Ohana - Great Music with no politics....please

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  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    BF25394 said:
    If you don’t want politics you shouldn’t go see the guys live.  It’s always going to be prevalent with EV.
    If you don't want politics, you shouldn't listen to their music. The. Songs. Are. Political. They have been from the beginning. Some people are oblivious about this, but it remains true.
    You can listen to the non-political songs.  They aren’t Rage Against the Machine.  There are plenty of non-political tracks in the catalog.
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  • Patrick_Sea3
    Patrick_Sea3 West Seattle Posts: 935
    SS105464 said:
    I have traveled many miles to hear some great music and enjoy one of the best festivals around.  Is it too much to ask EV to sing not preach?  Politics is blasted at us daily, this weekend should be a nice break from it.  To those of you who will give me the standard "Pearl Jam has always been vocal about issues, if you don't like it don't go to their shows" - that is a ridiculous statement so don't bother posting.  I have been listening to PJ longer than you have been alive.
    Ok Boomer!
  • njhaley1 said:
    Might as well ask 2 Live Crew not to swear or sing about booty. 


    Why now u dont bootying I mean bitching???
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,583
    The ongoing struggle for the republican Pearl Jam fan. 
  • SS105464 said:
    "I have been listening to PJ longer than you have been alive."
    Bold claim. I didn't know Pearl Jam was playing songs 48 years ago...but ok, you do you homie. 
    Member since 1996...
  • vmfury
    vmfury Posts: 1,091
    This thread provoked my first laugh of the day. 😆 

    If you’ve truly been listening to Pearl Jam, this thread would not have been created. 
    We’ll meet again, but not yet…not yet. 
  • KM73780
    KM73780 Posts: 1,174
    Interesting that OP made this request and then never commented again on their own thread?
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    pjl44 said:
    I also feel like, on balance, Ed has moderated quite a bit at live shows over the last 10-15 years. At least the shows I've been to. Whenever I hear someone gripe about it nowadays I'm like buddy your head would have exploded 20 years ago.
    I agree with this. My biggest problem with his speeches historically hasn't been that I agree or disagree with the subject matter, but that they have been rambling, discursive and not particularly persuasive (even as someone who is basically sympathetic to his point of view). He has gotten better at being pointed but less inflammatory. Last night's speech about grifting was a lowlight, though-- not because Trump's not a grifter and a menace (he plainly is), and not because it wasn't amusing at times (I laughed once or twice)-- but because it brought the show to a screeching halt for what felt like six full minutes. They could have played the full "W.M.A." in that time.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,264
    KM73780 said:
    Interesting that OP made this request and then never commented again on their own thread?
    Why would they? Would you come back here and explain yourself to all these posts? Waste of time 
  • The ongoing struggle for the republican Pearl Jam fan. 
    haha
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,490
    edited September 2024
    BF25394 said:
    pjl44 said:
    I also feel like, on balance, Ed has moderated quite a bit at live shows over the last 10-15 years. At least the shows I've been to. Whenever I hear someone gripe about it nowadays I'm like buddy your head would have exploded 20 years ago.
    I agree with this. My biggest problem with his speeches historically hasn't been that I agree or disagree with the subject matter, but that they have been rambling, discursive and not particularly persuasive (even as someone who is basically sympathetic to his point of view). He has gotten better at being pointed but less inflammatory. Last night's speech about grifting was a lowlight, though-- not because Trump's not a grifter and a menace (he plainly is), and not because it wasn't amusing at times (I laughed once or twice)-- but because it brought the show to a screeching halt for what felt like six full minutes. They could have played the full "W.M.A." in that time.
    He has a way of losing himself on the way to the point sometimes. Hehe. 
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    BF25394 said:
    pjl44 said:
    I also feel like, on balance, Ed has moderated quite a bit at live shows over the last 10-15 years. At least the shows I've been to. Whenever I hear someone gripe about it nowadays I'm like buddy your head would have exploded 20 years ago.
    I agree with this. My biggest problem with his speeches historically hasn't been that I agree or disagree with the subject matter, but that they have been rambling, discursive and not particularly persuasive (even as someone who is basically sympathetic to his point of view). He has gotten better at being pointed but less inflammatory. Last night's speech about grifting was a lowlight, though-- not because Trump's not a grifter and a menace (he plainly is), and not because it wasn't amusing at times (I laughed once or twice)-- but because it brought the show to a screeching halt for what felt like six full minutes. They could have played the full "W.M.A." in that time.
    Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head
  • I am happy I got some Trump bashing 🙃 🇺🇸
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • devonfz
    devonfz Posts: 181
    Yah the show was amazing thru betterman and then literally came to a halt the crowd completely lost an  amazing vibe and never recovered it was a seven minute rant on trump that made little sense and when you see the songs scratched off the list yah I’m not happy either it’s one thing if they had started on time or didn’t cut out music but it really was amazing until then plus the two ed solo songs  so yep I get it I just wanted a little more pj
    too
  • KM73780 said:
    Interesting that OP made this request and then never commented again on their own thread?

    @SoTheCommentSectionIsntGoingHowYouWanted?
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  • BF89905
    BF89905 Posts: 1,448
    AlaG said:
    Going to public spaces and not being affected by the current sociopolitical climate and a recent very unpopular decision that was made by the Supreme Court is unfortunately a privilege less and less people have these days.

    Women having bodily autonomy shouldn’t be “political”. Reasonable gun control laws to keep our kids safe shouldn’t be “political”. They’re really not saying anything that isn’t totally agreeable for anyone with a shred of empathy. Just spreading love and community.
    👏👏

    This right here
    Agreed.... Well said..... There needs to be a lot more empathy
  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    cbeiting said:
    SS105464 said:
    "I have been listening to PJ longer than you have been alive."
    Bold claim. I didn't know Pearl Jam was playing songs 48 years ago...but ok, you do you homie. 

    Yeah I didn't know 34 was larger than 42.
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  • ZoSoTim
    ZoSoTim Posts: 1,290
    I am happy I got some Trump bashing 🙃 🇺🇸
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    pjl44 said:
    BF25394 said:
    pjl44 said:
    I also feel like, on balance, Ed has moderated quite a bit at live shows over the last 10-15 years. At least the shows I've been to. Whenever I hear someone gripe about it nowadays I'm like buddy your head would have exploded 20 years ago.
    I agree with this. My biggest problem with his speeches historically hasn't been that I agree or disagree with the subject matter, but that they have been rambling, discursive and not particularly persuasive (even as someone who is basically sympathetic to his point of view). He has gotten better at being pointed but less inflammatory. Last night's speech about grifting was a lowlight, though-- not because Trump's not a grifter and a menace (he plainly is), and not because it wasn't amusing at times (I laughed once or twice)-- but because it brought the show to a screeching halt for what felt like six full minutes. They could have played the full "W.M.A." in that time.
    Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head
    Agreed as well
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,550
    ZoSoTim said:
    I am happy I got some Trump bashing 🙃 🇺🇸
    MAKE AMERICA TRUMPLESS AGAIN
    Ah Trump ... It's ..

    MAGA = Make America Greek Again