"Dark Matter" and its tracks on the charts

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  • BF25394
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    T-Bone 82 said:
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    BF25394 said:
    I would be surprised if Pearl Jam makes a special trip to New York in October just to play Saturday Night Live. If they were interested in playing TV shows, the time would have been in the spring when the album was released. 
    They would also need for SNL to invite them, which might not be the slam dunk in 2024 that a lot of us might hope
    They keep inviting the Foo Fighters. So why not the best band in the world today?
    Yeah I do not think it is a stretch for them to be invited on SNL.
    I really want is for them to perform at the Grammys. That's if they get nominated of course. But that's even less likely than SNL.
    I could not care less about the Grammys. 
    Well no Pearl Jam on SNL for the first 5 weeks
    I don't get it
    What's not to get? 
    Why Pearl Jam has again decided against seriously promoting a new album...
    I think they don't care enough to go to the trouble of schlepping across the country to play a show that won't make any meaningful difference to their album sales or consumption. It's also not clear that they would be a priority for SNL anyway.
    Agreed. Doing all that to sell 10,000 more albums or something is just not worth it. Huge majority of their income is touring. 
    And it would be more like less than 5,000. In 2024, the overwhelming share of people who want to buy a new Pearl Jam album are anticipating its release and buying it when it first comes out. And there just aren't that many of us anymore. There are lots of people in this fan club who don't even buy the new albums, which never made sense to me but apparently a significant number of people are just here for first crack at the best tickets to go see them play songs from their first five albums.
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  • igotid88
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    BF25394 said:
    T-Bone 82 said:
    BF25394 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
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    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    The Juggler said:
    igotid88 said:
    kmcmanus said:
    BF25394 said:
    I would be surprised if Pearl Jam makes a special trip to New York in October just to play Saturday Night Live. If they were interested in playing TV shows, the time would have been in the spring when the album was released. 
    They would also need for SNL to invite them, which might not be the slam dunk in 2024 that a lot of us might hope
    They keep inviting the Foo Fighters. So why not the best band in the world today?
    Yeah I do not think it is a stretch for them to be invited on SNL.
    I really want is for them to perform at the Grammys. That's if they get nominated of course. But that's even less likely than SNL.
    I could not care less about the Grammys. 
    Well no Pearl Jam on SNL for the first 5 weeks
    I don't get it
    What's not to get? 
    Why Pearl Jam has again decided against seriously promoting a new album...
    I think they don't care enough to go to the trouble of schlepping across the country to play a show that won't make any meaningful difference to their album sales or consumption. It's also not clear that they would be a priority for SNL anyway.
    Agreed. Doing all that to sell 10,000 more albums or something is just not worth it. Huge majority of their income is touring. 
    And it would be more like less than 5,000. In 2024, the overwhelming share of people who want to buy a new Pearl Jam album are anticipating its release and buying it when it first comes out. And there just aren't that many of us anymore. There are lots of people in this fan club who don't even buy the new albums, which never made sense to me but apparently a significant number of people are just here for first crack at the best tickets to go see them play songs from their first five albums.
    And between the fb groups there's over 150k members. I some overlap and of course foreign members. But when it says only just over 100k was sold/streamed/downloads whatever? And some of us have like 5-12 copies because of the variants. That's probably 70% of those people that haven't purchased the album. I'm making 70% up of course. I'm sure they streamed the album or watch some on YouTube. 
    But the appearances on shows like SNL are for the casuals or never heard of the band types. Reminding people you're still around or maybe getting new fans. 
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  • BF25394
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    igotid88 said:

    And between the fb groups there's over 150k members. I some overlap and of course foreign members. But when it says only just over 100k was sold/streamed/downloads whatever? And some of us have like 5-12 copies because of the variants. That's probably 70% of those people that haven't purchased the album. I'm making 70% up of course. I'm sure they streamed the album or watch some on YouTube. 
    But the appearances on shows like SNL are for the casuals or never heard of the band types. Reminding people you're still around or maybe getting new fans. 
    It's just that not many of the casuals buy albums anymore, and they stream new music negligibly. The overwhelming majority of the audience for new music is under 30, and that audience is, by and large, not listening to classic rock bands or watching network television.
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,521
    BF25394 said:
    Original post updated for charts for week ending September 28, 2024.

    "Wreckage" holds at No. 2 after eight weeks atop the Canada Rock chart.

    "Waiting for Stevie" moves up from No. 31 to No. 27 in its third week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart.

