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DarthMaeglin · February 14

Halifax2TheMax said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

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mickeyrat said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Waitasec, how is this quote from the column not a specific to be discussed?

”Holocaust exceptionalism is what this report seems to recommend,” was one of them smears lobbed out. Another was a claim that the report is “criminalizing opposition to Zionism” and “prioritizing the comfort of Jewish people over the actual safety of Palestinians.”

Again, several Jewish schools have been shot at and vandalized. That’s not a matter of comfort.

so criticism of the report is antisemitic? this was targeting specific people, individuals or a group from a synagogue?

I never said that, but I guess the reporting that was done by an established journalist is considered fake news here.

Supported by statements from multiple elected officials who were present at the meeting.

A tabloid without the benefit of the minutes of what was actually said. Awful lot of speculation about what the speakers said and what it must have meant, i.e being critical of Zionists means you lust for the destruction of Israel. I assume you’re aware of the Israeli government’s well funded publicity machine that tries to shut down any criticism of Israel in any and all forums, from college campuses, public demonstrations, public hearings, etc. You know that, right? I’m sure you also know that Islamophobia hate attacks in Canada are way up too and nary a word on these very forums. The 8th anniversary of the Quebec City mosque attack was just a couple of weeks ago. Remember that?

Edited to add that one would need to read the report that was being commented on and reject the spin that being told to just pass it as is or otherwise you’re antisemitic. That’s not how democracy works.

When a “tabloid” is the only source reporting on it that’s all we can go on. If the reporter has invented the quotes used then they should suffer consequences. But the quotes are supported by several elected officials.

Criticizing Israel isn’t inherently antisemetic, but ONLY criticizing Israel can very easily be interpreted as such. Just like criticizing Hamas isn’t Islamophobic, but only criticizing Hamas could be seen (and is stated here) as Islamophobic.

But a tabloid isn’t the only source reporting on it. There are multitudes of better reporting that offer a bigger and more informed picture. I’m still looking for the actual report so if you find a link, please share. I do have a better understanding of what the report is and how and why it was issued but I didn’t get any of that from the link you shared.

Asking you point blank: is it acceptable for a school board meeting to turn into a hatefest, no matter the target?

“Hatefest?” I’m not convinced that’s what it turned into based upon one tabloid’s description of the events and in the absence of a transcript of what was said and the report being debated. The article you linked had a lot of supposition and assumptions in it. I need more context before I’d call it a “hatefest.” Was Nazi regalia worn? Did participants shout, “kill the Jews?” Who determines it’s a “hatefest?” But in general terms, no, a school board meeting shouldn’t become a “hatefest”, whatever the definition of one is (a KKK march or those whack jobs that protest military funerals because of gays, those are “hatefests” to me).

I shouldn’t have been foolish and asked a simple yes or no question.

“Hatefest” is extreme in the context of this discussion and the purported events as reported by a tabloid news source. Sorry not sorry I don’t subscribe to tabloid journalism.

So you would respond the same way if it was anti-Palestinian statements being made?

I intentionally made it a general question tied to no ethnicity.

Halifax2TheMax · February 14

DarthMaeglin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

DarthMaeglin said:

mickeyrat said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Waitasec, how is this quote from the column not a specific to be discussed?

”Holocaust exceptionalism is what this report seems to recommend,” was one of them smears lobbed out. Another was a claim that the report is “criminalizing opposition to Zionism” and “prioritizing the comfort of Jewish people over the actual safety of Palestinians.”

Again, several Jewish schools have been shot at and vandalized. That’s not a matter of comfort.

so criticism of the report is antisemitic? this was targeting specific people, individuals or a group from a synagogue?

I never said that, but I guess the reporting that was done by an established journalist is considered fake news here.

Supported by statements from multiple elected officials who were present at the meeting.

A tabloid without the benefit of the minutes of what was actually said. Awful lot of speculation about what the speakers said and what it must have meant, i.e being critical of Zionists means you lust for the destruction of Israel. I assume you’re aware of the Israeli government’s well funded publicity machine that tries to shut down any criticism of Israel in any and all forums, from college campuses, public demonstrations, public hearings, etc. You know that, right? I’m sure you also know that Islamophobia hate attacks in Canada are way up too and nary a word on these very forums. The 8th anniversary of the Quebec City mosque attack was just a couple of weeks ago. Remember that?

