The Grammys

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  • bobasfeet
    bobasfeet Posts: 1,195
    The album deserves to be nominated. Good to see The Crowes on there as well. That may be the best Jack White solo record ever too.
  • mr bungle
    mr bungle Posts: 1,423
    I haven't watched the Grammys in a long time.  Do they show the Rock categories on the telecast?
  • kaw753
    kaw753 Posts: 941
    Do they still automatically give the Best Rap grammy to Will Smith every year?

    Big year for Fontaines D.C.. That new song on alt-nation Favourite is excellent.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,639
    mr bungle said:
    I haven't watched the Grammys in a long time.  Do they show the Rock categories on the telecast?
    No. The pre-show 
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  • mr bungle
    mr bungle Posts: 1,423
    igotid88 said:
    mr bungle said:
    I haven't watched the Grammys in a long time.  Do they show the Rock categories on the telecast?
    No. The pre-show 
    Thanks!  Hopefully there will be a live stream or something.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Earl Jam?

    Is that a joke?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    igotid88 said:
    mr bungle said:
    I haven't watched the Grammys in a long time.  Do they show the Rock categories on the telecast?
    No. The pre-show 
    What a fucking joke. 

    Be cool to win....but who fucking cares? 
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,639
    edited November 2024
    mr bungle said:
    igotid88 said:
    mr bungle said:
    I haven't watched the Grammys in a long time.  Do they show the Rock categories on the telecast?
    No. The pre-show 
    Thanks!  Hopefully there will be a live stream or something.
    Yea they always stream it on YouTube 

    https://youtu.be/BXjoYHQqBlA?si=YkX7LB5wAOBjAlzC
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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,822
    I used to be a member of the Recording Academy.  I was able to submit one of my former clients for nomination consideration.  The artist ended up winning a Grammy that year! (Due to an NDA, I can't name the client, but it is not a rock act).

    A few years ago, the academy started purging members who did not handle enough music clients, so I wasn't allowed to renew my membership.

    The Grammy show used to have some great performances, so it was fun to attend.

    Now, it is very different, with very few / almost no rock acts performing.
  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 960
    “Oh look a Grammy” - The Great Stone Gossard
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    I used to be a member of the Recording Academy.  I was able to submit one of my former clients for nomination consideration.  The artist ended up winning a Grammy that year! (Due to an NDA, I can't name the client, but it is not a rock act).

    A few years ago, the academy started purging members who did not handle enough music clients, so I wasn't allowed to renew my membership.

    The Grammy show used to have some great performances, so it was fun to attend.

    Now, it is very different, with very few / almost no rock acts performing.
    There's usually at least one rock performance, often combining a newer artist with a legacy artist. Last year, you had U2 doing "Atomic City" from Sphere, Joni Mitchell and friends doing "Both Sides Now," and Billy Joel doing two songs, his new one and "You May Be Right." Olivia Rodrigo also performed. She is a pop artist but most of her songs are basically alt-rock. And they had the Tracy Chapman/Luke Combs duet on "Fast Car." 

    The Grammys have had a lot of great performances in recent years, albeit fewer of them are rock performances. For several years now, the show has deemphasized the awards in favor of performance.

    Whether the rock album award gets handed out on the telecast varies from year to year. It likely depends on who's performing on the show.
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    By the way, with the Beatles nominated for a top award, I'd bet they're going to try to have Paul and Ringo perform in some form or fashion.
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  • Force Of Nature
    Force Of Nature York, England Posts: 1,135
    What does ‘best rock performance’ mean? What performance is that for?
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    edited November 2024
    Force Of Nature said:
    What does ‘best rock performance’ mean? What performance is that for?
    For the song "Dark Matter" as it appears on the album.
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  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,071
    Force Of Nature said:
    What does ‘best rock performance’ mean? What performance is that for?
    Seattle shows 
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,639
    mookeywrench said:
    Force Of Nature said:
    What does ‘best rock performance’ mean? What performance is that for?
    Seattle shows 
    It's not usually for a live performance unless it specifically says so
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  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,071
    igotid88 said:
    mookeywrench said:
    Force Of Nature said:
    What does ‘best rock performance’ mean? What performance is that for?
    Seattle shows 
    It's not usually for a live performance unless it specifically says so
    Or if Stone Cold says so
  • Force Of Nature
    Force Of Nature York, England Posts: 1,135
    BF25394 said:
    Force Of Nature said:
    What does ‘best rock performance’ mean? What performance is that for?
    For the song "Dark Matter" as it appears on the album.
    How does this work? How is it different to the song category?  e.g. you could have a bad song that is a good performance or vice versa?  Just not sure how you judge a performance on an album
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,071
    Force Of Nature said:
    BF25394 said:
    Force Of Nature said:
    What does ‘best rock performance’ mean? What performance is that for?
    For the song "Dark Matter" as it appears on the album.
    How does this work? How is it different to the song category?  e.g. you could have a bad song that is a good performance or vice versa?  Just not sure how you judge a performance on an album
    Grammy for best song is given to the songwriters.

    Grammy for best performance goes to everyone involved with the song.

    It gets blurry when entire bands collaborate towards their own songs, but if Dark Matter was nominated and won best song, Andrew Watt would win in addition to all the band.

    Or for example, if only Jeff Ament wrote the song Dark Matter, only he would win rather than Pearl Jam collectively.
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    Force Of Nature said:
    BF25394 said:
    Force Of Nature said:
    What does ‘best rock performance’ mean? What performance is that for?
    For the song "Dark Matter" as it appears on the album.
    How does this work? How is it different to the song category?  e.g. you could have a bad song that is a good performance or vice versa?  Just not sure how you judge a performance on an album
    Think of it as if it is "Rock Record of the Year."

    Taking a step back, Song of the Year is an all-genre award for songwriting. It considers the song as it is composed, not as it is recorded. Record of the Year is an all-genre award for the overall production. It considers the recording itself. Best Rock Performance is a genre-specific award that you can think of as the equivalent of Rock Record of the Year-- an award for the overall production and recording as opposed to the songwriting. Best Rock Song is the genre-specific analog to Song of the Year.

    To make matters more confusing, "Record" in all of these contexts is referring to a song, not an album, even though "record" is more commonly used today to refer to an album than a song.
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