"Dark Matter" and its tracks on the charts

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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,803
    BF25394 said:
    Expecting a traditional rock song to cross over--i.e., to pop radio, which has the largest audience-- is a huge ask in 2024. Pop radio is not as eclectic as it was when I was growing up. It used to be rock, pop, R&B and even some country. Now it's dance-oriented pop, hip-hop-flavored R&B and electronic dance music. Rock and traditional R&B songs are rarely played on pop radio anymore. In the early 1990s, "Wreckage" would have easily been a top ten hit on the Hot 100. Today, that's an impossibility unless it were to have a TV or movie synch that created a groundswell of demand (as happened with Kate Bush's "Running Up That Hill" when it was used heavily in Stranger Things).
    Or if Taylor Swift is on video singing along to it
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  • BF25394
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    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    Expecting a traditional rock song to cross over--i.e., to pop radio, which has the largest audience-- is a huge ask in 2024. Pop radio is not as eclectic as it was when I was growing up. It used to be rock, pop, R&B and even some country. Now it's dance-oriented pop, hip-hop-flavored R&B and electronic dance music. Rock and traditional R&B songs are rarely played on pop radio anymore. In the early 1990s, "Wreckage" would have easily been a top ten hit on the Hot 100. Today, that's an impossibility unless it were to have a TV or movie synch that created a groundswell of demand (as happened with Kate Bush's "Running Up That Hill" when it was used heavily in Stranger Things).
    Or if Taylor Swift is on video singing along to it
    True.

    Or if Trump tries to use it at one of his rallies and there's a heavily publicized cease-and-desist. And people might say, "Why would Trump play a song about combing through the wreckage that's arguably about his presidency?" To which I would respond, his theme song in 2016 was "You Can't Always Get What You Want."
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  • igotid88
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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2024/09/12/pearl-jam-ties-tom-petty-as-their-latest-single-becomes-a-radio-smash/?fbclid=IwY2xjawFQkqlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHWjddLFRZMcaelZ1HnqSoIAvQAXX7PDYQ_FJvL_631NiEqtFeovxeS-qPw_aem_f_WGJalWpufEG47Q2phGUA
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  • The Juggler
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    SO....

    IF they do play SNL in a few weeks, what two songs do you think they will play and in what order?

    Would they put Stevie in the prime slot before Weekend Update? Or do they give that to Wreckage maybe?


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  • BF25394
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    I would be surprised if Pearl Jam makes a special trip to New York in October just to play Saturday Night Live. If they were interested in playing TV shows, the time would have been in the spring when the album was released. 
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  • kmcmanus
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    BF25394 said:
    I would be surprised if Pearl Jam makes a special trip to New York in October just to play Saturday Night Live. If they were interested in playing TV shows, the time would have been in the spring when the album was released. 
    They would also need for SNL to invite them, which might not be the slam dunk in 2024 that a lot of us might hope
  • igotid88
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    kmcmanus said:
    BF25394 said:
    I would be surprised if Pearl Jam makes a special trip to New York in October just to play Saturday Night Live. If they were interested in playing TV shows, the time would have been in the spring when the album was released. 
    They would also need for SNL to invite them, which might not be the slam dunk in 2024 that a lot of us might hope
    They keep inviting the Foo Fighters. So why not the best band in the world today?
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  • The Juggler
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    igotid88 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    BF25394 said:
    I would be surprised if Pearl Jam makes a special trip to New York in October just to play Saturday Night Live. If they were interested in playing TV shows, the time would have been in the spring when the album was released. 
    They would also need for SNL to invite them, which might not be the slam dunk in 2024 that a lot of us might hope
    They keep inviting the Foo Fighters. So why not the best band in the world today?
    Yeah I do not think it is a stretch for them to be invited on SNL.
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,803
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    BF25394 said:
    I would be surprised if Pearl Jam makes a special trip to New York in October just to play Saturday Night Live. If they were interested in playing TV shows, the time would have been in the spring when the album was released. 
    They would also need for SNL to invite them, which might not be the slam dunk in 2024 that a lot of us might hope
    They keep inviting the Foo Fighters. So why not the best band in the world today?
    Yeah I do not think it is a stretch for them to be invited on SNL.
    I really want is for them to perform at the Grammys. That's if they get nominated of course. But that's even less likely than SNL.
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  • The Juggler
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    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    BF25394 said:
    I would be surprised if Pearl Jam makes a special trip to New York in October just to play Saturday Night Live. If they were interested in playing TV shows, the time would have been in the spring when the album was released. 
    They would also need for SNL to invite them, which might not be the slam dunk in 2024 that a lot of us might hope
    They keep inviting the Foo Fighters. So why not the best band in the world today?
    Yeah I do not think it is a stretch for them to be invited on SNL.
    I really want is for them to perform at the Grammys. That's if they get nominated of course. But that's even less likely than SNL.
    I could not care less about the Grammys. 
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    Original post updated for charts for week ending September 21, 2024.

    "Wreckage" drops off all U.S.-based airplay charts after 20 weeks, and falls to No. 2 after eight weeks atop the Canada Rock chart.

    "Waiting for Stevie" moves up from No. 33 to No. 31 on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart. It does not yet appear on the Alternative or Triple-A charts.