Edited to add that one would need to read the report that was being commented on and reject the spin that being told to just pass it as is or otherwise you’re antisemitic. That’s not how democracy works.

When a “tabloid” is the only source reporting on it that’s all we can go on. If the reporter has invented the quotes used then they should suffer consequences. But the quotes are supported by several elected officials.

Criticizing Israel isn’t inherently antisemetic, but ONLY criticizing Israel can very easily be interpreted as such. Just like criticizing Hamas isn’t Islamophobic, but only criticizing Hamas could be seen (and is stated here) as Islamophobic.

But a tabloid isn’t the only source reporting on it. There are multitudes of better reporting that offer a bigger and more informed picture. I’m still looking for the actual report so if you find a link, please share. I do have a better understanding of what the report is and how and why it was issued but I didn’t get any of that from the link you shared.

Asking you point blank: is it acceptable for a school board meeting to turn into a hatefest, no matter the target?

“Hatefest?” I’m not convinced that’s what it turned into based upon one tabloid’s description of the events and in the absence of a transcript of what was said and the report being debated. The article you linked had a lot of supposition and assumptions in it. I need more context before I’d call it a “hatefest.” Was Nazi regalia worn? Did participants shout, “kill the Jews?” Who determines it’s a “hatefest?” But in general terms, no, a school board meeting shouldn’t become a “hatefest”, whatever the definition of one is (a KKK march or those whack jobs that protest military funerals because of gays, those are “hatefests” to me).

I shouldn’t have been foolish and asked a simple yes or no question.

“Hatefest” is extreme in the context of this discussion and the purported events as reported by a tabloid news source. Sorry not sorry I don’t subscribe to tabloid journalism.

So you would respond the same way if it was anti-Palestinian statements being made?

I intentionally made it a general question tied to no ethnicity.

I would want transcripts of what was said and who and what was reported to come from a source other than a pro-Hamas advocate. And I answered your question with a “no” but it was too much to ask you to read through my full thoughts on the issue. Not everything is black and white or yes and no.

DarthMaeglin · February 14

Halifax2TheMax said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

DarthMaeglin said:

mickeyrat said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Waitasec, how is this quote from the column not a specific to be discussed?

”Holocaust exceptionalism is what this report seems to recommend,” was one of them smears lobbed out. Another was a claim that the report is “criminalizing opposition to Zionism” and “prioritizing the comfort of Jewish people over the actual safety of Palestinians.”

Again, several Jewish schools have been shot at and vandalized. That’s not a matter of comfort.

so criticism of the report is antisemitic? this was targeting specific people, individuals or a group from a synagogue?

I never said that, but I guess the reporting that was done by an established journalist is considered fake news here.

Supported by statements from multiple elected officials who were present at the meeting.

A tabloid without the benefit of the minutes of what was actually said. Awful lot of speculation about what the speakers said and what it must have meant, i.e being critical of Zionists means you lust for the destruction of Israel. I assume you’re aware of the Israeli government’s well funded publicity machine that tries to shut down any criticism of Israel in any and all forums, from college campuses, public demonstrations, public hearings, etc. You know that, right? I’m sure you also know that Islamophobia hate attacks in Canada are way up too and nary a word on these very forums. The 8th anniversary of the Quebec City mosque attack was just a couple of weeks ago. Remember that?

Edited to add that one would need to read the report that was being commented on and reject the spin that being told to just pass it as is or otherwise you’re antisemitic. That’s not how democracy works.

When a “tabloid” is the only source reporting on it that’s all we can go on. If the reporter has invented the quotes used then they should suffer consequences. But the quotes are supported by several elected officials.

Criticizing Israel isn’t inherently antisemetic, but ONLY criticizing Israel can very easily be interpreted as such. Just like criticizing Hamas isn’t Islamophobic, but only criticizing Hamas could be seen (and is stated here) as Islamophobic.

