Percentage of Canadians whose vote was impacted by their negative feelings towards Trump? Certainly not zero. Don't say Trump doesn't have coattails...he very well have delivered that victory yesterday.
Trump was a factor well before the 51st state stuff. I said it years ago, months ago, weeks ago..... if a Canadian Conservative Party wants to run Canada... they need to do everything in their power to avoid comparisons to the populist tactics that Trump uses daily. They did not. They lost.
Exactly. Additionally, Poilievre is an elitist who acts like he's holier than thou. Good on Bruce Fanjoy to unseat him in his Carleton riding. We haven't had any door visits from a provincial or federal candidate in eight years and we live 30 minutes from downtown Toronto. Part of Fanjoy's success story is that he apparently spent significant time the past two years going door-to-door asking for people's support. That's all it took.
One of my good friends is in Pierre's riding... a few days before the election I asked what the scene is like there. In the 7 or 8 days leading up to the election, he had NINE people at his door campaigning. 5 for Pierre, 4 for Bruce.
My only thought was 'that must have been crazy annoying' lol
Nine campaigners over less than a week would be annoying. Apparently, it was too late for Pierre's bid to view Fanjoy as a viable competitor. C'est la vie
Well... about 15 minutes in, Carney's press conference sounds pretty good to me. I'm a skeptical person though.. I hope he and his government are held to account and they deliver what he's saying. But what he's laying out seems quite good.
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I'll say this about Carney's speech and conference. Personally.. it's music to my ears but any and all Canadians should of course make sure that this man keeps his word. However.... that said.... but...... and here's the thing.... based on what he's saying.... he has made it clear that his goals are quite honestly that of the Conservative governments goals. He addressed Polievre's complaints... without making it seem like the fucking sky was falling.
Axe the Tax. Stop the Crime. Build the Homes.
He has now set out measurable goals to push this country of ours forward... and my challenge now to Conservatives is this: Give this man a chance. If he, as the PM is more than willing to govern along the same lines as a Conservative platform then what on earth could you possibly have to complain about? There was no virtue signalling of any kind. He addressed failures of the last government. He has agreed to slash the shit out of government wasteful spending. LFG.
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It really feels like he's the right person for the moment.
Fingers crossed.
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Thank you, all of the above, for some good education. I'm glad to know that at least your right wing is not as authoritarian, oligarchical, tyrannical, or as kakistocracy oriented as ours currently is. I could live so much more peacefully with what you all have than what we have these days.
I'll say this about Carney's speech and conference. Personally.. it's music to my ears but any and all Canadians should of course make sure that this man keeps his word. However.... that said.... but...... and here's the thing.... based on what he's saying.... he has made it clear that his goals are quite honestly that of the Conservative governments goals. He addressed Polievre's complaints... without making it seem like the fucking sky was falling.
Axe the Tax. Stop the Crime. Build the Homes.
He has now set out measurable goals to push this country of ours forward... and my challenge now to Conservatives is this: Give this man a chance. If he, as the PM is more than willing to govern along the same lines as a Conservative platform then what on earth could you possibly have to complain about? There was no virtue signalling of any kind. He addressed failures of the last government. He has agreed to slash the shit out of government wasteful spending. LFG.
how many times did he say he will take care of things very quickly, and how he has been treated very unfairly?
that is pretty much all we hear from leadership here in the us.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I'll say this about Carney's speech and conference. Personally.. it's music to my ears but any and all Canadians should of course make sure that this man keeps his word. However.... that said.... but...... and here's the thing.... based on what he's saying.... he has made it clear that his goals are quite honestly that of the Conservative governments goals. He addressed Polievre's complaints... without making it seem like the fucking sky was falling.
Axe the Tax. Stop the Crime. Build the Homes.
He has now set out measurable goals to push this country of ours forward... and my challenge now to Conservatives is this: Give this man a chance. If he, as the PM is more than willing to govern along the same lines as a Conservative platform then what on earth could you possibly have to complain about? There was no virtue signalling of any kind. He addressed failures of the last government. He has agreed to slash the shit out of government wasteful spending. LFG.
how many times did he say he will take care of things very quickly, and how he has been treated very unfairly?
that is pretty much all we hear from leadership here in the us.
No disrespect intended... you don't have leadership in America... you have a man who I'm not sure passes as a basic, normal human being running / ruining the most powerful country in the world.
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just watched it. a whole lot of ambition there. I do like he had a few specific target dates instead of "we will". And I liked the mesh of liberal and conservative wants. In the middle exactly where a PM should be.
I'm optimistic.
"every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"
I'll say this about Carney's speech and conference. Personally.. it's music to my ears but any and all Canadians should of course make sure that this man keeps his word. However.... that said.... but...... and here's the thing.... based on what he's saying.... he has made it clear that his goals are quite honestly that of the Conservative governments goals. He addressed Polievre's complaints... without making it seem like the fucking sky was falling.
Axe the Tax. Stop the Crime. Build the Homes.
He has now set out measurable goals to push this country of ours forward... and my challenge now to Conservatives is this: Give this man a chance. If he, as the PM is more than willing to govern along the same lines as a Conservative platform then what on earth could you possibly have to complain about? There was no virtue signalling of any kind. He addressed failures of the last government. He has agreed to slash the shit out of government wasteful spending. LFG.
how many times did he say he will take care of things very quickly, and how he has been treated very unfairly?
that is pretty much all we hear from leadership here in the us.
