He’s always claiming BS just absurd! 

PJ_Soul

I don't think he even knows who that shit impacts in the US. It pisses Canadians off, and that is literally it as far as I can tell. It's not like there is this crazy movement among Americans or even MAGA that is pushing for it. He is fuckijg delirious when he posts on truth social. 

Parksy

I liken Trump's 51st state rhetoric to that of Brad Marchand. A pest. 

A pest will aggravate and annoy to gain a response with which would then give a rationale. Example....  the pest will chop your ankle when the ref isn't looking because he wants that player to react in such a way that either gains a power play OR gives a reason to be more aggressive without going on the penalty kill.  My source? On the ice, I'm a pest.  

With Trump, I'm not sure what his angle is or what reaction he's hoping for. He likely wants some sort of rationale to do something. What that something is? I'm not sure. But the solution to me is quite simple... don't take the bait. 

Parksy

That said... it also wouldn't surprise me if he's just trolling liberal type people like an immature man child. 

Original_Shifty

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bellingham-letter-bc-cities-1.7545411#:~:text=Now, a letter signed by,Canada and Bellingham will continue.

Halifax2TheMax

Original_Shifty said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bellingham-letter-bc-cities-1.7545411#:~:text=Now, a letter signed by,Canada and Bellingham will continue.

Should be sending that letter to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and every repub member of congress but coming from a blue state, it’ll end up in the trash unopened, never mind read and responded to.

DarthMaeglin

HughFreakingDillon said:

I have no idea how one correlates being a murderous tyrant with being homeless. That is one insane stretch. 

I don’t judge the homeless cuz I have empathy.  You don’t judge them cuz they are a product of their time? No clue what you’re saying here. 

Coming to the defence of residential schools. That’s a new one. Mass graves or not, the system was horrific and caused generational trauma. Full stop. 

Getting all worked up about an outgoing political leader having a little fun on his last day, during a traditional act that is already kind of silly, is weird. 

I wasn’t suggesting Diana was murdered. She was subject to a systematic smear campaign from the royal family which lead the insane media over there to act even more reckless than they usually are. Refusing to continue protecting her post-divorce was a catastrophe waiting to happen, and they knew it. 

The PC’s were never progressive. It was a failure of a branding campaign. Two PM’s ago was a guy who thought women should be barefoot and pregnant. 

This is a big part of why you and I can’t get along here, your habit of twisting my words, instead of maybe asking me to clarify myself.

A better example was perhaps that I try not to judge people on the other side of the planet (of all walks of life) who live a life and usually a belief system that I will likely never experience directly. We can agree to disagree about how we perceive the world, is probably the simplest way to put it.

 If you think I was defending the residential schools then I suggest you reread my post. All I want is a full and accurate accounting of our history, yes, warts and all. For all we know Trudeau was kneeling over a bottle cap, and we won’t know until the archaeological dig begins (as far as I can recall governments have put money on the table for that purpose so I don’t understand the delay).

Regarding Trudeau, reread my post. Further proof of his disrespect for our institutions is his choice of footwear for the Throne Speech, some snazzy green and red/orange Adidas sneakers. But many if not most here will applaud him for it. I don’t think you can actually read anything I write accurately that includes his name because of your perception of my supposed obsession.

Thank you for elaborating about Diana, that’s certainly one way to look at it.

“The PCs were never progressive.” Ok, how does that bullshit stereotype square with your claim that you don’t hate the political right? It’s that sort of silliness that has me ready to just walk away from at least this thread, if not the board.

AMT could easily be subtitled “Never the twain shall meet”, it’s sad, really.

DarthMaeglin

HughFreakingDillon said:

Respect not reverence? You called us “us commoners”. That’s reverential. 

If you excuse people’s behaviour as a product of their time, what about the people in the same time that weren’t like them? I mean, not everyone agreed the “savages” needed to be tamed. How do you explain them? Time travellers?

Jeez, you completely miss that I’m simply acknowledging the existing social strata. That’s not reverence to me, but whatever at this point.

DarthMaeglin

PJ_Soul said:

Has anyone else seen the new Real Canadian Superstore ad going right now? Not sure which provinces it's airing in. But it is a pretty standard heartfelt Canadian business ad, but the person narrating it is clearly Michael J Fox, without any attribution at all. It actually makes me tear up everytime I hear it, because of the amazing man's situation, and the fact that there is zero reference to him, even though he is narrating the ad, with his disabled voice, and that we know it's him anyway, is somehow very touching. Aw. 

I noticed that a couple weeks ago and was touched like you were.

It was shortly followed by a Tim Horton’s ad with Kiefer Sutherland doing the voiceover, lol.

DarthMaeglin

Parksy said:

That said... it also wouldn't surprise me if he's just trolling liberal type people like an immature man child. 

This is pretty much what I think, that he’s simply trolling us with the 51st State crap, initially because he hates Trudeau, and now he’s seen how it gets under so many of our skins.

As far as all the other chaos he’s created, I’m still trying to figure out the actual endgame is (as opposed to what the pundits claim, though that means consuming a variety of pundits among other sources, lol).

