#47 - Musk/trump/Vance

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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,549
    Choccoloccotide said:


    🤣🤣 They’ll blame anyone but themselves.
    Republicans are blaming Harris for Trump getting elected. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    edited November 2024
    lindamarie73 said:
    Ever wake up in a foreign land and feel so ALIVE and just wanna dance??? Got 2 NZ late last night and about 2 start our day in the this beautiful city of Auckland.  Been here a few times before, but boy overlooking the city from our cousins balcony is simply breathtaking…Very Seattle-ish. Can’t wait to meet up w/ the rest of our kiwi family later today and make our way to the show…I took the advice of one of the lifer posters on here and got myself a MAGA hat for the show…So keep an eye out 4 me if anyone happens to be out here and say hello…Mahalo 
    https://x.com/roland_medve/status/1854110291191120370?s=46
    Not wearing the issued armband?
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,589
    edited November 2024
    lindamarie73 said:
    Ever wake up in a foreign land and feel so ALIVE and just wanna dance??? Got 2 NZ late last night and about 2 start our day in the this beautiful city of Auckland.  Been here a few times before, but boy overlooking the city from our cousins balcony is simply breathtaking…Very Seattle-ish. Can’t wait to meet up w/ the rest of our kiwi family later today and make our way to the show…I took the advice of one of the lifer posters on here and got myself a MAGA hat for the show…So keep an eye out 4 me if anyone happens to be out here and say hello…Mahalo 
    https://x.com/roland_medve/status/1854110291191120370?s=46
    I edited my post! How long after 1/21/25 can we expect gasoline to be at 2$ a gallon and eggs $.75 cents a dozen and bacon very important for the MAGA cultist to be at $1.50 a  pack from the looks of most of them they seem to consume lots of bacon 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Ever wake up in a foreign land and feel so ALIVE and just wanna dance??? Got 2 NZ late last night and about 2 start our day in the this beautiful city of Auckland.  Been here a few times before, but boy overlooking the city from our cousins balcony is simply breathtaking…Very Seattle-ish. Can’t wait to meet up w/ the rest of our kiwi family later today and make our way to the show…I took the advice of one of the lifer posters on here and got myself a MAGA hat for the show…So keep an eye out 4 me if anyone happens to be out here and say hello…Mahalo 
    https://x.com/roland_medve/status/1854110291191120370?s=46
    Not wearing the issued armband?
    My two cents from a moderation standpoint:

    You can be called a racist or Nazi repeatedly and without recourse for any number of things that simply don't hew to left wing thought (voting for Trump, watching Fox News, etc.).But you can quickly get in hot water for "personal attacks" by saying someone is dense, stupid, etc. Mind you, these are not people who have said anything actually racist or pro-Nazi, as that in and of itself would be grounds for discipline (justifiably).

    I think it's a big contributing factor to why this place is like it is and why you see threads like the Harris thread get locked up. Maybe the status quo is totally fine, but something to consider if you feel like it isn't.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,527
    For example, I think it's fair to question a candidate's policy you deem racist and ask why/if a supporter disagrees. But if someone saying "I'm wearing a MAGA hat" leads to racist/Nazi insults that seems quite plainly a personal attack. Which if that's cool, at least allow me to unleash a little on the people I truly feel are stupid or dense. 
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,220
    pjl44 said:
    For example, I think it's fair to question a candidate's policy you deem racist and ask why/if a supporter disagrees. But if someone saying "I'm wearing a MAGA hat" leads to racist/Nazi insults that seems quite plainly a personal attack. Which if that's cool, at least allow me to unleash a little on the people I truly feel are stupid or dense. 
    Good luck. I can’t believe how certain people act here. It really distracts from some excellent posts from the majority of regulars here. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,548
    brianlux said:

     I hate to say this, because I don't like to see people suffer, but I think this has to happen.  It's like how sometimes an addict has to hit bottom and then sink or swim.  


    I think this is exactly spot on. America as a country decided. We deserve what we get.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    edited November 2024
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Ever wake up in a foreign land and feel so ALIVE and just wanna dance??? Got 2 NZ late last night and about 2 start our day in the this beautiful city of Auckland.  Been here a few times before, but boy overlooking the city from our cousins balcony is simply breathtaking…Very Seattle-ish. Can’t wait to meet up w/ the rest of our kiwi family later today and make our way to the show…I took the advice of one of the lifer posters on here and got myself a MAGA hat for the show…So keep an eye out 4 me if anyone happens to be out here and say hello…Mahalo 
    https://x.com/roland_medve/status/1854110291191120370?s=46
    Not wearing the issued armband?
    My two cents from a moderation standpoint:

    You can be called a racist or Nazi repeatedly and without recourse for any number of things that simply don't hew to left wing thought (voting for Trump, watching Fox News, etc.).But you can quickly get in hot water for "personal attacks" by saying someone is dense, stupid, etc. Mind you, these are not people who have said anything actually racist or pro-Nazi, as that in and of itself would be grounds for discipline (justifiably).

