The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread

aisleseats · January 29

SandyRavage said:

HailHailVitalogy said:

Billy played 3 nights in a row at Ball Arena and didn’t repeat a single song. The break would make no difference in setlist variety. In fact I think it gives the chance for more varied setlists

Having a timer like Tool does is very theater-esque and reminds me of someone doing a casino tour. The stuff they do these days makes no sense to me. Let me lock my phone up because Maynard is afraid of cameras. okaayyy. Thankfully PJ aren't that pretentious...

I mean, some bands you never know how long their encore break is gonna be. They could be gone 30 seconds or they could be gone 10 minutes. At least you know how much time you have left to piss or get a beer.

JD87070 · January 29

Lerxst1992 said:

PrezIntense said:

on2legs said:

PrezIntense said:

The whole concept of an encore is so outdated anyways. Last time I saw Eels they were joking about it -- "So after this song we're going to go take a little break and act like we're done and then you're going to act like you're begging us to come back out and we'll come back and play a few more ok?" (paraphrasing but it was funny)

on2legs said:

Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.

While the intermission is a good excuse to get a beer or go to the bathroom, it's less for you and more for the 60 year old dudes on stage who may also want to go to the bathroom or sit down and get out of the lights for a minute.

They already have a short break at the end of the first set for them to hit the bathroom and grab a drink.

Sure. I think what @HailHailVitalogy was proposing was an earlier, longer break to replace the later, shorter "encore" break -- as a way to prolong the night into two long sets. Lots of bands have done this before but it's primarily in "jam band" type circles. I think it's a cool concept.

Speaking of cool concepts -- I saw the Sessanta concert last year in Raleigh. James Maynard Keenan's 60th birthday party with Primus, Perfect Circle and Puscifer. Not really a fan of any of the bands but the setup was very cool -- all three lines were on the stage at the same time. Primus would play three songs and then go sit on the couch or play ping pong (still on stage) while perfect circle played three, etc. It felt more natural than the traditional "opener(s) then main act" rock concert format -- felt like we were all just hanging out and the bands would take turns doing these little short three song sets.

Would love to see some more creative format tours like that.

Sting did the intertwined show with Peter Gabriel about six years ago that was similar to the Maynard birthday show. No ping pong though, that’s cool.

I almost caught one of the ping pong balls in my beer cup at the Pine Knob Sessanta show! I made eye contact with Tim Alexander and held up my cup and gave him a nod and he nodded in understanding and when the next point started he hit it right to me. Was coming at me, i held my cup up and as it was going in the people in front of me reached up and knocked the cup out of my hand. My son ended up finding the ball on the ground, so he still got to keep it, but would have been cooler if i had caught it in the cup.

HailHailVitalogy · January 29

SandyRavage said:

HailHailVitalogy said:

Billy played 3 nights in a row at Ball Arena and didn’t repeat a single song. The break would make no difference in setlist variety. In fact I think it gives the chance for more varied setlists

So i'm assuming you liked it, yeah? I think I was the one trying to sell you on going in with an open mind in another thread. I think the sheer variety of different songs in his shows is what gets me. I think PJ have played 150+ different songs since 2022, and Billy has played 500+ different songs since that time. Sure, most are covers so its apples to oranges really. While PJ's variety seems to diminish, Billy's has filled that void for me. I still pay to see PJ every year though, in hopes I do eventually get some songs I've been chasing.

As far as a set break, I think it could *maybe* improv the way PJ goes about their sets and offer some new variety with maybe something like an acoustic or all album "set", but the way they do it now: mini break that lasts 2:00-5:00 minutes, including an Eddie rant, then some slow songs into the grand finale is uniquely PJ and has been since at least 1993. The "break" doesn't guarantee how many songs follow it.

Having a timer like Tool does is very theater-esque and reminds me of someone doing a casino tour. The stuff they do these days makes no sense to me. Let me lock my phone up because Maynard is afraid of cameras. okaayyy. Thankfully PJ aren't that pretentious...

@SandyRavage I fucking loved it. I knew maybe 4 songs and had a blast. Probably the best guitar player I’ve ever seen, and the band was otherworldly. The way he slowly builds all the energy is incredible. It doesn’t feel like the energy is building until he breaks it. Turmoil and Tinfoil was one of the best live performances of any song I’ve seen.

ComeToTX · January 29

HailHailVitalogy said:

Billy played 3 nights in a row at Ball Arena and didn’t repeat a single song. The break would make no difference in setlist variety. In fact I think it gives the chance for more varied setlists

I saw Ween do 100 different songs over 3 nights. Pretty magical.

Lerxst1992 · January 29

aisleseats said:

SandyRavage said:

HailHailVitalogy said:

Billy played 3 nights in a row at Ball Arena and didn’t repeat a single song. The break would make no difference in setlist variety. In fact I think it gives the chance for more varied setlists

Having a timer like Tool does is very theater-esque and reminds me of someone doing a casino tour. The stuff they do these days makes no sense to me. Let me lock my phone up because Maynard is afraid of cameras. okaayyy. Thankfully PJ aren't that pretentious...