But a tabloid isn’t the only source reporting on it. There are multitudes of better reporting that offer a bigger and more informed picture. I’m still looking for the actual report so if you find a link, please share. I do have a better understanding of what the report is and how and why it was issued but I didn’t get any of that from the link you shared.

Asking you point blank: is it acceptable for a school board meeting to turn into a hatefest, no matter the target?

“Hatefest?” I’m not convinced that’s what it turned into based upon one tabloid’s description of the events and in the absence of a transcript of what was said and the report being debated. The article you linked had a lot of supposition and assumptions in it. I need more context before I’d call it a “hatefest.” Was Nazi regalia worn? Did participants shout, “kill the Jews?” Who determines it’s a “hatefest?” But in general terms, no, a school board meeting shouldn’t become a “hatefest”, whatever the definition of one is (a KKK march or those whack jobs that protest military funerals because of gays, those are “hatefests” to me).

I shouldn’t have been foolish and asked a simple yes or no question.

“Hatefest” is extreme in the context of this discussion and the purported events as reported by a tabloid news source. Sorry not sorry I don’t subscribe to tabloid journalism.

So you would respond the same way if it was anti-Palestinian statements being made?

I intentionally made it a general question tied to no ethnicity.

I would want transcripts of what was said and who and what was reported to come from a source other than a pro-Hamas advocate. And I answered your question with a “no” but it was too much to ask you to read through my full thoughts on the issue. Not everything is black and white or yes and no.

I can’t deal with your berating today, enjoy yourself.

Sea · February 14

Please remember to discuss, disagree and debate politely. It's possible to disagree with people without being abusive, and it's a requirement here. Thank you.

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/228366/forum-posting-guidelines#latest

DarthMaeglin · February 14

An update on the TDSP report being accepted. No other commentary from me.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/warmington-tdsb-accepts-report-on-antisemitism-in-schools-but-damage-already-done

Halifax2TheMax · February 15

And back to our regularly scheduled programming:

2024 was the deadliest year for journalists in over three decades. Nearly 70% were killed by Israel, report says

https://www.cnn.com/world/2024-deadliest-year-journalists-israel-cpj-intl/index.html

Halifax2TheMax · February 15

I wonder how this is playing in Israel? Are they ready for a new influx of 21st century refugees? Who will pay the price if and when it happens? Oh yea, right, nevermind. But maybe Jared Dear Boy and his Saudi $2B will come to the rescue?

Scholz blasts Vance’s support for Germany’s far right

Some see the Trump administration actively promoting political extremism in the West.

BERLIN — German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Saturday blasted Vice President JD Vance for his support of the far right in the country that gave rise to Adolf Hitler, accusing the American vice president of interfering in domestic affairs less than 10 days before national elections.

Vance’s denunciation of efforts by the German establishment to keep the far right out of power sparked a wave of condemnation from senior officials and pundits, some of whom saw a U.S. administration actively promoting political extremism in the West.

Vance on Friday used a major security conference in Munich to criticize the country’s political “fire wall” — the post-World War II agreement by mainstream parties to block the far right from being part of any government. Vance punctuated his point by later meeting with Alice Weidel, the co-leader of the anti-migrant Alternative for Germany party, or AfD, which is polling in second place. The AfD denies being a far-right party but is classified by German intelligence as a suspected extremist group. One of the party’s most polemic figures has been convicted and fined for using a banned Nazi slogan.

Vance’s comments appeared to shatter a taboo. On Saturday, Scholz criticized him for visiting the Dachau concentration camp on Thursday only to meet with and voice support for far-right leaders hours later.

In a keynote address, Scholz noted that the United States helped overthrow Nazism. “‘Never again’ is the historical mission that Germany, as a free democracy, must and wants to continue to live up to day after day,” he said. “Never again fascism, never again racism, never again war of aggression.”

“A commitment to ‘never again’ is therefore incompatible with support for the AfD,” Scholz said, to resounding applause. “That is why we will not accept outsiders intervening in our democracy, in our elections and in the democratic formation of opinion on behalf of this party.”