    In other Pearl Jam-related chart news, Eddie Vedder's cover of "Save It for Later" holds at No. 40 in its ninth week on the 40-position Alternative Airplay chart. It previously peaked at No. 29.

    I still haven't heard Waiting For Stevie on the radio out here. 
  • igotid88
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    If they do SNL. 2 hosts I would like to see them with are Lindsay Lohan for the Freaky Friday sequel or Pedro Pascal for the Last of Us season 2 promotion. 
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  • spankyMP
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    igotid88 said:
    If they do SNL. 2 hosts I would like to see them with are Lindsay Lohan for the Freaky Friday sequel or Pedro Pascal for the Last of Us season 2 promotion. 
    Pascal for sure.
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  • The Juggler
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    Regardless of the affect on how many units it sells, there is still a level of prestige associated with a performance on SNL and I have to believe the band is still appreciative of that. I am sure SNL would want them.

    Hope it happens. Fingers remained crossed. 
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  • igotid88
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    Over 3 million people have heard it through the trailer and trailer reactions. But I don't think they count those
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  • BF25394
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    The Juggler said:
    Regardless of the affect on how many units it sells, there is still a level of prestige associated with a performance on SNL and I have to believe the band is still appreciative of that. I am sure SNL would want them.

    Hope it happens. Fingers remained crossed. 
    But not to the extent that they will go to the expense and trouble of making a special trip across the country to play the show, I don't think. If they were in New York on tour or for some other engagement, it would make more sense.
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  • BF25394
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    Original post updated for charts for week ending October 5, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" moves up from No. 27 to No. 23 in its fourth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart. It debuts at No. 45 on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart.

    "Wreckage" slips from No. 2 to No. 3 on the Canada Rock chart after previously topping that chart for eight weeks.
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  • demetrios
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    BF25394 said:
    Original post updated for charts for week ending October 5, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" moves up from No. 27 to No. 23 in its fourth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart. It debuts at No. 45 on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart.

    "Wreckage" slips from No. 2 to No. 3 on the Canada Rock chart after previously topping that chart for eight weeks.

    Slips down? Oh no!!! Gotta bring that back up. 
  • BF25394
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    Original post updated for charts for week ending October 12, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" moves up from No. 23 to No. 22 in its fifth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart. It slips from its No. 45 debut on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart to No. 46 in its second week.

    "Wreckage" falls from No. 3 to No. 7 on the Canada Rock chart after previously topping that chart for eight weeks.
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  • The Juggler
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    Stevie Nicks was on SNL this weekend. 

    You can't convince me Pearl Jam can't get on SNL these days. lol
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  • BF25394
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    It's not that they can't. It's that there's not a lot in it for them, especially if they're not already in or near New York.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    edited October 2024
    Them playing SNL in 2006 was such a highlight of that promotion cycle. HAND OF THE SEVERED
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  • The Juggler
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    edited October 2024
    I'm sure Stevie Nicks got a lot out of that


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  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    I heard Running & Stevie during the Browns-Eagles game.
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  • T-Bone 82
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    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    I heard Running & Stevie during the Browns-Eagles game.
    I caught Running but not Stevie. Nice!
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  • BF25394
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    edited October 2024
    Original post updated for charts for week ending October 19, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" holds at No. 22 in its sixth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart. (After six weeks on that chart, "Dark Matter" was No. 1, and "Wreckage" was No. 10.) "Waiting for Stevie" slips from No. 46 to No. 48 in its third week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart after peaking at No. 45 in its debut week. ("Dark Matter" peaked at No. 1 for three weeks on that chart, and "Wreckage" peaked at No. 2 for four weeks.)

    "Wreckage" moves back up from No. 7 to No. 5 on the Canada Rock chart after previously topping that chart for eight weeks.
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  • demetrios
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    BF25394 said:
    Original post updated for charts for week ending October 19, 2024.

    "Waiting for Stevie" holds at No. 22 in its sixth week on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart. (After six weeks on that chart, "Dark Matter" was No. 1, and "Wreckage" was No. 10.) "Waiting for Stevie" slips from No. 46 to No. 48 in its third week on the Rock & Alternative Airplay chart after peaking at No. 45 in its debut week. ("Dark Matter" peaked at No. 1 for three weeks on that chart, and "Wreckage" peaked at No. 2 for four weeks.)

    "Wreckage" moves back up from No. 7 to No. 5 on the Canada Rock chart after previously topping that chart for eight weeks.
    Excellent!

    Still haven't heard Waiting For Stevie on the local radio stations here.

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