"Dark Matter" and its tracks on the charts

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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,608
    The Juggler said:
    Did Ed say Won't Tell is going to be the next single at MSG tonight?

    Also....how in the fuck are they are not doing Colbert or Fallon this week? 
    He said the Little Steven said to release it and he'll play it on his channel and make it the best song you'll ever hear segment. Or something to that effect. Here's hoping it is a single at some point 
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,938
    igotid88 said:
    Linkin Park new single has 4 million views in 18 hours. Dark Matter has 2.1 million in 6 months. 
    Sure but, in the end, it doesn't even matter...
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,608
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Linkin Park new single has 4 million views in 18 hours. Dark Matter has 2.1 million in 6 months. 
    Sure but, in the end, it doesn't even matter...
    Probably. But it would be nice if our guys got that kind of support 
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,938
    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Linkin Park new single has 4 million views in 18 hours. Dark Matter has 2.1 million in 6 months. 
    Sure but, in the end, it doesn't even matter...
    Probably. But it would be nice if our guys got that kind of support 
    You know what I was doing there, right?

    It's not a question of support. It's a question of popularity (and, to a degree, marketing). Pearl Jam has a devoted fan base, but it's not anywhere near as large as it used to be, and a huge portion of it has no interest in new music.
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,938
    edited September 2024
    Original post updated for charts for week ending September 14, 2024.

    "Wreckage" holds for an eighth week at No. 1 on the Canada Rock chart. It rebounds from No. 18 to No. 15 on Rock & Alternative Airplay.

    "Waiting for Stevie" debuts at No. 33 on the Mainstream Rock Airplay chart.

    In other Pearl Jam-related chart news, Eddie Vedder's cover of "Save It for Later" falls off the Rock and Alternative Airplay chart after eight weeks. It peaked at No. 18. It also holds at No. 34 in its seventh week on the Alternative Airplay chart. It previously peaked at No. 29.
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,608
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Linkin Park new single has 4 million views in 18 hours. Dark Matter has 2.1 million in 6 months. 
    Sure but, in the end, it doesn't even matter...
    Probably. But it would be nice if our guys got that kind of support 
    You know what I was doing there, right?

    It's not a question of support. It's a question of popularity (and, to a degree, marketing). Pearl Jam has a devoted fan base, but it's not anywhere near as large as it used to be, and a huge portion of it has no interest in new music.
    Yes I got it
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,608
    Wish the Dark Matter songs got more love. I know it's doing well on rock radio. But Wreckage should have crossed over. I wouldn't be surprised if Stevie didn't do well. 


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  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 960
    Is Waiting For Stevie officially the next single?  If so, it’s about time.  Needs to actually be promoted now. 
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    Apparently WFS was released as a single today. 
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • T-Bone 82
    T-Bone 82 Posts: 421
    igotid88 said:
    Wish the Dark Matter songs got more love. I know it's doing well on rock radio. But Wreckage should have crossed over. I wouldn't be surprised if Stevie didn't do well. 


    I was at the Philly Sat night show with a buddy who is a casual PJ fan and leans much more toward the earlier songs. But he loves the new album and he was more pumped to hear Wreckage over any other tune the whole night. 

    I am also surprised it did not cross over into any of the pop charts.