    I think it's a big contributing factor to why this place is like it is and why you see threads like the Harris thread get locked up. Maybe the status quo is totally fine, but something to consider if you feel like it isn't.
    The MAGA hat is not a GOP or ”I vote conservative” hat. You are being nothing but dishonest in removing what the hat symbols by who that hat is in support of. 

    Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"

    Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.


    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Philly NJ
    Philly NJ Posts: 245
    Choccoloccotide said:

    He will not make the same mistake he did in 2016.  The uniparty can kick rocks.
    Agree. This is a good sign.
  • Choccoloccotide
    Choccoloccotide A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,235
    pjl44 said:
    Choccoloccotide said:
    It’s gonna happen
    What is it? A book? Couple pieces of paper? Excel file? Who has it right now? FBI? DOJ?
    The FBI has ithe lists.  They also have Hunter’s laptop and Ashley Biden’s diary even after saying for 2 years it was fake.  
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,548
    Real basement dweller brain going on here.

  • Hawk123
    Hawk123 Posts: 2,367
    These Trumps are such fucking losers. Innocent people being slaughtered 


  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,548
    And thats the callousness and lack of empathy that turns me off to them, their admin and their supporters. Like its some weird dunk. People are gonna die. Thats the end of their life. They will never exist again. And they are all "well whatever. too bad, so sad".


  • Choccoloccotide
    Choccoloccotide A grass shack nailed to a pinewood floor Posts: 1,235
    Hawk123 said:
    These Trumps are such fucking losers. Innocent people being slaughtered 


    Zelensky could have ended this war 2 years ago but refused to negotiate.  Fast forward to now with a million dead and he’s laughing all the way to the bank, but not for long.  
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,548
    he would have to give up his independent country. How is that acceptable? Why are we acting like what Russia is doing is totally fine? Even just giving them an inch on this?

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385
    Bentleyspop said:
    pjl44 said:
    The Trump DC hotel no longer exists so good news for foreign dignitaries who can stay wherever they want 
    What a surprise.
    A tRUmp branded business failing.

    sold the lease. needed the cash.....
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  • mickeyrat
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    OnWis97 said:
    To answer a question above, yeah, I am all for any Hollywood elites getting punished if they are involved in child-trafficking and sexual abuse.  As well as clergy, business people, university athletic department officials, cops, youth pastors, etc.

    that said, most American outrage has been reserved for fake and speculative cases. We assume all of Hollywood outside of Kevin Sorbo are pedos but we never once mention, I don’t know, the Catholic Church. I just hope parents look beyond this myopic view. If I had kids I would keep them away from “youth pastors” as vigilantly as I keep them away from unmarked white vans with dudes offering candy and puppies.

    or LDS. Or Evangelical pastors, or Cops, or......
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,589
    So Russia invades Ukraine and Zelensky is supposed to negotiate? 
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  • Hawk123
    Hawk123 Posts: 2,367
    Choccoloccotide said:
    Hawk123 said:
    These Trumps are such fucking losers. Innocent people being slaughtered 


    Zelensky could have ended this war 2 years ago but refused to negotiate.  Fast forward to now with a million dead and he’s laughing all the way to the bank, but not for long.  
    Or maybe he knew there was no negotiating. Do you honestly think Putin would’ve just backed the troops out and left it alone after getting Crimea? He wants the entire country and the Trumps will make sure he gets a significant piece of it since it’s in their best interest to help him out. 

    It’s funny how you make it Zelenskys fault that people are dead.  
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Tim Simmons said:
    brianlux said:

     I hate to say this, because I don't like to see people suffer, but I think this has to happen.  It's like how sometimes an addict has to hit bottom and then sink or swim.  


    I think this is exactly spot on. America as a country decided. We deserve what we get.

    I agree, though it's hugely unfortunate that we will all pay the price of electing a hateful dictator.  The blowback will be harsh.  All but the most wealthy will feel the pinch. People are going to struggle.  The question is, will voters who allowed this to happen learn from it?  Will they learn to fact check and think critically?  Or will they remain ignorant and prone to believing lies?  We shall see.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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