The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread

BF25394 · January 30

hihobibo said:

BF25394 said:

ally12 said:

BF25394 said:

ally12 said:

BF25394 said:

on2legs said:

Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.

I saw The Brutalist in the theater. Now that was a good use of an intermission.

I want to see this movie, is it good? I gather from the synopsis it seems to be a hard watch

It is certainly good, but its ambition isn't quite matched by its execution. I think the most impressive thing about it is that it was reportedly made for under $10 million. I was hoping for a There Will Be Blood kind of magnum opus epic experience, but it wasn't on that level. It did not make my top ten of 2024 or merit an Honorable Mention nod. (I had six Honorable Mentions in addition to the top ten.)

With respect specifically to the intermission, though, it was perfectly placed. The two halves of the film were an hour and forty-five minutes and an hour and fifty minutes, separated by a fifteen-minute intermission (with an onscreen clock counting down the time). I've seen some other films where the intermission was oddly placed, with one half running much longer than the other half. This one made sense in terms of time and in terms of where it came in the narrative.

That’s interesting.. last time I saw an intermission in a movie was titanic. I wonder if it’s coming back as I noticed movies are 2 hours or more.

Titanic wasn't supposed to have an intermission, although some theaters inserted one. I wonder where they made the break.

Films used to come in canisters that the projectionist would splice at the theater.

They likely cut it after half the cans for an intermission, if their projector could handle extra spools.

I meant that I wondered where in the film's narrative the break was made, i.e., after which scene.

jdopj · January 30

PrezIntense said:

SandyRavage said:

HailHailVitalogy said:

Billy played 3 nights in a row at Ball Arena and didn’t repeat a single song. The break would make no difference in setlist variety. In fact I think it gives the chance for more varied setlists

So i'm assuming you liked it, yeah? I think I was the one trying to sell you on going in with an open mind in another thread. I think the sheer variety of different songs in his shows is what gets me. I think PJ have played 150+ different songs since 2022, and Billy has played 500+ different songs since that time. Sure, most are covers so its apples to oranges really. While PJ's variety seems to diminish, Billy's has filled that void for me. I still pay to see PJ every year though, in hopes I do eventually get some songs I've been chasing.

As far as a set break, I think it could *maybe* improv the way PJ goes about their sets and offer some new variety with maybe something like an acoustic or all album "set", but the way they do it now: mini break that lasts 2:00-5:00 minutes, including an Eddie rant, then some slow songs into the grand finale is uniquely PJ and has been since at least 1993. The "break" doesn't guarantee how many songs follow it.

Having a timer like Tool does is very theater-esque and reminds me of someone doing a casino tour. The stuff they do these days makes no sense to me. Let me lock my phone up because Maynard is afraid of cameras. okaayyy. Thankfully PJ aren't that pretentious...

not defending Tool or Maynard and yeah super pretentious...but I gotta admit it was kinda nice at the Sessanta Tour having a solid 2 hours of no phones. Then at the end he asked everyone to take them out and record if they wanted to.

The no phone things is awesome

JD87070 · January 30

CantKeepmedown said:

I'd be fine with the no phone policy as well now that my kids are older. But I can see parents of youngsters having a slight issue with it.

Funny story, a few years ago, Jack White was playing here in Portland. I was not there but had friends who were. My son (who was probably 16-17 at the time) was out with his friends. They got pulled over and because the driver didn't have their license for long enough (not allowed to have anyone but family in the car), they all got brought to the station.

The officer started calling all the kids parents. One of my sons' friends parents were at the Jack White show. When the officer called me he asked if I knew so and so's parents. I told him that I did, but they weren't going to respond to a phone call and explained the situation. I vouched for them and luckily he released the kid to me.

Obviously not a big deal as the kids were older. But even parents that have younger kids with baby sitters I can see being a little hesitant to give up their phones for 2-3 hours. Especially if they are not aware of the policy (which I assume is stated on the ticket?)

For Jack White’s shows, you still have your phone on you, it’s just in a bag. So if you feel it vibrate, you can go to a designated area in the lobby where they unlock it for you and you can access it. You just can’t have it open inside the performance area. Also if you have a smart watch, you can still see that you’re getting calls/texts etc as those aren’t locked up.
I’ve seen Jack twice since this policy started (and also Tool twice and Sessanta last year where the same rules applied), and have no problems with the policy whatsoever and enjoy not having to look through people’s phones as they’re holding them above their heads to get terrible videos of every song. I also like to take pictures at shows, (checkout my shots in the Indy thread from the pit last year) but Jack provides higher quality ones than i’d ever be able to get on his website that you can download and Tool/Maynard stands down security for the last song of the night, so the option is still there at the end of the show.

RatherStarved · January 30

A lot of comedy shows have the no phones thing too. For obvious reasons.

maverick · January 30

Funny enough the person in front of me at MSG night 2 last fall was using her phone but not to video the show or take photos. She was online shopping.

In fairness, the song playing on stage was Not For You and it very much was not for her.

BlueLedbetter · January 30

RatherStarved said:

A lot of comedy shows have the no phones thing too. For obvious reasons.