Vance’s moves offered a sobering illustration of the extent to which the Trump administration is willing to directly align with and boost Europe’s hard-right nationalists who have espoused anti-migrant, anti-LGBTQ+ and pro-Russian views.

For Europe and especially Germany, it was a wake-up call. Traditional politicians in Europe now find themselves caught between an unorthodox, mercurial leader in Washington and a belligerent strongman in Moscow. Russian President Vladimir Putin has worked for decades to undermine liberal democracy in Europe. President Donald Trump, meanwhile, has vowed to squeeze European allies through a trade war and sideline them in talks with Putin over the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Continues….,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/02/15/vance-germany-afd-scholz-weidel-far-right/

Halifax2TheMax · February 15

Did Bethlehem attack Israel on 10/07?

16 Palestinians said wounded east of Bethlehem in attack by armed settlers

Some 40 settlers said to beat, spray tear gas and sic dogs on victims, including pregnant woman; IDF says it sent forces to break up violence; no reports of arrests

Sixteen Palestinians were wounded in a settler attack Friday outside the village of Al-Minya, east of Bethlehem, according to the Palestinian Red Crescent.

The Palestinian Authority’s official WAFA news agency cited Al-Minya council chair Zayed Kawazba as saying the settlers wielded sticks, rifle butts, tear gas and pepper spray. The attackers were said to burn two cars, ransack tents, and cause damage to vehicles and solar panels.

The victims suffered fractures and suffocation, and five Palestinians were taken to the hospital, said WAFA. According to Haaretz, the victims included a pregnant woman. Two of the wounded were said to have had dogs sicced on them.

The IDF said it sent troops to the scene, near where settlers have reportedly set up an illegal outpost. Security sources cited by Ynet said about 40 settlers were involved in the attack. There were no reports of arrests, which have been rare in cases of settler violence.

Haaretz cited the IDF as saying all victims sustained light wounds. The newspaper said the military confirmed at least six Palestinians were injured by settlers who broke into their home.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/16-palestinians-said-wounded-east-of-bethlehem-in-attack-by-armed-settlers/

Halifax2TheMax · February 16

Is this kid antisemitic?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFTczy6oJwW/?igsh=MWp1cXZhMnI3MTY0

Lerxst1992 · February 16

DarthMaeglin said:

An update on the TDSP report being accepted. No other commentary from me.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/warmington-tdsb-accepts-report-on-antisemitism-in-schools-but-damage-already-done

No it doesn’t exist. It’s not real. The Toronto School Board is in on it, too. It’s all fake news.

Just wanting the two sides to negotiate peace gets humans to curse me out on this forum, and no action is ever taken as a result.

Yes Netanyahu is an extremist, but what can be expected when its neighbor votes for Hamas and does nothing to stop their authoritarian takeover of their land? And support repeated violent attacks on civilians? At least they can vote. Speak against that, wanting peace, gets you cursed out here. Because I want peace I must support Netanyahu. It’s endless from those who cannot see anything other than continued war.

Worth including part of your link:

“ B’nai Brith Canada director of research and advocacy Richard Robertson, who attended the Wednesday session, is asking Ontario’s Education Ministry to investigate the board’s chair who B’nai Brith feel “completely failed to enforce the TDSB’s own rules around decorum” and “neglected to intervene when speakers invoked antisemitic tropes, demonized Zionists, and trafficked in disinformation.””

HughFreakingDillon · February 16

No one said it didn’t happen. Taken right from the Toronto sun article :

“…political leaders, who were rightfully horrified by this kind of Islamophobic assault – of course they didn’t realize that, once it was investigated by Toronto Police, it was determined to be untrue.

The girl was taken at her word and none of those who side with her can be admonished because they were merely trying to do right by her. No kid should face religious or any discrimination or persecution at school.”.

All that was presented was generalities that we are supposed to just accept, but I don’t anymore because of shit like I posted above. In the absence of details/proof, I reserve judgement until there is.

Would I be quicker to believe without details if this were a situation involving MAGA? Probably. Why? Because I can admit we all have our own biases, just as you are likely to believe anything that reinforces your own victimhood.

