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  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,324
    edited May 6
    mrussel1 said:
    Bullshit.....You did no research on any alternative talking points. Most of this thread was from 2022 a full two years into COVID and you still were spewing out talking points from BIG Pharma and the politicians bought by them. You should all be embarrassed. We will never forget what hell you all put us and our kids through. You will feel it at the polls for the next 5 years. The people that were dying had 3-4 comorbidity's. Also if you died in a car accident and or were in hospice and had covid in your system they counted that as a covid death are just some more examples.  

    Also PJ take those ridiculous mask's that are for sale off the store in the misc. section. Enough already. They are f-ing cloth mask's and do more harm than good. 

    https://ratical.org/PandemicParallaxView/index.html#JMMA
    Do people with co-morbidities not deserve to live?  
    Of course they do. But they sure should have taken precautions. They isolate themselves. COVID sure wasn't sold that way to you now was it? They had you convinced that healthy people were dropping like flies and you bought it. Suicidal empathy is not the way. 
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,873
    We will never forget what hell you all put us and our kids through. You will feel it at the polls for the next 5 years. 
    This is a real tell. Public health and vaccination are not partisan issues. By the way, Trump was president when they implemented 15 Days to Stop the Spread, and then 30 Days to Stop the Spread. Not Hillary Clinton. Not Joe Biden. Trump was the president who authorized Operation Warp Speed to quickly develop the vaccine. For Christ's sake, Trump complains to this day that the vaccine wasn't available before the 2020 election. But it's all Democrats' fault.

    The scary thing is that people like you have put folks into power who are going to make us less safe, less healthy and poorer, and you'll swallow it gladly as long as you can "own the libs" (regardless of the fact that most of the people who will suffer are not liberals, and some of the people you're arguing with here are not liberals). Trump got 49.8 percent of the vote, and all he's done since his election is alienate everyone other than his base of cult members. Your hubris is really misplaced in a world where a Republican presidential candidate has not received 50 percent of the vote since 2004 and just once since 1988. The 2026 midterms are not shaping up to bear out your prediction/threat above.
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,889
    edited May 6
    This is like yelling at someone for reading in a library. 

    Tell me you haven’t been to a library without saying you haven’t been to a library, a place famous for having people yelling 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,800
    New right wing buzz term, “suicidal empathy.”
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,889
    edited May 6
    Dark Empathy was right there. 
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,475
    I agree, the world today has way too much empathy.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,539
    mrussel1 said:
    Bullshit.....You did no research on any alternative talking points. Most of this thread was from 2022 a full two years into COVID and you still were spewing out talking points from BIG Pharma and the politicians bought by them. You should all be embarrassed. We will never forget what hell you all put us and our kids through. You will feel it at the polls for the next 5 years. The people that were dying had 3-4 comorbidity's. Also if you died in a car accident and or were in hospice and had covid in your system they counted that as a covid death are just some more examples.  

    Also PJ take those ridiculous mask's that are for sale off the store in the misc. section. Enough already. They are f-ing cloth mask's and do more harm than good. 

    https://ratical.org/PandemicParallaxView/index.html#JMMA
    Do people with co-morbidities not deserve to live?  
    Of course they do. But they sure should have taken precautions. They isolate themselves. COVID sure wasn't sold that way to you now was it? They had you convinced that healthy people were dropping like flies and you bought it. Suicidal empathy is not the way. 
    It's not practical for people with disabilities, immuno-compromised, co-morbidities to isolate themselves fully.  They have to go to work, the doctors, their kids and grandkids are in school, etc.  Second, you are applying knowledge you have now to decisions that were made without that knowledge.  Unless somehow you had some advance knowledge that the Trump administration didn't have.  Pray-tell, was that the situation?  

