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  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,377
    Completely unacceptable. The entitlement of some of those "super fans" is obnoxious. 
  • JoeyP21
    JoeyP21 Allentown, PA Posts: 194
    demetrios said:
    on2legs said:
    What did we miss? No Facebook over here. 


    This is disgusting. 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,163
    Glad I don’t deal with these folks anymore! And it’s the same people at every show 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,899
    I stopped going to shows, haven't been since 2018?

    A lot is because of GA and the sense of competition and entitlement.  There is a GA cartel and they are un-checked by the band management, despite years of reports.
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,068
    Any names of these people?


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,079
    Someone needs to start filming their behavior and post it.  
  • nalyd61
    nalyd61 Boston Posts: 734
    that group should be ashamed.  How is this not being addressed by the band? their membership should be revoked,

  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,554
    Someone should take pictures of these entitled fools and call them out on here. 
    "I got memories, I got shit"
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,412
    edited May 12
    Streets is watching...
    Post edited by Go Animal on
    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

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  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,412
    edited May 12
    😒
    Post edited by Go Animal on
    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Kwieneke
    Kwieneke Indiana Posts: 2,156
    damn. That really sucks and is unfortunate to see
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    It is not being addressed by the band because they are in close with the band and security. I am waiting to hear the other side of this story as there always is two sides though this is pretty damning.

    In the meantime just taking a look at all the negative comments about them in that post by others who have experienced not so great interactions with them is really unfortunate to see. 

    There are a couple of great people in that group and one or two post here. I would be curious what there take is on all of this. The problem is if you step out of line with the pack you know what happens 


  • dgpj92
    dgpj92 Posts: 213
    JojoRice said:
    Someone should take pictures of these entitled fools and call them out on here. 
    In addition to the pictures, wonder if we'll get the other side of the story from someone who was there for this incident. 
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,412
    PJNB said:
    It is not being addressed by the band because they are in close with the band and security. I am waiting to hear the other side of this story as there always is two sides though this is pretty damning.

    In the meantime just taking a look at all the negative comments about them in that post by others who have experienced not so great interactions with them is really unfortunate to see. 

    There are a couple of great people in that group and one or two post here. I would be curious what there take is on all of this. The problem is if you step out of line with the pack you know what happens 


    💯 
    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,292
    I am not in Raleigh so I can’t speak to this incident. But I have been camping out and have been near the front of the GA line for all the other shows so far this tour. I have not seen any of this bad behavior. Everyone has been really nice and helpful and orderly when it comes to the line. People help each other out with food, merch, setting tents up, etc. It’s been really fun. The only altercation I saw was when a person tried to hold a spot for someone who didn’t stay out the whole time. He snuck her into the front of the line and security made her leave the line. Other than that there has been no issues that I could see. I’m sure some people have had bad experiences for whatever reason - but that is no reason to criticize a whole group of really nice people.  
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,412
    GlowGirl said:
    I am not in Raleigh so I can’t speak to this incident. But I have been camping out and have been near the front of the GA line for all the other shows so far this tour. I have not seen any of this bad behavior. Everyone has been really nice and helpful and orderly when it comes to the line. People help each other out with food, merch, setting tents up, etc. It’s been really fun. The only altercation I saw was when a person tried to hold a spot for someone who didn’t stay out the whole time. He snuck her into the front of the line and security made her leave the line. Other than that there has been no issues that I could see. I’m sure some people have had bad experiences for whatever reason - but that is no reason to criticize a whole group of really nice people.  
    Speaking for myself, I don't lump you into the toxic/obsessed/entitled portion of the rail gang, M*****. You're hardcore (and even get seats sometimes to mix it up!) but this still happened, and incidents like it have happened before.

    There's one older gentleman who I will refrain from mentioning his name who treats this as a club, and he's the elder/wise man/decision maker. You know who I'm talking about. 

    And unless we're friends with him, or help him & his crew get GA spares, we (the regular ass/semi-obsessed fans) are outcast & shunned. Like the poor bastard who posted on FB.

    I absolutely believe the incident happened the way he wrote it, because he's not asking for anything. He just shared he experience & left. That's shameful.

    Meanwhile, under the guise of familiarity, some regulars wield their influence to get everything they want. And people who dream of doing GA just ONCE (all-time, or in a long time) are left out, dejected & felt like they don't belong to the club.

    I would rather piss off 5, 50, or 500 rail gang fans & help get things changed up, than have ONE fan feeling the way that guy feels today.
    35 years, 35 shows.