Next week I’ll be back up with my Trump and Musk loving aunt and uncle. It’s going to be interesting to see if and how their perspectives on them have changed. I’ll also be getting a healthy dose of Fox News, which is always amusing to watch, lol.

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

Has anyone else seen the new Real Canadian Superstore ad going right now? Not sure which provinces it's airing in. But it is a pretty standard heartfelt Canadian business ad, but the person narrating it is clearly Michael J Fox, without any attribution at all. It actually makes me tear up everytime I hear it, because of the amazing man's situation, and the fact that there is zero reference to him, even though he is narrating the ad, with his disabled voice, and that we know it's him anyway, is somehow very touching. Aw. 

Seen it several times. I was actually disappointed that Fox did that (at first, but hey, everyone needs a paycheque). Loblaws is one of the companies that is price gouging the average consumer, claiming it’s all inflation while celebrating record profits. Now they’re jumping on the Canadian patriot bandwagon so they reap even more. 

HughFreakingDillon

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I have no idea how one correlates being a murderous tyrant with being homeless. That is one insane stretch. 

I don’t judge the homeless cuz I have empathy.  You don’t judge them cuz they are a product of their time? No clue what you’re saying here. 

Coming to the defence of residential schools. That’s a new one. Mass graves or not, the system was horrific and caused generational trauma. Full stop. 

Getting all worked up about an outgoing political leader having a little fun on his last day, during a traditional act that is already kind of silly, is weird. 

I wasn’t suggesting Diana was murdered. She was subject to a systematic smear campaign from the royal family which lead the insane media over there to act even more reckless than they usually are. Refusing to continue protecting her post-divorce was a catastrophe waiting to happen, and they knew it. 

The PC’s were never progressive. It was a failure of a branding campaign. Two PM’s ago was a guy who thought women should be barefoot and pregnant. 

This is a big part of why you and I can’t get along here, your habit of twisting my words, instead of maybe asking me to clarify myself.

A better example was perhaps that I try not to judge people on the other side of the planet (of all walks of life) who live a life and usually a belief system that I will likely never experience directly. We can agree to disagree about how we perceive the world, is probably the simplest way to put it.

 If you think I was defending the residential schools then I suggest you reread my post. All I want is a full and accurate accounting of our history, yes, warts and all. For all we know Trudeau was kneeling over a bottle cap, and we won’t know until the archaeological dig begins (as far as I can recall governments have put money on the table for that purpose so I don’t understand the delay).

Regarding Trudeau, reread my post. Further proof of his disrespect for our institutions is his choice of footwear for the Throne Speech, some snazzy green and red/orange Adidas sneakers. But many if not most here will applaud him for it. I don’t think you can actually read anything I write accurately that includes his name because of your perception of my supposed obsession.

Thank you for elaborating about Diana, that’s certainly one way to look at it.

“The PCs were never progressive.” Ok, how does that bullshit stereotype square with your claim that you don’t hate the political right? It’s that sort of silliness that has me ready to just walk away from at least this thread, if not the board.

AMT could easily be subtitled “Never the twain shall meet”, it’s sad, really.

I don’t judge others from other walks of life either on the surface. I judge actions. That’s it. 

I don’t “applaud” JT for any of these things. I just simply don’t get all bent out of shape about them. 

Bullshit stereotype? It’s simply my opinion that the PC’s weren’t progressive. Honestly, I don’t care that much if you keep attempting to label me as hating anything. I know I don’t. I’m not the one raging at the shoe choices of a political leader. I wouldn’t care if PP did that. I likely wouldn’t notice. Or I’d realize that fashion trends and traditions can be shaped and morphed along with the times. Young adults wear suits with sneakers to big events all the time. Should women should still be wearing corsets? Sounds like the republicans when Obama wore a tan suit. 

DarthMaeglin

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I have no idea how one correlates being a murderous tyrant with being homeless. That is one insane stretch. 

I don’t judge the homeless cuz I have empathy.  You don’t judge them cuz they are a product of their time? No clue what you’re saying here. 

Coming to the defence of residential schools. That’s a new one. Mass graves or not, the system was horrific and caused generational trauma. Full stop. 

Getting all worked up about an outgoing political leader having a little fun on his last day, during a traditional act that is already kind of silly, is weird. 

I wasn’t suggesting Diana was murdered. She was subject to a systematic smear campaign from the royal family which lead the insane media over there to act even more reckless than they usually are. Refusing to continue protecting her post-divorce was a catastrophe waiting to happen, and they knew it. 

The PC’s were never progressive. It was a failure of a branding campaign. Two PM’s ago was a guy who thought women should be barefoot and pregnant. 

This is a big part of why you and I can’t get along here, your habit of twisting my words, instead of maybe asking me to clarify myself.

A better example was perhaps that I try not to judge people on the other side of the planet (of all walks of life) who live a life and usually a belief system that I will likely never experience directly. We can agree to disagree about how we perceive the world, is probably the simplest way to put it.