    But let's talk about these co-morbidities.  Over 100MM Americans are considered obese.  Over 120MM have heart disease. 18MM have cancer.  38MM have diabetes.  Certainly there is overlap here, but it's easy to say that almost half of Americans have a co-morbidity.  So yeah, I'm pretty happy with how the vaccine turned out.  Now you tell me how half of America can isolate themselves while their wives, husbands, kids, parents, continue to live life as normal, and not transmit the disease.
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,674
    edited 4:04PM
    Bullshit.....You did no research on any alternative talking points. Most of this thread was from 2022 a full two years into COVID and you still were spewing out talking points from BIG Pharma and the politicians bought by them. You should all be embarrassed. We will never forget what hell you all put us and our kids through. You will feel it at the polls for the next 5 years. The people that were dying had 3-4 comorbidity's. Also if you died in a car accident and or were in hospice and had covid in your system they counted that as a covid death are just some more examples.  

    Also PJ take those ridiculous mask's that are for sale off the store in the misc. section. Enough already. They are f-ing cloth mask's and do more harm than good. 

    https://ratical.org/PandemicParallaxView/index.html#JMMA
    Exactly!!..car accideent, heart attack, canser, whatever you died, if you had covid they list you as covid victim..pathetic..
    the fairy tale of ''millions died''..
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,305
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Bullshit.....You did no research on any alternative talking points. Most of this thread was from 2022 a full two years into COVID and you still were spewing out talking points from BIG Pharma and the politicians bought by them. You should all be embarrassed. We will never forget what hell you all put us and our kids through. You will feel it at the polls for the next 5 years. The people that were dying had 3-4 comorbidity's. Also if you died in a car accident and or were in hospice and had covid in your system they counted that as a covid death are just some more examples.  

    Also PJ take those ridiculous mask's that are for sale off the store in the misc. section. Enough already. They are f-ing cloth mask's and do more harm than good. 

    https://ratical.org/PandemicParallaxView/index.html#JMMA
    Do people with co-morbidities not deserve to live?  
    Of course they do. But they sure should have taken precautions. They isolate themselves. COVID sure wasn't sold that way to you now was it? They had you convinced that healthy people were dropping like flies and you bought it. Suicidal empathy is not the way. 
    It's not practical for people with disabilities, immuno-compromised, co-morbidities to isolate themselves fully.  They have to go to work, the doctors, their kids and grandkids are in school, etc.  Second, you are applying knowledge you have now to decisions that were made without that knowledge.  Unless somehow you had some advance knowledge that the Trump administration didn't have.  Pray-tell, was that the situation?  

    But let's talk about these co-morbidities.  Over 100MM Americans are considered obese.  Over 120MM have heart disease. 18MM have cancer.  38MM have diabetes.  Certainly there is overlap here, but it's easy to say that almost half of Americans have a co-morbidity.  So yeah, I'm pretty happy with how the vaccine turned out.  Now you tell me how half of America can isolate themselves while their wives, husbands, kids, parents, continue to live life as normal, and not transmit the disease.
    Another important part is just how many of these co-morbidities may not be known to the individual affected, specifically heart disease.
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,889
    23scidoo said:
    Bullshit.....You did no research on any alternative talking points. Most of this thread was from 2022 a full two years into COVID and you still were spewing out talking points from BIG Pharma and the politicians bought by them. You should all be embarrassed. We will never forget what hell you all put us and our kids through. You will feel it at the polls for the next 5 years. The people that were dying had 3-4 comorbidity's. Also if you died in a car accident and or were in hospice and had covid in your system they counted that as a covid death are just some more examples.  

    Also PJ take those ridiculous mask's that are for sale off the store in the misc. section. Enough already. They are f-ing cloth mask's and do more harm than good. 

    https://ratical.org/PandemicParallaxView/index.html#JMMA
    Exactly!!..car accideent, heart attack, canser, whatever you died, if you had covid they list you as covid victim..pathetic..
    the fairy tale of ''millions died''..
    uh huh

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7539724/


    yikes?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/world/fact-check-94-of-individuals-with-additional-causes-of-death-still-had-covid-1-idUSKBN25U2I4/



  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,889
    Its really amazing that certain people have figured out the truth about covid and yet aren't running any organizations who oversee guidance.

  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,305
    Its really amazing that certain people have figured out the truth about covid and yet aren't running any organizations who oversee guidance.

    This seems to happen in so many sectors of life these days... an institution is mistrusted, and as a result, anything but that institution is given a credibility boost. It's such fallacious logic... I can't trust A, so therefore I can trust B because it's not A.
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