I mean, some bands you never know how long their encore break is gonna be. They could be gone 30 seconds or they could be gone 10 minutes. At least you know how much time you have left to piss or get a beer.

Yep, Tool is being polite and precise. They are letting their paying customers know that this is a short intermission break. Hard to imagine bands being polite to customers. Unlike some bands that leave you guessing where your seats are at time of purchase.

OceanSoul71 · January 30

Scored NIN tix today for my local arena

BF25394 · January 30

ally12 said:

BF25394 said:

on2legs said:

Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.

I saw The Brutalist in the theater. Now that was a good use of an intermission.

I want to see this movie, is it good? I gather from the synopsis it seems to be a hard watch

It is certainly good, but its ambition isn't quite matched by its execution. I think the most impressive thing about it is that it was reportedly made for under $10 million. I was hoping for a There Will Be Blood kind of magnum opus epic experience, but it wasn't on that level. It did not make my top ten of 2024 or merit an Honorable Mention nod. (I had six Honorable Mentions in addition to the top ten.)

With respect specifically to the intermission, though, it was perfectly placed. The two halves of the film were an hour and forty-five minutes and an hour and fifty minutes, separated by a fifteen-minute intermission (with an onscreen clock counting down the time). I've seen some other films where the intermission was oddly placed, with one half running much longer than the other half. This one made sense in terms of time and in terms of where it came in the narrative.

ally12 · January 30

BF25394 said:

ally12 said:

BF25394 said:

on2legs said:

Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.

I saw The Brutalist in the theater. Now that was a good use of an intermission.

I want to see this movie, is it good? I gather from the synopsis it seems to be a hard watch

It is certainly good, but its ambition isn't quite matched by its execution. I think the most impressive thing about it is that it was reportedly made for under $10 million. I was hoping for a There Will Be Blood kind of magnum opus epic experience, but it wasn't on that level. It did not make my top ten of 2024 or merit an Honorable Mention nod. (I had six Honorable Mentions in addition to the top ten.)

With respect specifically to the intermission, though, it was perfectly placed. The two halves of the film were an hour and forty-five minutes and an hour and fifty minutes, separated by a fifteen-minute intermission (with an onscreen clock counting down the time). I've seen some other films where the intermission was oddly placed, with one half running much longer than the other half. This one made sense in terms of time and in terms of where it came in the narrative.

That’s interesting.. last time I saw an intermission in a movie was titanic. I wonder if it’s coming back as I noticed movies are 2 hours or more.

Lost In Ohio · January 30

BF25394 said:

ally12 said:

BF25394 said:

on2legs said:

Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.

I saw The Brutalist in the theater. Now that was a good use of an intermission.

I want to see this movie, is it good? I gather from the synopsis it seems to be a hard watch

It is certainly good, but its ambition isn't quite matched by its execution. I think the most impressive thing about it is that it was reportedly made for under $10 million. I was hoping for a There Will Be Blood kind of magnum opus epic experience, but it wasn't on that level. It did not make my top ten of 2024 or merit an Honorable Mention nod. (I had six Honorable Mentions in addition to the top ten.)

With respect specifically to the intermission, though, it was perfectly placed. The two halves of the film were an hour and forty-five minutes and an hour and fifty minutes, separated by a fifteen-minute intermission (with an onscreen clock counting down the time). I've seen some other films where the intermission was oddly placed, with one half running much longer than the other half. This one made sense in terms of time and in terms of where it came in the narrative.

The intermission of Monty Python and The Holy Grail comes to mind.

JD87070 · January 30

OceanSoul71 said:

Scored NIN tix today for my local arena

Me too! Coincidentally bought NIN tickets the same day i saw Filter in concert.

BF25394 · January 30

ally12 said:

BF25394 said:

ally12 said:

BF25394 said:

on2legs said:

Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.

I saw The Brutalist in the theater. Now that was a good use of an intermission.

I want to see this movie, is it good? I gather from the synopsis it seems to be a hard watch

It is certainly good, but its ambition isn't quite matched by its execution. I think the most impressive thing about it is that it was reportedly made for under $10 million. I was hoping for a There Will Be Blood kind of magnum opus epic experience, but it wasn't on that level. It did not make my top ten of 2024 or merit an Honorable Mention nod. (I had six Honorable Mentions in addition to the top ten.)

With respect specifically to the intermission, though, it was perfectly placed. The two halves of the film were an hour and forty-five minutes and an hour and fifty minutes, separated by a fifteen-minute intermission (with an onscreen clock counting down the time). I've seen some other films where the intermission was oddly placed, with one half running much longer than the other half. This one made sense in terms of time and in terms of where it came in the narrative.

That’s interesting.. last time I saw an intermission in a movie was titanic. I wonder if it’s coming back as I noticed movies are 2 hours or more.

Titanic wasn't supposed to have an intermission, although some theaters inserted one. I wonder where they made the break.