 If you think I was defending the residential schools then I suggest you reread my post. All I want is a full and accurate accounting of our history, yes, warts and all. For all we know Trudeau was kneeling over a bottle cap, and we won’t know until the archaeological dig begins (as far as I can recall governments have put money on the table for that purpose so I don’t understand the delay).

Regarding Trudeau, reread my post. Further proof of his disrespect for our institutions is his choice of footwear for the Throne Speech, some snazzy green and red/orange Adidas sneakers. But many if not most here will applaud him for it. I don’t think you can actually read anything I write accurately that includes his name because of your perception of my supposed obsession.

Thank you for elaborating about Diana, that’s certainly one way to look at it.

“The PCs were never progressive.” Ok, how does that bullshit stereotype square with your claim that you don’t hate the political right? It’s that sort of silliness that has me ready to just walk away from at least this thread, if not the board.

AMT could easily be subtitled “Never the twain shall meet”, it’s sad, really.

I don’t judge others from other walks of life either on the surface. I judge actions. That’s it. 

I don’t “applaud” JT for any of these things. I just simply don’t get all bent out of shape about them. 

Bullshit stereotype? It’s simply my opinion that the PC’s weren’t progressive. Honestly, I don’t care that much if you keep attempting to label me as hating anything. I know I don’t. I’m not the one raging at the shoe choices of a political leader. I wouldn’t care if PP did that. I likely wouldn’t notice. Or I’d realize that fashion trends and traditions can be shaped and morphed along with the times. Young adults wear suits with sneakers to big events all the time. Should women should still be wearing corsets? Sounds like the republicans when Obama wore a tan suit. 

I stopped reading at “raging at the shoe choices”, that was another funny mischaracterization of what I said. If I had posted angrily about it on its own, sure, but all I did was mention it, for fuck’s sake.

HughFreakingDillon

The fact it bothered you at all is the point, “for fuck’s sake”. 

HughFreakingDillon

But please, do lament how your party should have the “progressive” label again. 

DarthMaeglin

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I have no idea how one correlates being a murderous tyrant with being homeless. That is one insane stretch. 

I don’t judge the homeless cuz I have empathy.  You don’t judge them cuz they are a product of their time? No clue what you’re saying here. 

Coming to the defence of residential schools. That’s a new one. Mass graves or not, the system was horrific and caused generational trauma. Full stop. 

Getting all worked up about an outgoing political leader having a little fun on his last day, during a traditional act that is already kind of silly, is weird. 

I wasn’t suggesting Diana was murdered. She was subject to a systematic smear campaign from the royal family which lead the insane media over there to act even more reckless than they usually are. Refusing to continue protecting her post-divorce was a catastrophe waiting to happen, and they knew it. 

The PC’s were never progressive. It was a failure of a branding campaign. Two PM’s ago was a guy who thought women should be barefoot and pregnant. 

This is a big part of why you and I can’t get along here, your habit of twisting my words, instead of maybe asking me to clarify myself.

A better example was perhaps that I try not to judge people on the other side of the planet (of all walks of life) who live a life and usually a belief system that I will likely never experience directly. We can agree to disagree about how we perceive the world, is probably the simplest way to put it.

 If you think I was defending the residential schools then I suggest you reread my post. All I want is a full and accurate accounting of our history, yes, warts and all. For all we know Trudeau was kneeling over a bottle cap, and we won’t know until the archaeological dig begins (as far as I can recall governments have put money on the table for that purpose so I don’t understand the delay).

Regarding Trudeau, reread my post. Further proof of his disrespect for our institutions is his choice of footwear for the Throne Speech, some snazzy green and red/orange Adidas sneakers. But many if not most here will applaud him for it. I don’t think you can actually read anything I write accurately that includes his name because of your perception of my supposed obsession.

Thank you for elaborating about Diana, that’s certainly one way to look at it.

“The PCs were never progressive.” Ok, how does that bullshit stereotype square with your claim that you don’t hate the political right? It’s that sort of silliness that has me ready to just walk away from at least this thread, if not the board.

AMT could easily be subtitled “Never the twain shall meet”, it’s sad, really.

I don’t judge others from other walks of life either on the surface. I judge actions. That’s it. 

I don’t “applaud” JT for any of these things. I just simply don’t get all bent out of shape about them. 

Bullshit stereotype? It’s simply my opinion that the PC’s weren’t progressive. Honestly, I don’t care that much if you keep attempting to label me as hating anything. I know I don’t. I’m not the one raging at the shoe choices of a political leader. I wouldn’t care if PP did that. I likely wouldn’t notice. Or I’d realize that fashion trends and traditions can be shaped and morphed along with the times. Young adults wear suits with sneakers to big events all the time. Should women should still be wearing corsets? Sounds like the republicans when Obama wore a tan suit. 

I read the rest of your post, it might help if occasionally you acknowledge when you’ve gotten shit wrong and maybe even apologize when you put offensive labels on people (residential school defender).

DarthMaeglin

HughFreakingDillon said:

The fact it bothered you at all is the point, “for fuck’s sake”. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

But please, do lament how your party should have the “progressive” label again. 

Why don’t you ask me how I define progressive conservatism?

Or you could make an actual case for your “regressive” smear.