Telling someone to “sit this one out” while adding a curse word for affect is not “cursing someone out”. Constantly playing the victim while literally smearing the character/intentionally lying about someone’s position on any given matter of anyone you disagree with is not a good look.

DarthMaeglin · February 16

HughFreakingDillon said:

No one said it didn’t happen. Taken right from the Toronto sun article :

“…political leaders, who were rightfully horrified by this kind of Islamophobic assault – of course they didn’t realize that, once it was investigated by Toronto Police, it was determined to be untrue.
The girl was taken at her word and none of those who side with her can be admonished because they were merely trying to do right by her. No kid should face religious or any discrimination or persecution at school.”.
All that was presented was generalities that we are supposed to just accept, but I don’t anymore because of shit like I posted above. In the absence of details/proof, I reserve judgement until there is.
Would I be quicker to believe without details if this were a situation involving MAGA? Probably. Why? Because I can admit we all have our own biases, just as you are likely to believe anything that reinforces your own victimhood.
Telling someone to “sit this one out” while adding a curse word for affect is not “cursing someone out”. Constantly playing the victim while literally smearing the character/intentionally lying about someone’s position on any given matter of anyone you disagree with is not a good look.

I thought the article contained no details, lol?

DarthMaeglin · February 16

HughFreakingDillon said:

No one said it didn’t happen. Taken right from the Toronto sun article :

“…political leaders, who were rightfully horrified by this kind of Islamophobic assault – of course they didn’t realize that, once it was investigated by Toronto Police, it was determined to be untrue.
The girl was taken at her word and none of those who side with her can be admonished because they were merely trying to do right by her. No kid should face religious or any discrimination or persecution at school.”.
All that was presented was generalities that we are supposed to just accept, but I don’t anymore because of shit like I posted above. In the absence of details/proof, I reserve judgement until there is.
Would I be quicker to believe without details if this were a situation involving MAGA? Probably. Why? Because I can admit we all have our own biases, just as you are likely to believe anything that reinforces your own victimhood.
Telling someone to “sit this one out” while adding a curse word for affect is not “cursing someone out”. Constantly playing the victim while literally smearing the character/intentionally lying about someone’s position on any given matter of anyone you disagree with is not a good look.

I live in Toronto and remember the incident you quoted. It is accurately described here. If you require confirmation it’s on you to seek out the reporting from the time of the incident.

mickeyrat · February 16

Lerxst1992 said:

DarthMaeglin said:

An update on the TDSP report being accepted. No other commentary from me.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/warmington-tdsb-accepts-report-on-antisemitism-in-schools-but-damage-already-done

No it doesn’t exist. It’s not real. The Toronto School Board is in on it, too. It’s all fake news.

Just wanting the two sides to negotiate peace gets humans to curse me out on this forum, and no action is ever taken as a result.

Yes Netanyahu is an extremist, but what can be expected when its neighbor votes for Hamas and does nothing to stop their authoritarian takeover of their land? And support repeated violent attacks on civilians? At least they can vote. Speak against that, wanting peace, gets you cursed out here. Because I want peace I must support Netanyahu. It’s endless from those who cannot see anything other than continued war.

Worth including part of your link:
“ B’nai Brith Canada director of research and advocacy Richard Robertson, who attended the Wednesday session, is asking Ontario’s Education Ministry to investigate the board’s chair who B’nai Brith feel “completely failed to enforce the TDSB’s own rules around decorum” and “neglected to intervene when speakers invoked antisemitic tropes, demonized Zionists, and trafficked in disinformation.””

Do you equate all Palestinians with Hamas?

yes or no.

previous statements leave a strong impression as to the answer. looking for an explicit affirmation or denial.

HughFreakingDillon · February 16

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

No one said it didn’t happen. Taken right from the Toronto sun article :

“…political leaders, who were rightfully horrified by this kind of Islamophobic assault – of course they didn’t realize that, once it was investigated by Toronto Police, it was determined to be untrue.
The girl was taken at her word and none of those who side with her can be admonished because they were merely trying to do right by her. No kid should face religious or any discrimination or persecution at school.”.
All that was presented was generalities that we are supposed to just accept, but I don’t anymore because of shit like I posted above. In the absence of details/proof, I reserve judgement until there is.
Would I be quicker to believe without details if this were a situation involving MAGA? Probably. Why? Because I can admit we all have our own biases, just as you are likely to believe anything that reinforces your own victimhood.
Telling someone to “sit this one out” while adding a curse word for affect is not “cursing someone out”. Constantly playing the victim while literally smearing the character/intentionally lying about someone’s position on any given matter of anyone you disagree with is not a good look.