The dark matter listening parties had the phone in a pouch thing. Again for obvious reasons

Lost In Ohio · January 31

Merkin Baller said:

Whatever the reason is for Tool's phone policy, (Maynard's a pretentious bitch or they don't want shitty bootlegs of their shows out there or they want a better experience for the fans with less distractions... ) who cares? it's a net gain that there aren't a f ton of glowing screens being held in the air between the audience and the stage.

Raconteurs had a no phone policy in 2019 and it was fantastic. Heaven forbid people put their phones away and live in the moment.

Is it Tool or another band that allows phones for the last song? I can't remember, but that's a fair compromise.

Another fair compromise might be to ban video recording/filming/streaming from the floor and maybe certain sections in the lower level. Allow people to text their babysitter or whoever they need to remain in contact with, but just ban anything where the phone might be blocking someone else's view.

The problem being: If someone can't make a show, they love the videos and live streams.

Easy solution: Charge a reasonable fee per live stream via the same crews that do the video screens. All 10C members get a code to watch one live stream at no additional cost.

aisleseats · January 31

maverick said:

Funny enough the person in front of me at MSG night 2 last fall was using her phone but not to video the show or take photos. She was online shopping.
In fairness, the song playing on stage was Not For You and it very much was not for her.

I brought my friend to his first PJ show in Nashville 22. He sat down playing video games on his phone the entire show. 🙄

BF25394 · January 31

Largo in L.A. has a strict no-phone policy, and it's awesome. I have seen a lot of big names in comedy and music take chances there because they don't have to worry that a failed joke or a musical experiment is going to end up on YouTube or Facebook.

(Largo patrons seem to universally respect this policy, perhaps because enforcement wouldn't be difficult since it's only 324 seats. I've never seen someone use a phone to take a photo or a video* and I've been to easily a hundred shows there.)

*No one unauthorized, that is. Largo staff will take a few photos and videos, and occasionally an artist will live-stream a show.

Shaindli1 · January 31

Lost In Ohio said:

Easy solution: Charge a reasonable fee per live stream via the same crews that do the video screens. All 10C members get a code to watch one live stream at no additional cost.

I absolutely love the idea!

PrezIntense · January 31

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darwinstheory · January 31

aisleseats said:

maverick said:

Funny enough the person in front of me at MSG night 2 last fall was using her phone but not to video the show or take photos. She was online shopping.
In fairness, the song playing on stage was Not For You and it very much was not for her.

I brought my friend to his first PJ show in Nashville 22. He sat down playing video games on his phone the entire show. 🙄

Oof!

Merkin Baller · January 31

aisleseats said:

maverick said:

Funny enough the person in front of me at MSG night 2 last fall was using her phone but not to video the show or take photos. She was online shopping.
In fairness, the song playing on stage was Not For You and it very much was not for her.

I brought my friend to his first PJ show in Nashville 22. He sat down playing video games on his phone the entire show. 🙄

Going to concerts alone is incredibly underrated.

tylermoore · January 31

aisleseats said:

maverick said:

Funny enough the person in front of me at MSG night 2 last fall was using her phone but not to video the show or take photos. She was online shopping.
In fairness, the song playing on stage was Not For You and it very much was not for her.

I brought my friend to his first PJ show in Nashville 22. He sat down playing video games on his phone the entire show. 🙄

Brought my dad to Fenway 18 because he’s a “fan of music” and had been to a lot of rock shows in his day…..
couldn’t get off his phone because he had a football fantasy draft. I left and went and sat with some buddies. He did not go to Night 2….sorry not sorry dad.

mcgruff10 · January 31

aisleseats said:

maverick said:

Funny enough the person in front of me at MSG night 2 last fall was using her phone but not to video the show or take photos. She was online shopping.
In fairness, the song playing on stage was Not For You and it very much was not for her.

I brought my friend to his first PJ show in Nashville 22. He sat down playing video games on his phone the entire show. 🙄

My bad on that. :(

Jadler · January 31

Need some eastern CAD dates come fall! That would be sweet. Going to catch Jerry Cantrell next week so that will have to fill the void for now.

risris · January 31

Jadler said:

Need some eastern CAD dates come fall! That would be sweet. Going to catch Jerry Cantrell next week so that will have to fill the void for now.

100%. Already going to be in Toronto for Oasis/NIN. Pearl Jam at the same time would be the cherry on top.

primussucks · January 31

Is there reason to believe that there will be more north America dates later this year?

OceanSoul71 · February 1

JD87070 said:

CantKeepmedown said:

I'd be fine with the no phone policy as well now that my kids are older. But I can see parents of youngsters having a slight issue with it.

Funny story, a few years ago, Jack White was playing here in Portland. I was not there but had friends who were. My son (who was probably 16-17 at the time) was out with his friends. They got pulled over and because the driver didn't have their license for long enough (not allowed to have anyone but family in the car), they all got brought to the station.

The officer started calling all the kids parents. One of my sons' friends parents were at the Jack White show. When the officer called me he asked if I knew so and so's parents. I told him that I did, but they weren't going to respond to a phone call and explained the situation. I vouched for them and luckily he released the kid to me.

