Viruses / Vaccines 2

mickeyrat

AW124797 said:

curmudgeoness said:

....But shit like cigarette smoke and Covid droplets enter my nose and make me sick, and I take issue with that. You do not have the right to make me or anyone else sick. I view availing oneself of vaccinations as a basic civil duty. Why can/should we not argue that anti-vaxxers should be isolated, instead? Seriously -- if you're determined to be an unrepentant plague vector, why should the rest of society be expected to accommodate you?

Great point, but wouldn’t it be easier for anybody with severe nosophobia to go back to double masking and staying in the basement? 

curious what was there before the edit.

23scidoo

Tim Simmons said:

25 seconds in and that all the facts I need. thanks for posting!

More facts..you're welcome!!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1926171694776865008

https://twitter.com/i/status/1925992341266968714

Tim Simmons

Nah. not as interesting. Too much Upper case, exclamations and conspiracy.

Tim Simmons

Big Pharma gets the stick for making things too expensive already, so why increase costs and expose people to risk for a placebo. The regulatory process already takes too long. Speed things up. Decrease costs.

Tim Simmons

Weirdos: THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS!

Scientists: They then proceed to tell you it and put it on the record. 

Tim Simmons

My personal take is, let the scientists do their thing. If you aren't a scientist, stfu. 

HughFreakingDillon

love how these dolts don't understand the difference between correlation and causation. 

Chronic illness in children has exploded from 13% to over 50% since 1986
The number of shots? From 3 in 1986 to 29 by age one — plus in utero doses

MAYBE LOOK AT THE CHEMICALS IN OUR FOOD AND THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR ENVIRONMENT BY COMPANIES WHO PROMOTE PROFIT OVER HEALTH REGULATION

Tim Simmons

Its sedentary lifestyles, ultra processed foods and poor dietary choices and environmental impact. Also don’t discount we have the largest generation in 100 years aging and they grew up with smoking and have lead brains. 

But sure it’s the shots and the stuff in it you didn’t know because you aren’t a scientist. 

mrussel1

Tim Simmons said:

Its sedentary lifestyles, ultra processed foods and poor dietary choices and environmental impact. Also don’t discount we have the largest generation in 100 years aging and they grew up with smoking and have lead brains. 

But sure it’s the shots and the stuff in it you didn’t know because you aren’t a scientist. 

I also think people are a bunch of babies and claim every little ache or pain as a chronic illness. 

Maybe it’s because of their sedentary lifestyle (aka being a fat fuck). 

23scidoo

Tim Simmons said:

Nah. not as interesting. Too much Upper case, exclamations and conspiracy.

You dont like the stats??..you dont like the scientists??..
oh, got it..

bootlegger10

Tim Simmons said:

My personal take is, let the scientists do their thing. If you aren't a scientist, stfu. 

I tend to agree with this statement, but scientists are people, and people are corruptible.  Scientists give me better odds though.  That said, while I eat McDonalds and thus am a hypocrite, I'm not going to take a shot or a pill unless it is critical to my health.  

23scidoo

HughFreakingDillon said:

love how these dolts don't understand the difference between correlation and causation. 

Chronic illness in children has exploded from 13% to over 50% since 1986
The number of shots? From 3 in 1986 to 29 by age one — plus in utero doses

MAYBE LOOK AT THE CHEMICALS IN OUR FOOD AND THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR ENVIRONMENT BY COMPANIES WHO PROMOTE PROFIT OVER HEALTH REGULATION

They should call you in the congress..what they know those idiots..

HughFreakingDillon

bootlegger10 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My personal take is, let the scientists do their thing. If you aren't a scientist, stfu. 

I tend to agree with this statement, but scientists are people, and people are corruptible.  Scientists give me better odds though.  That said, while I eat McDonalds and thus am a hypocrite, I'm not going to take a shot or a pill unless it is critical to my health.  

I just can’t buy the fact that 99.9% of the world’s scientists/experts/etc were all bought and/or stupid and/or sheep. But the minuscule few are the ones to trust. 

mrussel1

bootlegger10 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My personal take is, let the scientists do their thing. If you aren't a scientist, stfu. 

I tend to agree with this statement, but scientists are people, and people are corruptible.  Scientists give me better odds though.  That said, while I eat McDonalds and thus am a hypocrite, I'm not going to take a shot or a pill unless it is critical to my health.  

So when the unit doesn't work as well as it used to, you'll just retire from that activity?

HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My personal take is, let the scientists do their thing. If you aren't a scientist, stfu. 

I tend to agree with this statement, but scientists are people, and people are corruptible.  Scientists give me better odds though.  That said, while I eat McDonalds and thus am a hypocrite, I'm not going to take a shot or a pill unless it is critical to my health.  

So when the unit doesn't work as well as it used to, you'll just retire from that activity?

Haha 

take the blue pill, Neo!
-Trinity

bootlegger10

HughFreakingDillon said:

bootlegger10 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My personal take is, let the scientists do their thing. If you aren't a scientist, stfu. 