No disrespect intended... you don't have leadership in America... you have a man who I'm not sure passes as a basic, normal human being running / ruining the most powerful country in the world.
trust me. i am aware.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
just watched it. a whole lot of ambition there. I do like he had a few specific target dates instead of "we will". And I liked the mesh of liberal and conservative wants. In the middle exactly where a PM should be.
I'm optimistic.
the targets thing is key for me. It's a good way to measure whether or not he can meet these ambitions.
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So what does everyone think about these idiots in Alberta calling for separation? I guess I don't have to say anymore about what i think about them, lol.
I understand they have opinions about how the oil industry in Alberta is handled, but Holy fuck, talk about an extreme reaction. A bunch of them are even pro-51st state. And they so much thought that the Cinservatives would have made such a difference that they are now in full hysterics over the loss. The realities of a separated Alberta equate to such a laughably terrible situation for the province, I struggle to think that any of these people are really fully capable of rational thought.
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I feel like they're extremists. I lived in Alberta for 5 years and I have a hard time believing the majority of people in the cities would want to separate. We have out version of MAGA in Canada, but I tend to think they're smaller.
I also wonder if they think about the logistics. Like the Federal Government forced that new Transmountain Pipeline through BC, and we pretty much take the risk if there's an ocean based spill from exporting the oil. We get almost nothing for allowing that Oil to flow, and export via our coast. If they were a different country, they'd be landlocked, and we could probably charge a fee for all that oil that exports.
Also maybe play ball for a bit to see if the new government plans to create new export capacity, and figure out how to get Canadian oil to the East coast for domestic use?
So what does everyone think about these idiots in Alberta calling for separation? I guess I don't have to say anymore about what i think about them, lol.
I understand they have opinions about how the oil industry in Alberta is handled, but Holy fuck, talk about an extreme reaction. A bunch of them are even pro-51st state. And they so much thought that the Cinservatives would have made such a difference that they are now in full hysterics over the loss. The realities of a separated Alberta equate to such a laughably terrible situation for the province, I struggle to think that any of these people are really fully capable of rational thought.
anyone who thinks isolationism will make them stronger is a moron. The hatred for all things liberal in Alberta is strong. I have in law family in the oil patch and ho-leee-fuck did they hate JT. Even in the beginning. Before any scandals or buffoonery. Just straight up wishing him dead.
Rich blue collars. That's all I'm going to say.
"every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"
Me too. I can't believe there are so many idiots in Alberta.
I'm bummed to hear about all of this business with Alberta. But then, I'm desperate to want places other than here to not be like us down here. Hugely desperate for that.
Think I'll go out to Alberta Weather's good there in the fall I got some friends that I could go to working for Still I wish you'd change your mind If I ask you one more time But we've been through this a hundred times or more
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Are the Americans helping the Canadian teams win in the playoffs, are they ass hats too? White Americans as well… I wonder what party they and their families usually support… Just saying, hoping for peace with our polite neighbors.
Are the Americans helping the Canadian teams win in the playoffs, are they ass hats too? White Americans as well… I wonder what party they and their families usually support… Just saying, hoping for peace with our polite neighbors.
In all my days living here I've never met anyone who wants to seperate from Canada. I know they exist, but I haven't encountered it.
And I just want to highlight that we were only about (if I remember correctly) 1300 votes away from having an NDP provincial government here last election. We are a deeply divided province.
Also, I'm embarrassed by my Premier. She didn't campaign on most of the shit she's pulling now.
Are the Americans helping the Canadian teams win in the playoffs, are they ass hats too? White Americans as well… I wonder what party they and their families usually support… Just saying, hoping for peace with our polite neighbors.
What a weird comment.
Totally out of left field. Par for the course. What does this have to do with hockey? I for one was against the booing of the US anthem- it’s logically pretty stupid, given how many Americans are on the tram you cheer for. But whatever. Dividers gotta divide.
"every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"
Are the Americans helping the Canadian teams win in the playoffs, are they ass hats too? White Americans as well… I wonder what party they and their families usually support… Just saying, hoping for peace with our polite neighbors.
What a weird comment.
Totally.
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Axe the Tax. Stop the Crime. Build the Homes.
He has now set out measurable goals to push this country of ours forward... and my challenge now to Conservatives is this: Give this man a chance. If he, as the PM is more than willing to govern along the same lines as a Conservative platform then what on earth could you possibly have to complain about? There was no virtue signalling of any kind. He addressed failures of the last government. He has agreed to slash the shit out of government wasteful spending. LFG.
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Fingers crossed.
that is pretty much all we hear from leadership here in the us.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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I'm optimistic.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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Rich blue collars. That's all I'm going to say.
Rally attendee Susan Westernaier said she believed everything would be better if Alberta separated.
"We have the oil, we have the resources. We're fine," Westernaier said, noting she believed Monday's election was rigged.
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I'm bummed to hear about all of this business with Alberta. But then, I'm desperate to want places other than here to not be like us down here. Hugely desperate for that.
Weather's good there in the fall
I got some friends that I could go to working for
Still I wish you'd change your mind
If I ask you one more time
But we've been through this a hundred times or more
In all my days living here I've never met anyone who wants to seperate from Canada. I know they exist, but I haven't encountered it.
And I just want to highlight that we were only about (if I remember correctly) 1300 votes away from having an NDP provincial government here last election. We are a deeply divided province.
Also, I'm embarrassed by my Premier. She didn't campaign on most of the shit she's pulling now.
Totally.
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