Obviously not a big deal as the kids were older. But even parents that have younger kids with baby sitters I can see being a little hesitant to give up their phones for 2-3 hours. Especially if they are not aware of the policy (which I assume is stated on the ticket?)

For Jack White’s shows, you still have your phone on you, it’s just in a bag. So if you feel it vibrate, you can go to a designated area in the lobby where they unlock it for you and you can access it. You just can’t have it open inside the performance area. Also if you have a smart watch, you can still see that you’re getting calls/texts etc as those aren’t locked up.
I’ve seen Jack twice since this policy started (and also Tool twice and Sessanta last year where the same rules applied), and have no problems with the policy whatsoever and enjoy not having to look through people’s phones as they’re holding them above their heads to get terrible videos of every song. I also like to take pictures at shows, (checkout my shots in the Indy thread from the pit last year) but Jack provides higher quality ones than i’d ever be able to get on his website that you can download and Tool/Maynard stands down security for the last song of the night, so the option is still there at the end of the show.

Last Jack White gig I saw in Portland in a small venue of 800 people, we were allowed to keep phones and take pix and videos.

JD87070 · February 1

OceanSoul71 said:

JD87070 said:

CantKeepmedown said:

I'd be fine with the no phone policy as well now that my kids are older. But I can see parents of youngsters having a slight issue with it.

Funny story, a few years ago, Jack White was playing here in Portland. I was not there but had friends who were. My son (who was probably 16-17 at the time) was out with his friends. They got pulled over and because the driver didn't have their license for long enough (not allowed to have anyone but family in the car), they all got brought to the station.

The officer started calling all the kids parents. One of my sons' friends parents were at the Jack White show. When the officer called me he asked if I knew so and so's parents. I told him that I did, but they weren't going to respond to a phone call and explained the situation. I vouched for them and luckily he released the kid to me.

Obviously not a big deal as the kids were older. But even parents that have younger kids with baby sitters I can see being a little hesitant to give up their phones for 2-3 hours. Especially if they are not aware of the policy (which I assume is stated on the ticket?)

For Jack White’s shows, you still have your phone on you, it’s just in a bag. So if you feel it vibrate, you can go to a designated area in the lobby where they unlock it for you and you can access it. You just can’t have it open inside the performance area. Also if you have a smart watch, you can still see that you’re getting calls/texts etc as those aren’t locked up.
I’ve seen Jack twice since this policy started (and also Tool twice and Sessanta last year where the same rules applied), and have no problems with the policy whatsoever and enjoy not having to look through people’s phones as they’re holding them above their heads to get terrible videos of every song. I also like to take pictures at shows, (checkout my shots in the Indy thread from the pit last year) but Jack provides higher quality ones than i’d ever be able to get on his website that you can download and Tool/Maynard stands down security for the last song of the night, so the option is still there at the end of the show.

Last Jack White gig I saw in Portland in a small venue of 800 people, we were allowed to keep phones and take pix and videos.

I was wondering if they still did the enforcement at the club gigs last fall. I wasn’t able to make it to any, i am in the pit for him in Detroit in April, wouldn’t complain about keeping my phone accessible!

PrezIntense · February 1

primussucks said:

Is there reason to believe that there will be more north America dates later this year?

no

tylermoore · February 1

PrezIntense said:

primussucks said:

Is there reason to believe that there will be more north America dates later this year?

no

It would be very easy to argue that there is.

There’s just no concrete info right now. I’m planning like this is it tho. I’m content with these shows with this current Dark Matter format

pjl44 · February 1

primussucks said:

Is there reason to believe that there will be more north America dates later this year?

Yes. Anything can happen but there's been just enough smoke where I think it's more likely than not.

Indifference · February 1

N/a

Shaindli1 · February 1

At this point we're operating on a lot of faith - there is no info or very solid rumors - but we want to believe they are not done for the year after May.

hairgrowth2001 · February 1

If their touring pattern continues, they will be playing shows this fall in North America. I expect we would be getting a better feel for it in the next month or so, with an announcement sometime in April.

Merkin Baller · February 1

primussucks said:

Is there reason to believe that there will be more north America dates later this year?

Coinciding with/ the original rumors & leaked info for April & May, there was a rumor about a fall residency somewhere. Idk how likely that is, but I’m reasonably optimistic there will be some more dates later this year. I’ll abandon hope if we don’t hear anything by May.

RatherStarved · February 1

What about South America? Anyone have intel on that?

aisleseats · February 1

RatherStarved said:

What about South America? Anyone have intel on that?

I heard that may be the only thing planned right now.

OceanSoul71 · February 1

Merkin Baller said:

primussucks said:

Is there reason to believe that there will be more north America dates later this year?

Coinciding with/ the original rumors & leaked info for April & May, there was a rumor about a fall residency somewhere. Idk how likely that is, but I’m reasonably optimistic there will be some more dates later this year. I’ll abandon hope if we don’t hear anything by May.

Seattle residency at Climate Pledge Arena would be perfect .. how relaxed would the band be, just jamming in their own city!

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