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08

    ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,163
    Funny though the band said it was tired of seeing the same folks up front at their shows and that’s exactly what has happened since GA was implemented! At least when they did have reserved seating up front rows 1&2 and 7&8 gave a chance to put random folks up front that doesn’t happen anymore 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • pjsyco
    pjsyco Wilmington, NC Posts: 652
    https://youtu.be/iudmMgbAAmI?si=dD3dwc-mA4ZnQ7wA
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,292
    Go Animal said:
    GlowGirl said:
    I am not in Raleigh so I can’t speak to this incident. But I have been camping out and have been near the front of the GA line for all the other shows so far this tour. I have not seen any of this bad behavior. Everyone has been really nice and helpful and orderly when it comes to the line. People help each other out with food, merch, setting tents up, etc. It’s been really fun. The only altercation I saw was when a person tried to hold a spot for someone who didn’t stay out the whole time. He snuck her into the front of the line and security made her leave the line. Other than that there has been no issues that I could see. I’m sure some people have had bad experiences for whatever reason - but that is no reason to criticize a whole group of really nice people.  
    Speaking for myself, I don't lump you into the toxic/obsessed/entitled portion of the rail gang, M*****. You're hardcore (and even get seats sometimes to mix it up!) but this still happened, and incidents like it have happened before.

    There's one older gentleman who I will refrain from mentioning his name who treats this as a club, and he's the elder/wise man/decision maker. You know who I'm talking about. 

    And unless we're friends with him, or help him & his crew get GA spares, we (the regular ass/semi-obsessed fans) are outcast & shunned. Like the poor bastard who posted on FB.

    I absolutely believe the incident happened the way he wrote it, because he's not asking for anything. He just shared he experience & left. That's shameful.

    Meanwhile, under the guise of familiarity, some regulars wield their influence to get everything they want. And people who dream of doing GA just ONCE (all-time, or in a long time) are left out, dejected & felt like they don't belong to the club.

    I would rather piss off 5, 50, or 500 rail gang fans & help get things changed up, than have ONE fan feeling the way that guy feels today.
    Thanks for the kind words. Like I said, I wasn’t there so I don’t know the other side of the story. I just can’t imagine the people I know who were queuing up acting like that. During this tour there have been several people new to camping and the group and they were wholeheartedly welcomed. I can only speak from my own experiences. Obviously, everyone has different views and experiences. But most of the people who camp out in the queue are good people. I really have to stress that point. 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    GlowGirl said:
    Go Animal said:
    GlowGirl said:
    I am not in Raleigh so I can’t speak to this incident. But I have been camping out and have been near the front of the GA line for all the other shows so far this tour. I have not seen any of this bad behavior. Everyone has been really nice and helpful and orderly when it comes to the line. People help each other out with food, merch, setting tents up, etc. It’s been really fun. The only altercation I saw was when a person tried to hold a spot for someone who didn’t stay out the whole time. He snuck her into the front of the line and security made her leave the line. Other than that there has been no issues that I could see. I’m sure some people have had bad experiences for whatever reason - but that is no reason to criticize a whole group of really nice people.  
    Speaking for myself, I don't lump you into the toxic/obsessed/entitled portion of the rail gang, M*****. You're hardcore (and even get seats sometimes to mix it up!) but this still happened, and incidents like it have happened before.

    There's one older gentleman who I will refrain from mentioning his name who treats this as a club, and he's the elder/wise man/decision maker. You know who I'm talking about. 

    And unless we're friends with him, or help him & his crew get GA spares, we (the regular ass/semi-obsessed fans) are outcast & shunned. Like the poor bastard who posted on FB.

    I absolutely believe the incident happened the way he wrote it, because he's not asking for anything. He just shared he experience & left. That's shameful.

    Meanwhile, under the guise of familiarity, some regulars wield their influence to get everything they want. And people who dream of doing GA just ONCE (all-time, or in a long time) are left out, dejected & felt like they don't belong to the club.

    I would rather piss off 5, 50, or 500 rail gang fans & help get things changed up, than have ONE fan feeling the way that guy feels today.
    Thanks for the kind words. Like I said, I wasn’t there so I don’t know the other side of the story. I just can’t imagine the people I know who were queuing up acting like that. During this tour there have been several people new to camping and the group and they were wholeheartedly welcomed. I can only speak from my own experiences. Obviously, everyone has different views and experiences. But most of the people who camp out in the queue are good people. I really have to stress that point. 
    Were the new people at the front of the line?

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