    I do think Waiting for Stevie will do well at rock radio but probably nowhere else. I still think Won't Tell has the most crossover appeal of any song other than Wreckage.
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  • TK46426
    TK46426 Posts: 31
    I love Wreckage the way it is. But I wonder if it had been a 3min 30 seconds song if it would have had a better chance to cross over. 
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,608
    People here and on the fb groups crap on Sirens. But that crossedover a bit. And it's still in the top of their streams and youtube views. Still has more daily streams than Wreckage 
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  • rahjiim
    rahjiim Posts: 164
    igotid88 said:
    People here and on the fb groups crap on Sirens. But that crossedover a bit. And it's still in the top of their streams and youtube views. Still has more daily streams than Wreckage 
    Yeah, but what percentage of streamers actually chose to listen to the song, and how many just heard it on some playlist, or because it was suggested by the streaming app? These days it takes some efford to make the apps play what you really want to hear. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,448
    edited September 2024
    rahjiim said:
    igotid88 said:
    People here and on the fb groups crap on Sirens. But that crossedover a bit. And it's still in the top of their streams and youtube views. Still has more daily streams than Wreckage 
    Yeah, but what percentage of streamers actually chose to listen to the song, and how many just heard it on some playlist, or because it was suggested by the streaming app? These days it takes some efford to make the apps play what you really want to hear. 
    People like Sirens. It's dope.
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  • rahjiim
    rahjiim Posts: 164
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    rahjiim said:
    igotid88 said:
    People here and on the fb groups crap on Sirens. But that crossedover a bit. And it's still in the top of their streams and youtube views. Still has more daily streams than Wreckage 
    Yeah, but what percentage of streamers actually chose to listen to the song, and how many just heard it on some playlist, or because it was suggested by the streaming app? These days it takes some efford to make the apps play what you really want to hear. 
    People like Sirens. It's dope. Live with it.
    I love it too. But Spotify and Amazon Music unlimited are far more likely to come up with it when i just play some sort of automatically generated list. 
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,608
    edited September 2024
    rahjiim said:
    igotid88 said:
    People here and on the fb groups crap on Sirens. But that crossedover a bit. And it's still in the top of their streams and youtube views. Still has more daily streams than Wreckage 
    Yeah, but what percentage of streamers actually chose to listen to the song, and how many just heard it on some playlist, or because it was suggested by the streaming app? These days it takes some efford to make the apps play what you really want to hear. 
    If that were the case Wreckage would be getting more as it's more recent and should be in more new music types of playlists. It's not like Sirens is getting a huge amount of streams. So I would think those are genuine listens. The 2 music videos are closing on a 100 million combined views. 
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  • The Juggler
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    So SNL premiers in two weeks.

    Is there ANY chance they are on it? 

    Not sure of their schedule...
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,608
    edited September 2024
    The Juggler said:
    So SNL premiers in two weeks.

    Is there ANY chance they are on it? 

    Not sure of their schedule...
    Ohana. Maybe the following week? I'm sure they're going to want a break before they head overseas again. So if they're not on the 2nd week then probably until next year if they still want to promote the album 
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  • rahjiim
    rahjiim Posts: 164
    igotid88 said:
    rahjiim said:
    igotid88 said:
    People here and on the fb groups crap on Sirens. But that crossedover a bit. And it's still in the top of their streams and youtube views. Still has more daily streams than Wreckage 
    Yeah, but what percentage of streamers actually chose to listen to the song, and how many just heard it on some playlist, or because it was suggested by the streaming app? These days it takes some efford to make the apps play what you really want to hear. 
    If that were the case Wreckage would be getting more as it's more recent and should be in more new music types of playlists. It's not like Sirens is getting a huge amount of streams. So I would think those are genuine listens. The 2 music videos are closing on a 100 imillion combined views. 
    Well, i don't know how that works. I own the CD, but no CD-player. So stream, but usually full albums. And I listen to Dark Matter a lot. But when I use a playlist based on what I listened to recently, it usually includes Sirens. For years. Also Black. But nothing of Gigaton or Dark Matter. 
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,938
    Expecting a traditional rock song to cross over--i.e., to pop radio, which has the largest audience-- is a huge ask in 2024. Pop radio is not as eclectic as it was when I was growing up. It used to be rock, pop, R&B and even some country. Now it's dance-oriented pop, hip-hop-flavored R&B and electronic dance music. Rock and traditional R&B songs are rarely played on pop radio anymore. In the early 1990s, "Wreckage" would have easily been a top ten hit on the Hot 100. Today, that's an impossibility unless it were to have a TV or movie synch that created a groundswell of demand (as happened with Kate Bush's "Running Up That Hill" when it was used heavily in Stranger Things).
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