Middle East ......

gotthebottle

Gern Blansten said:

Kind of destroys trump's narrative that he can stop a country from attacking another....in this case the attacker is an ally which is worse

Yep... this will be the new Vietnam.. sad. 

Gern Blansten

yeah Biden should have done something but let it go....even though he said dear Jerod was going to solve the middle east conflicts during his first term...that worked well

PJ_Soul

Trump on the attack by Israel on Iran (from CNN):

“I think ultimately, it would be great for the market because Iran will not have a nuclear weapon. It will be great for the market — should be the greatest thing ever for the market."

Halifax2TheMax

Real peace loving nation. Let’s see, how many territories and countries in the ME has Israel attacked of late? Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Yemen. And who seems to be trying to drag the US into it?

Now, if you’re them or say Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan or Pakistan, what are you thinking and what might you want to do to not be attacked by Israel and/or the US?

Israel trying to persuade US to join in continuing strikes on Iran, sources tell 'Post' - exclusive

The strikes were in 'full coordination" with the US, as Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced shortly after the strikes began, but conducted without US assets or support.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-857615

DE4173

This time-lapse of air traffic over the Middle East shows how civilian airspace cleared after Israel’s operation against Iran began.

https://x.com/bradyafr/status/1933344689417052528?t=WQvKNTzFygxPODHX1AfOiQ&s=19

HughFreakingDillon

gimmesometruth27

Halifax2TheMax said:

Real peace loving nation. Let’s see, how many territories and countries in the ME has Israel attacked of late? Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Yemen. And who seems to be trying to drag the US into it?

Now, if you’re them or say Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan or Pakistan, what are you thinking and what might you want to do to not be attacked by Israel and/or the US?

Israel trying to persuade US to join in continuing strikes on Iran, sources tell 'Post' - exclusive

The strikes were in 'full coordination" with the US, as Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced shortly after the strikes began, but conducted without US assets or support.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-857615

im pretty sure they used some of that 4 billion in equipment that the us gives them every year, so our hands are not clean in this. 

mickeyrat

gimmesometruth27

mickeyrat said:

i guess they will bulldoze the west bank if iran hits back?

diabolical.

Tim Simmons

The anti war president

Tim Simmons

gimmesometruth27 said:

mickeyrat said:

i guess they will bulldoze the west bank if iran hits back?

diabolical

The government was always gonna do that

mickeyrat

mickeyrat said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/reports-israel-imposes-lockdown-west-052629337.html

Halifax2TheMax

Bibi may have overreached. There’s going to be blow back.

Iran has long claimed that it is only pursuing a civilian nuclear energy program and has no ambition to make a nuclear weapon. That might also be a lie, but who would blame them for wanting such a deterrent now? It’s widely understood that North Korea’s nuclear arsenal effectively functions as a deterrent against an American attack, after all.

Israel, which is believed to have about 90 nuclear warheads and enough plutonium for many more, refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), the only country in the region to do so. That refusal has also made the long desired goal of a nuclear-free Middle East impossible.

And anyway, there’s always been something deeply racist about which country is or is not permitted to develop nuclear weapons. In a briefing paper, the Nobel prize-winning International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons states that “racism is ingrained in nuclear weapons history and doctrine”, and that non-western states are regarded “as ‘irrational’, ‘emotional’ and somehow ‘less capable’ of negotiating a Treaty than Western governments”. Let’s remember that the United States is the only country to use a nuclear weapon. Twice. As the briefing paper points out, the US “public widely supported the bombing partly due to anti-Japanese racism, depicting Japanese people in subhuman terms, in some cases fit for extermination”.

Netanyahu needs his external enemies to survive his internal divisions. A day before launching this aggression on Iran, his coalition barely survived a vote to dissolve parliament. (The issue driving the vote was the compulsory military service of ultra-Orthodox men.) As war with Iran has now become a very real possibility, talks about his fragile coalition will recede. This is the same Netanyahu who propped up Hamas for years to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state. This is the same Netanyahu who broke the ceasefire in Gaza in March of this year. This is the same Netanyahu who, in the latest negotiations about a ceasefire in Gaza, reportedly won’t even agree to Hamas relinquishing power in Gaza, so dependent is he on creating and maintaining external enemies for his own survival.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/13/benjamin-netanyahu-war-israel-strikes

josevolution

The word Peace should be abolished when talking about that whole region! 

gimmesometruth27

Halifax2TheMax said:

Bibi may have overreached. There’s going to be blow back.

Iran has long claimed that it is only pursuing a civilian nuclear energy program and has no ambition to make a nuclear weapon. That might also be a lie, but who would blame them for wanting such a deterrent now? It’s widely understood that North Korea’s nuclear arsenal effectively functions as a deterrent against an American attack, after all.

Israel, which is believed to have about 90 nuclear warheads and enough plutonium for many more, refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), the only country in the region to do so. That refusal has also made the long desired goal of a nuclear-free Middle East impossible.

And anyway, there’s always been something deeply racist about which country is or is not permitted to develop nuclear weapons. In a briefing paper, the Nobel prize-winning International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons states that “racism is ingrained in nuclear weapons history and doctrine”, and that non-western states are regarded “as ‘irrational’, ‘emotional’ and somehow ‘less capable’ of negotiating a Treaty than Western governments”. Let’s remember that the United States is the only country to use a nuclear weapon. Twice. As the briefing paper points out, the US “public widely supported the bombing partly due to anti-Japanese racism, depicting Japanese people in subhuman terms, in some cases fit for extermination”.

Netanyahu needs his external enemies to survive his internal divisions. A day before launching this aggression on Iran, his coalition barely survived a vote to dissolve parliament. (The issue driving the vote was the compulsory military service of ultra-Orthodox men.) As war with Iran has now become a very real possibility, talks about his fragile coalition will recede. This is the same Netanyahu who propped up Hamas for years to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state. This is the same Netanyahu who broke the ceasefire in Gaza in March of this year. This is the same Netanyahu who, in the latest negotiations about a ceasefire in Gaza, reportedly won’t even agree to Hamas relinquishing power in Gaza, so dependent is he on creating and maintaining external enemies for his own survival.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/13/benjamin-netanyahu-war-israel-strikes

as long as the us protects him there is not going to be any blowback.

shecky

mickeyrat

shecky said:

feels more than a little bit antisemitic ,  what say you @Lerxst1992?