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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,134
    Won’t click on faux. Bold? Sure. Results? Remain to be seen. Being played? Likely. Corrupt? More than likely.

    I’ll keep the cork in the champagne for now.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,134
    Yeah I don’t think dick measuring tragic events is the way to go here. Bad is bad, and lets make that the threshold 
    But Israel doesn’t do anything bad. Because history.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,558
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,558
    Israel blasts UN aid chief over call to prevent Gaza genocide, UN says 'let us do our work' - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-blasts-un-aid-chief-over-call-prevent-gaza-genocide-2025-05-16/
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    Gaza ceasefire talks resume as Israeli assault kills hundreds in 72 hours - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-strikes-kill-least-58-palestinians-overnight-2025-05-17/
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,416
    Get_Right said:
    Could there be a bigger disconnect? Welp, at least it’s not gas chambers.

    Israeli airstrikes kill at least 80 as Trump says he wants to turn Gaza into a ‘freedom zone’

    Violence over last 48 hours diminishes hopes that US president’s visit to Middle East would lead to pause in hostilities

    Israel launched a new and intense wave of airstrikes and artillery shelling on targets across Gaza on Thursday morning, killing at least 80 people, as faltering talks on a new ceasefire continued in Qatar and Donald Trump said he wanted to see the US “make” the devastated territory “into a freedom zone”.

    Trump’s statement recalled the plan he put forward in February for the US to take control of Gaza to allow for its reconstruction as a luxury leisure and business hub. The scheme implied the possible permanent displacement of much or all of its population of 2.3 million and triggered global outrage.

    In Qatar, on the third day of his Middle East tour, Trump said: “I have concepts for Gaza that I think are very good: make it a freedom zone, let the United States get involved and make it just a freedom zone. I’d be proud to have the United States have it, take it, make it a freedom zone.”

    Basem Naim, a senior Hamas official, rejected the idea, saying: “Gaza is an integral part of Palestinian land – it is not real estate for sale on the open market. We remain firmly committed to our land and our national cause, and we are prepared to make every sacrifice to preserve our homeland and secure our people’s future.”

    There had been widespread hopes that Trump’s regional visit could lead to a new pause in hostilities or a renewal of humanitarian aid to Gaza, where a tight Israeli blockade is now in its third month.

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    80 vs. 6,000,000+. Even 80,000. Not comparable.
    I wonder if the folks who witnessed the beginning of the holocaust said to themselves, “it’s only 80, 800, 8,000 or 52,000 and it’s nothing to be concerned with. There’s plenty around?” I get it, you can’t draw a single comparison.

    Yes that is a correct point but the bigger point is this is a war and both sides are wrong.

    If you wanted to discuss genocide, accounting for World War II is only a tiny fraction of the crimes against the Jewish people.

    As I say often on this forum, there'd be 150 million Jews living in that region right now had there never been victims of genocide and this entire conversation would be moot because there would be no such thing as Palestine.

     that world doesn't exist but we do see every day the results of genocide when we look at the Middle East every single time we look and see one of the oldest cultures this planet has known reduced to a tiny population
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,558

    BREAKING: The Trump administration is working on a plan to permanently relocate up to 1 million Palestinians from the Gaza Strip to Libya, five people with knowledge of the effort told NBC News.

    In exchange for the resettling of Palestinians, the admin. would potentially release to Libya billions of dollars that the U.S. froze more than a decade ago, some of the sources say.

    The plan is has been discussed with Libya’s leadership and no final agreement has been reached.
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,925
    mickeyrat said:

    BREAKING: The Trump administration is working on a plan to permanently relocate up to 1 million Palestinians from the Gaza Strip to Libya, five people with knowledge of the effort told NBC News.

    In exchange for the resettling of Palestinians, the admin. would potentially release to Libya billions of dollars that the U.S. froze more than a decade ago, some of the sources say.

    The plan is has been discussed with Libya’s leadership and no final agreement has been reached.
    I wonder if any Palestinians were brought in on this discussion?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,134
    Are the claims of white Afrikaners genocide legitimate? In the context of the holocaust and the denials of what is happening to the Palestinians? Where the fuck is the condemnation of the claim. Oh yea, right.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,999
    Are the claims of white Afrikaners genocide legitimate? In the context of the holocaust and the denials of what is happening to the Palestinians? Where the fuck is the condemnation of the claim. Oh yea, right.
    Well many people are saying it so it must be true 
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,999
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-hostages-05-20-2025-402954f7424825ef73ad57f17a701facStrikes on Gaza kill at least 60 people, local officials say, as criticism against Israel mounts
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,134
    Great to see some leadership telling Bibi to fuck off. Finally.
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    Palestinians in Gaza protest against Hamas for a second day
    Updated March 26, 20252:07 PM ET
    Heard on Morning Edition

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    Ahmed Abuhamda
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    Children carry signs in Arabic that read, "We refuse to die," during a rally calling for an end to the war, in Beit Lahia, in the northern Gaza Strip, on Wednesday.