The first time I remember seeing a film with an intermission was Kenneth Branagh's 1996 adaptation of Hamlet. It was weird, though, because the film played for about two hours and forty-five minutes before the break, and then for about an hour and fifteen minutes after the break, so it was kind of lopsided. (That film was just over four hours because it did not abridge the text at all.) The movie was great regardless.

hihobibo · January 30

BF25394 said:

ally12 said:

BF25394 said:

ally12 said:

BF25394 said:

on2legs said:

Not a fan of the intermission idea. Feels like we’re drifting from a rock concert to a play. I’ve never really had an issue making a quick trip to the bathroom or concession stand in 50+ PJ shows.

I saw The Brutalist in the theater. Now that was a good use of an intermission.

I want to see this movie, is it good? I gather from the synopsis it seems to be a hard watch

It is certainly good, but its ambition isn't quite matched by its execution. I think the most impressive thing about it is that it was reportedly made for under $10 million. I was hoping for a There Will Be Blood kind of magnum opus epic experience, but it wasn't on that level. It did not make my top ten of 2024 or merit an Honorable Mention nod. (I had six Honorable Mentions in addition to the top ten.)

With respect specifically to the intermission, though, it was perfectly placed. The two halves of the film were an hour and forty-five minutes and an hour and fifty minutes, separated by a fifteen-minute intermission (with an onscreen clock counting down the time). I've seen some other films where the intermission was oddly placed, with one half running much longer than the other half. This one made sense in terms of time and in terms of where it came in the narrative.

That’s interesting.. last time I saw an intermission in a movie was titanic. I wonder if it’s coming back as I noticed movies are 2 hours or more.

Titanic wasn't supposed to have an intermission, although some theaters inserted one. I wonder where they made the break.

Films used to come in canisters that the projectionist would splice at the theater.

They likely cut it after half the cans for an intermission, if their projector could handle extra spools.

RatherStarved · January 30

What are we doing here

drfox · January 30

RatherStarved said:

What are we doing here

Things not looking promising to be honest.

Merkin Baller · January 30

Whatever the reason is for Tool's phone policy, (Maynard's a pretentious bitch or they don't want shitty bootlegs of their shows out there or they want a better experience for the fans with less distractions... ) who cares? it's a net gain that there aren't a f ton of glowing screens being held in the air between the audience and the stage.

Raconteurs had a no phone policy in 2019 and it was fantastic. Heaven forbid people put their phones away and live in the moment.

tylermoore · January 30

RatherStarved said:

What are we doing here

Arguing over encores I think?

Tool is cool or Maynard sucks. Who knows.

All definitely relevant to Pearl Jam tour dates in 2025!

Party on! Excellent!

Shaindli1 · January 30

So several of my department's colleagues came out as Pearl Jam fans. I guess it took the crazy one (me) to decorate her office with band memorabilia for them to admit they are into the band as well.
One told us of numerous shows he's been to in the 1990s including Lolapalooza. Another of the amazing Fenway 2018 show.
Why am I posting this here? Because I mentioned sorta rumors about a fall leg and maybe finally a show in Detroit (after all those years away) and they all jumped in and said they'll be in if there's a Detroit show.
(Hear that, PJ? You'll get the entire history department from my institution if you do Detroit!)

pjl44 · January 30

Merkin Baller said:

Whatever the reason is for Tool's phone policy, (Maynard's a pretentious bitch or they don't want shitty bootlegs of their shows out there or they want a better experience for the fans with less distractions... ) who cares? it's a net gain that there aren't a f ton of glowing screens being held in the air between the audience and the stage.

Raconteurs had a no phone policy in 2019 and it was fantastic. Heaven forbid people put their phones away and live in the moment.

Did you go to that APC show at Agganis a few years ago? Hardest enforcement I've ever seen. Signs on the back of chairs on the floor. One warning before you're bounced - I saw multiple people ejected.

Merkin Baller · January 30

pjl44 said:

Merkin Baller said:

Whatever the reason is for Tool's phone policy, (Maynard's a pretentious bitch or they don't want shitty bootlegs of their shows out there or they want a better experience for the fans with less distractions... ) who cares? it's a net gain that there aren't a f ton of glowing screens being held in the air between the audience and the stage.

Raconteurs had a no phone policy in 2019 and it was fantastic. Heaven forbid people put their phones away and live in the moment.

Did you go to that APC show at Agganis a few years ago? Hardest enforcement I've ever seen. Signs on the back of chairs on the floor. One warning before you're bounced - I saw multiple people ejected.

Yup, & it was awesome. I wish more bands adopted the no cell phone policy.

CantKeepmedown · January 30

I'd be fine with the no phone policy as well now that my kids are older. But I can see parents of youngsters having a slight issue with it.

Funny story, a few years ago, Jack White was playing here in Portland. I was not there but had friends who were. My son (who was probably 16-17 at the time) was out with his friends. They got pulled over and because the driver didn't have their license for long enough (not allowed to have anyone but family in the car), they all got brought to the station.

The officer started calling all the kids parents. One of my sons' friends parents were at the Jack White show. When the officer called me he asked if I knew so and so's parents. I told him that I did, but they weren't going to respond to a phone call and explained the situation. I vouched for them and luckily he released the kid to me.

Obviously not a big deal as the kids were older. But even parents that have younger kids with baby sitters I can see being a little hesitant to give up their phones for 2-3 hours. Especially if they are not aware of the policy (which I assume is stated on the ticket?)

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