I thought the article contained no details, lol?

I was obviously talking about the school board meeting when I said that. The details quoted above are from a separate incident, from the same article, but your insatiable thirst for a gotcha moment betrayed you.

HughFreakingDillon · February 16

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

No one said it didn’t happen. Taken right from the Toronto sun article :

“…political leaders, who were rightfully horrified by this kind of Islamophobic assault – of course they didn’t realize that, once it was investigated by Toronto Police, it was determined to be untrue.
The girl was taken at her word and none of those who side with her can be admonished because they were merely trying to do right by her. No kid should face religious or any discrimination or persecution at school.”.
All that was presented was generalities that we are supposed to just accept, but I don’t anymore because of shit like I posted above. In the absence of details/proof, I reserve judgement until there is.
Would I be quicker to believe without details if this were a situation involving MAGA? Probably. Why? Because I can admit we all have our own biases, just as you are likely to believe anything that reinforces your own victimhood.
Telling someone to “sit this one out” while adding a curse word for affect is not “cursing someone out”. Constantly playing the victim while literally smearing the character/intentionally lying about someone’s position on any given matter of anyone you disagree with is not a good look.

I live in Toronto and remember the incident you quoted. It is accurately described here. If you require confirmation it’s on you to seek out the reporting from the time of the incident.

You’re conflating my discussion of two incidents into one.

Edited for less dickery

HughFreakingDillon · February 16

The point I was trying to make with the quoted piece was just offering an example of how we often tend to believe things easier when it bends to our biases.

DarthMaeglin · February 16

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

No one said it didn’t happen. Taken right from the Toronto sun article :

“…political leaders, who were rightfully horrified by this kind of Islamophobic assault – of course they didn’t realize that, once it was investigated by Toronto Police, it was determined to be untrue.
The girl was taken at her word and none of those who side with her can be admonished because they were merely trying to do right by her. No kid should face religious or any discrimination or persecution at school.”.
All that was presented was generalities that we are supposed to just accept, but I don’t anymore because of shit like I posted above. In the absence of details/proof, I reserve judgement until there is.
Would I be quicker to believe without details if this were a situation involving MAGA? Probably. Why? Because I can admit we all have our own biases, just as you are likely to believe anything that reinforces your own victimhood.
Telling someone to “sit this one out” while adding a curse word for affect is not “cursing someone out”. Constantly playing the victim while literally smearing the character/intentionally lying about someone’s position on any given matter of anyone you disagree with is not a good look.

I thought the article contained no details, lol?

I was obviously talking about the school board meeting when I said that. The details quoted above are from a separate incident, from the same article, but your insatiable thirst for a gotcha moment betrayed you.

I’m trying to figure out what the standard is here, maybe I’m confused by your writing. Has nothing to do with a gotcha.

First you’re utterly dismissive of Warmington’s first column then quote the second? Do you accept the account in the second article then? If so, what are your thoughts on the Jewish student quoted in that article? Is it possible the “Islamophobic” incident has made it easier for some to be dismissive of this student’s claims?

DarthMaeglin · February 16

HughFreakingDillon said:

The point I was trying to make with the quoted piece was just offering an example of how we often tend to believe things easier when it bends to our biases.

I won’t dispute that.

HughFreakingDillon · February 17

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2024 was the deadliest year for journalists in over three decades. Nearly 70% were killed by Israel, report says

Scholz blasts Vance’s support for Germany’s far right

16 Palestinians said wounded east of Bethlehem in attack by armed settlers

Some 40 settlers said to beat, spray tear gas and sic dogs on victims, including pregnant woman; IDF says it sent forces to break up violence; no reports of arrests

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