    Children carry signs in Arabic that read, "We refuse to die," during a rally calling for an end to the war, in Beit Lahia, in the northern Gaza Strip, on Wednesday.
    AFP/Getty Images

    TEL AVIV, Israel — Something rare and daring is happening in Gaza.

    Large crowds demonstrated against Hamas for a second day Wednesday, the first major protests in Gaza against the Palestinian militant group since the war with Israel began more than a year ago.
    Mohammed Nabil Abu Naser holds a handwritten list of family members killed in an October 2024 Israeli strike in northern Gaza.
    Middle East crisis — explained
    One family. One attack. 132 names. A Gaza investigation

    Eyewitnesses say hundreds swelled to thousands as an anti-war protest in the northern city of Beit Lahia turned into an anti-Hamas protest Tuesday. On Wednesday, thousands more marched down a main street in Beit Lahia.

    "Hamas are terrorists," they chanted, in a video posted online by activists in Gaza. "Out, out, out, Hamas, get out!" NPR spoke to several eyewitnesses who took part in the protests attesting to their veracity.

    The protests come at an inflection point in the war for Hamas and for Palestinian civilians in Gaza, analysts say.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,134
    Seriously, WTF is wrong with Israel? What are they trying to hide or deny? Genocide?

    Foreign diplomats come under Israeli fire on official West Bank visit

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,558
    SHOCKING NEWS: 🚨🚨🚨

    🇮🇱🇪🇺 The Israeli military fired on delegates from Europe.

    The foreign delegation in Jenin, West Bank, included officials from the UK, France, Netherlands, Spain, Norway, Italy and Canada fell into fire by the Israeli army
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,134
    mickeyrat said:
    SHOCKING NEWS: 🚨🚨🚨

    🇮🇱🇪🇺 The Israeli military fired on delegates from Europe.

    The foreign delegation in Jenin, West Bank, included officials from the UK, France, Netherlands, Spain, Norway, Italy and Canada fell into fire by the Israeli army
    Act of war? I mean, they’d never fire on their allies, never mind members of the press or medical services, eh? Oh, the USS Liberty not withstanding.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,134
    23scidoo said:
    Must be an antisemite, amiright?

    Olmert, prime minister from 2006 to 2009, said in an interview with the BBC that the “obvious appearance” of the campaign was that Israel was killing many Palestinians, and that “from every point of view, this is obnoxious and outrageous”. His comments came after the leader of Israel’s center-left Democrats party said his country was becoming a pariah nation that “kills babies as a hobby”.

    Gee, who else killed babies as a hobby?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,558
    Some bread and baby food reaches Gazans as blockade eases, Palestinians call for more - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/some-bread-baby-food-reach-gazans-blockade-eases-palestinians-call-more-2025-05-22/
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    Palestinian minister reports 29 starvation-related deaths among Gazan children, elderly - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-minister-reports-29-starvation-related-deaths-among-gazan-children-2025-05-22/
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  • hunterh75hunterh75 Posts: 88
    So I suppose there's support in this thread for the Pro-Palestinian terrorist that killed 2 Israeli's in DC??   
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 9,102
    no there won't be. FOH
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,710
    hunterh75 said:
    So I suppose there's support in this thread for the Pro-Palestinian terrorist that killed 2 Israeli's in DC??   
    right when you showed up I guess
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,321
    hunterh75 said:
    So I suppose there's support in this thread for the Pro-Palestinian terrorist that killed 2 Israeli's in DC??   
    Good contribution today. Nice one. Should I speculate all the illegal and inhumane things you support based on your political affiliation if that's the game you want to play?
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,999
    mickeyrat said:
    Palestinian minister reports 29 starvation-related deaths among Gazan children, elderly - https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-minister-reports-29-starvation-related-deaths-among-gazan-children-2025-05-22/

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  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,905
    You do not need to be a scholar to understand the ultimate results. Israel will not back down. They are taking that land and expelling Palestinians. So get out or face the Israeli military. Right or wrong, which I do not have an opinion on, that is what is going to happen. Death is preventable in this instance. Just move. The more activist activities that occur and harm Jews, around the world, the harder they will press. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,134
    Get_Right said:
    You do not need to be a scholar to understand the ultimate results. Israel will not back down. They are taking that land and expelling Palestinians. So get out or face the Israeli military. Right or wrong, which I do not have an opinion on, that is what is going to happen. Death is preventable in this instance. Just move. The more activist activities that occur and harm Jews, around the world, the harder they will press. 
    How big is your front and back yard or the park(s) in your town? “Just move.”


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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,498
    hunterh75 said:
    So I suppose there's support in this thread for the Pro-Palestinian terrorist that killed 2 Israeli's in DC??   
    you?
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