I tend to agree with this statement, but scientists are people, and people are corruptible.  Scientists give me better odds though.  That said, while I eat McDonalds and thus am a hypocrite, I'm not going to take a shot or a pill unless it is critical to my health.  

I just can’t buy the fact that 99.9% of the world’s scientists/experts/etc were all bought and/or stupid and/or sheep. But the minuscule few are the ones to trust. 

Many advanced nations treated COVID vaccines differently.  The U.S. recommended vaccines for kids while other nations did not (Norway for example).  So are we trust US scientists?  Norwegian scientists?  The answer I think is to make a reasonable decision yourself.  For me, if my kid had a very low chance of being sick from Covid, I am not going to vaccinate.   Measles?  Polio?  Hell yeah I would vaccinate as those things are very likely to do harm.  

Wasn’t J&J’s vaccine pulled as unsafe?  

The FDA allows all sorts of harmful stuff to be included in our food in the U.S.  Europe has banned many of these substances.  Why?  Lobbyists in the US is my thought.  Money and power can corrupt anyone.

bootlegger10

mrussel1 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My personal take is, let the scientists do their thing. If you aren't a scientist, stfu. 

I tend to agree with this statement, but scientists are people, and people are corruptible.  Scientists give me better odds though.  That said, while I eat McDonalds and thus am a hypocrite, I'm not going to take a shot or a pill unless it is critical to my health.  

So when the unit doesn't work as well as it used to, you'll just retire from that activity?

Haha.  I eat McDonalds because it tastes good despite the harmful effects.  The blue pill provides a welcome effect.  Both examples have pros and cons.  Unless I think I would get really sick from Covid (I don’t), the vaccine doesn’t give me a big benefit.

static111

bootlegger10 said:

mrussel1 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My personal take is, let the scientists do their thing. If you aren't a scientist, stfu. 

I tend to agree with this statement, but scientists are people, and people are corruptible.  Scientists give me better odds though.  That said, while I eat McDonalds and thus am a hypocrite, I'm not going to take a shot or a pill unless it is critical to my health.  

So when the unit doesn't work as well as it used to, you'll just retire from that activity?

Haha.  I eat McDonalds because it tastes good despite the harmful effects.  The blue pill provides a welcome effect.  Both examples have pros and cons.  Unless I think I would get really sick from Covid (I don’t), the vaccine doesn’t give me a big benefit.

What happened to your taste buds you poor poor soul.

HughFreakingDillon

bootlegger10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

bootlegger10 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My personal take is, let the scientists do their thing. If you aren't a scientist, stfu. 

I tend to agree with this statement, but scientists are people, and people are corruptible.  Scientists give me better odds though.  That said, while I eat McDonalds and thus am a hypocrite, I'm not going to take a shot or a pill unless it is critical to my health.  

I just can’t buy the fact that 99.9% of the world’s scientists/experts/etc were all bought and/or stupid and/or sheep. But the minuscule few are the ones to trust. 

Many advanced nations treated COVID vaccines differently.  The U.S. recommended vaccines for kids while other nations did not (Norway for example).  So are we trust US scientists?  Norwegian scientists?  The answer I think is to make a reasonable decision yourself.  For me, if my kid had a very low chance of being sick from Covid, I am not going to vaccinate.   Measles?  Polio?  Hell yeah I would vaccinate as those things are very likely to do harm.  

Wasn’t J&J’s vaccine pulled as unsafe?  

The FDA allows all sorts of harmful stuff to be included in our food in the U.S.  Europe has banned many of these substances.  Why?  Lobbyists in the US is my thought.  Money and power can corrupt anyone.

Absolutely agree. We made the decision to vaccinate as one of our daughters is compromised. And I have a co-morbidity. 

Now that covid has evolved to basically the common cold, I don’t bother with the boosters. I’ve had covid twice to my knowledge and one of those times it was so mild I was shocked I tested positive. 

And yeah, seriously fuck the FDA. 

jwhjr17

static111 said:

bootlegger10 said:

mrussel1 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Tim Simmons said:

My personal take is, let the scientists do their thing. If you aren't a scientist, stfu. 

I tend to agree with this statement, but scientists are people, and people are corruptible.  Scientists give me better odds though.  That said, while I eat McDonalds and thus am a hypocrite, I'm not going to take a shot or a pill unless it is critical to my health.  

So when the unit doesn't work as well as it used to, you'll just retire from that activity?

Haha.  I eat McDonalds because it tastes good despite the harmful effects.  The blue pill provides a welcome effect.  Both examples have pros and cons.  Unless I think I would get really sick from Covid (I don’t), the vaccine doesn’t give me a big benefit.

What happened to your taste buds you poor poor soul.

Covid killed mine, sense of smell too.  Nothing tastes the same anymore.  Can't smell weed or cigarettes anymore which is a blessing  For the record I got the first few jabs and boosters, but haven't had any in 3+ years.