Ohana - Great Music with no politics....please

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  • curleybarney
    curleybarney USA Posts: 220
    AlaG said:
    Going to public spaces and not being affected by the current sociopolitical climate and a recent very unpopular decision that was made by the Supreme Court is unfortunately a privilege less and less people have these days.

    Women having bodily autonomy shouldn’t be “political”. Reasonable gun control laws to keep our kids safe shouldn’t be “political”. They’re really not saying anything that isn’t totally agreeable for anyone with a shred of empathy. Just spreading love and community.
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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    AlaG said:
    Going to public spaces and not being affected by the current sociopolitical climate and a recent very unpopular decision that was made by the Supreme Court is unfortunately a privilege less and less people have these days.

    Women having bodily autonomy shouldn’t be “political”. Reasonable gun control laws to keep our kids safe shouldn’t be “political”. They’re really not saying anything that isn’t totally agreeable for anyone with a shred of empathy. Just spreading love and community.
    Thank you.
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  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,002
    AlaG said:
    Going to public spaces and not being affected by the current sociopolitical climate and a recent very unpopular decision that was made by the Supreme Court is unfortunately a privilege less and less people have these days.

    Women having bodily autonomy shouldn’t be “political”. Reasonable gun control laws to keep our kids safe shouldn’t be “political”. They’re really not saying anything that isn’t totally agreeable for anyone with a shred of empathy. Just spreading love and community.
    Great post! 
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,134
    edited September 2024
     The first night looks great and it is totally predictable what Ed will say about the state of our country.
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    The. Songs. Are. Political.

    And they always have been. If the original poster has been listening for more than 49 years-- i.e., longer than I've been alive-- and has somehow missed this, then he is extremely oblivious. "All the bills go by and/Initiatives are taken up/By the middle/There ain't gonna be any middle any more"-- does the OP think this was about the interior defense of the Seahawks or something? I'd bet the OP is a "W.M.A." as well. Does he think that song is about the William Morris Agency?

    Here is the thing, OP: you don't have a problem with an artist expressing political views. You have a problem with an artist expressing political views that you disagree with.
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  • curleybarney
    curleybarney USA Posts: 220
    BF25394 said:
    The. Songs. Are. Political.

    And they always have been. If the original poster has been listening for more than 49 years-- i.e., longer than I've been alive-- and has somehow missed this, then he is extremely oblivious. "All the bills go by and/Initiatives are taken up/By the middle/There ain't gonna be any middle any more"-- does the OP think this was about the interior defense of the Seahawks or something? I'd bet the OP is a "W.M.A." as well. Does he think that song is about the William Morris Agency?

    Here is the thing, OP: you don't have a problem with an artist expressing political views. You have a problem with an artist expressing political views that you disagree with.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,813
    AlaG said:

    They’re really not saying anything that isn’t totally agreeable for anyone with a shred of empathy. 
    I think you just identified the problem. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    I think it's perfectly fine to disagree with some of their positions (as I do) but the onus is on you, as an adult, to buy the ticket or not. It's pretty goofy to think that you should have any input about what comes through those speakers.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,689
    I hope the OP doesn’t mind Ed mentioning the disaster that occurred from Helen and where people can donate to help all the folks that lost everything! 
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  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    edited September 2024
    If you don’t want politics you shouldn’t go see the guys live.  It’s always going to be prevalent with EV.
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    Glorified KC said:
    If you don’t want politics you shouldn’t go see the guys live.  It’s always going to be prevalent with EV.
    If you don't want politics, you shouldn't listen to their music. The. Songs. Are. Political. They have been from the beginning. Some people are oblivious about this, but it remains true.
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  • njhaley1
    njhaley1 Valley of the Sun Posts: 877
    Might as well ask 2 Live Crew not to swear or sing about booty. 
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,378
    njhaley1 said:
    Might as well ask 2 Live Crew not to swear or sing about booty. 

    I laughed
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  • robbie
    robbie Posts: 883
    Pearl jam and IDLES? You don't want politics, or socially relevant issues? Do you want any lyrics, or should they just play instrumental versions if their songs?
  • curleybarney
    curleybarney USA Posts: 220
    Go say hi to Mom's Demand and Planned Parenthood in The Cove. Go register to vote with Headcount. 

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  • ZoSoTim
    ZoSoTim Posts: 1,290
    Pearl Jam has always been vocal about issues, if you don't like it don't go to their shows
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  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,075

    Pearl Jam has always been vocal about issues, if you don't like it don't go to their shows
    Interested in hearing what makes this quote ridiculous. 

    OP says he's been listening to the band longer than we've all been alive. The band has a 33 year track record of letting their political stance be known at shows and in their music.

    It seems like a pretty logical stance if you really don't want to hear it. The OP has full control with his own topic.

  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    It's not a binary thing political or non-political. Every song, interview, banter, or statement sits on a spectrum from subtle to hamfisted, moderate to radical. And that can vary by issue. These things change over time too. For example not every show is 03 Uniondale.

    So "hur dur they've always been political" is pretty reductive and misses the point. Especially their music which is generally pretty clever politically.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    I also feel like, on balance, Ed has moderated quite a bit at live shows over the last 10-15 years. At least the shows I've been to. Whenever I hear someone gripe about it nowadays I'm like buddy your head would have exploded 20 years ago.
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    edited September 2024
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