    In other Pearl Jam-related chart news, Eddie Vedder's cover of "Save It for Later" falls from No. 34 to No. 40 in its eighth week on the Alternative Airplay chart. It previously peaked at No. 29.
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  • igotid88
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    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    BF25394 said:
    I would be surprised if Pearl Jam makes a special trip to New York in October just to play Saturday Night Live. If they were interested in playing TV shows, the time would have been in the spring when the album was released. 
    They would also need for SNL to invite them, which might not be the slam dunk in 2024 that a lot of us might hope
    They keep inviting the Foo Fighters. So why not the best band in the world today?
    Yeah I do not think it is a stretch for them to be invited on SNL.
    I really want is for them to perform at the Grammys. That's if they get nominated of course. But that's even less likely than SNL.
    I could not care less about the Grammys. 
    Well no Pearl Jam on SNL for the first 5 weeks
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  • The Juggler
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    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    BF25394 said:
    I would be surprised if Pearl Jam makes a special trip to New York in October just to play Saturday Night Live. If they were interested in playing TV shows, the time would have been in the spring when the album was released. 
    They would also need for SNL to invite them, which might not be the slam dunk in 2024 that a lot of us might hope
    They keep inviting the Foo Fighters. So why not the best band in the world today?
    Yeah I do not think it is a stretch for them to be invited on SNL.
    I really want is for them to perform at the Grammys. That's if they get nominated of course. But that's even less likely than SNL.
    I could not care less about the Grammys. 
    Well no Pearl Jam on SNL for the first 5 weeks
    I don't get it
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,803
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    BF25394 said:
    I would be surprised if Pearl Jam makes a special trip to New York in October just to play Saturday Night Live. If they were interested in playing TV shows, the time would have been in the spring when the album was released. 
    They would also need for SNL to invite them, which might not be the slam dunk in 2024 that a lot of us might hope
    They keep inviting the Foo Fighters. So why not the best band in the world today?
    Yeah I do not think it is a stretch for them to be invited on SNL.
    I really want is for them to perform at the Grammys. That's if they get nominated of course. But that's even less likely than SNL.
    I could not care less about the Grammys. 
    Well no Pearl Jam on SNL for the first 5 weeks
    I don't get it
    What's not to get? They've announced to guest hosts and musical guests to start the season
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    Chart Scene: Pearl Jam’s ‘Dark Matter Tour’ Earns Top Debut On LIVE75 https://news.pollstar.com/2024/09/20/chart-scene-pearl-jams-dark-matter-tour-earns-top-debut-on-live75/
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    Original post updated for charts for week ending September 28, 2024.

    "Wreckage" holds at No. 2 after eight weeks atop the Canada Rock chart.

    "Waiting for Stevie" moves up from No. 31 to No. 27 in its third week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart.

    In other Pearl Jam-related chart news, Eddie Vedder's cover of "Save It for Later" holds at No. 40 in its ninth week on the 40-position Alternative Airplay chart. It previously peaked at No. 29.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    BF25394 said:
    I would be surprised if Pearl Jam makes a special trip to New York in October just to play Saturday Night Live. If they were interested in playing TV shows, the time would have been in the spring when the album was released. 
    They would also need for SNL to invite them, which might not be the slam dunk in 2024 that a lot of us might hope
    They keep inviting the Foo Fighters. So why not the best band in the world today?
    Yeah I do not think it is a stretch for them to be invited on SNL.
    I really want is for them to perform at the Grammys. That's if they get nominated of course. But that's even less likely than SNL.
    I could not care less about the Grammys. 
    Well no Pearl Jam on SNL for the first 5 weeks
    I don't get it
    What's not to get? 
    Why Pearl Jam has again decided against seriously promoting a new album...
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    BF25394 said:
    I would be surprised if Pearl Jam makes a special trip to New York in October just to play Saturday Night Live. If they were interested in playing TV shows, the time would have been in the spring when the album was released. 
    They would also need for SNL to invite them, which might not be the slam dunk in 2024 that a lot of us might hope
    They keep inviting the Foo Fighters. So why not the best band in the world today?
    Yeah I do not think it is a stretch for them to be invited on SNL.
    I really want is for them to perform at the Grammys. That's if they get nominated of course. But that's even less likely than SNL.
    I could not care less about the Grammys. 
    Well no Pearl Jam on SNL for the first 5 weeks
    I don't get it
    What's not to get? 
    Why Pearl Jam has again decided against seriously promoting a new album...
    I think they don't care enough to go to the trouble of schlepping across the country to play a show that won't make any meaningful difference to their album sales or consumption. It's also not clear that they would be a priority for SNL anyway.
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  • T-Bone 82
    T-Bone 82 Posts: 422
    BF25394 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    BF25394 said:
    I would be surprised if Pearl Jam makes a special trip to New York in October just to play Saturday Night Live. If they were interested in playing TV shows, the time would have been in the spring when the album was released. 
    They would also need for SNL to invite them, which might not be the slam dunk in 2024 that a lot of us might hope
    They keep inviting the Foo Fighters. So why not the best band in the world today?
    Yeah I do not think it is a stretch for them to be invited on SNL.
    I really want is for them to perform at the Grammys. That's if they get nominated of course. But that's even less likely than SNL.
    I could not care less about the Grammys. 
    Well no Pearl Jam on SNL for the first 5 weeks
    I don't get it
    What's not to get? 
    Why Pearl Jam has again decided against seriously promoting a new album...
    I think they don't care enough to go to the trouble of schlepping across the country to play a show that won't make any meaningful difference to their album sales or consumption. It's also not clear that they would be a priority for SNL anyway.
    Agreed. Doing all that to sell 10,000 more albums or something is just not worth it. Huge majority of their income is touring. 
    "Darkness comes in waves, tell me, why invite it to stay?"
  • VINNY GOOMBA
    VINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,828
    Would be cool to see a live version of Waiting for Stevie to be released as a music video.  I imagine they have been filming this tour?  Would cut up nicely with Ed wearing the same Jersey at every show :)

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